Babe Ruth Signed Baseball Drew Max Video

[thetruthisoutthere]

Check this out:

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/24690702/8-on-your-side-collector-questions-baseballs-authenticity

[joed25]

Good video. What a joke.

[thetruthisoutthere]

According to Marc Goldman, President AAU, "Drew Max has only been wrong twice."

That's freakin' hilarious!!!

[daves_resale_shop]

"wrong twice that I know of"

hysterical!

[dapro]

Drew Maxx is a joke that is why Pawn star used another guy now on the show.

[Big Dave]

AAU did the right thing and offered the guy what he paid for the ball, but the guy turned that down and demanded a ball worth 50,000. That is just plain stupid and he gets neither.

[RichardSimon]

The buyer of the ball is a Grade A idiot.
Spending $1450 on something he obviously knows nothing about and thinking he can then turn it into $50K and turning down a chance to get even on the dumb shit thing he did.
Hey idiot buyer, I got a deed to the George Washington Bridge, signed by George Washington and Chris Christie. Let's make a deal, you can surely make a profit on it.

[RichardSimon]

According to Marc Goldman, President AAU, "Drew Max has only been wrong twice."

That's freakin' hilarious!!!

Maybe he saw two things that were good and he said they were bad.

[HOFAUTOS]

Anyone notice how bad Goldman was shaking?

[thetruthisoutthere]

AAU did the right thing and offered the guy what he paid for the ball, but the guy turned that down and demanded a ball worth 50,000. That is just plain stupid and he gets neither.

Yep, he should have accepted the $1450.00.

[Maddog]

Anyone notice how bad Goldman was shaking?

Was just going to post the same thing:D

I enlarged the screen because I wanted to see when he was going to start sweating:D

[johnmh71]

Yep, he should have accepted the $1450.00.

Definitely. Time to cut your losses at that point and move on.

[roarfrom34]

isn't offering the guy the $1450 an admission of guilt?

[RichardSimon]

isn't offering the guy the $1450 an admission of guilt?

Yes to the above and turning it down is an admission of stupidity.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Yes to the above and turning it down is an admission of stupidity.

+1

[Fuddjcal]

The buyer of the ball is a Grade A idiot.
Spending $1450 on something he obviously knows nothing about and thinking he can then turn it into $50K and turning down a chance to get even on the dumb shit thing he did.
Hey idiot buyer, I got a deed to the George Washington Bridge, signed by George Washington and Chris Christie. Let's make a deal, you can surely make a profit on it.

and this is a great commentary on just HOW STUPID people are.

[Fuddjcal]

According to Marc Goldman, President AAU, "Drew Max has only been wrong twice."

That's freakin' hilarious!!!

It is amazing how this Oscar Goldman guy can sit up there albeit shaking like a leaf on a tree and tell BOLD faced lies. What a jerk-off...

and they offered to give the dummy his money back :eek:and he refuses....Idiots do attract that's for darn sure.

Auction ZIP...where you will never find an authentic autograph, ZIP!!!!!:D

[thetruthisoutthere]

It is amazing how this Oscar Goldman guy can sit up there albeit shaking like a leaf on a tree and tell BOLD faced lies. What a jerk-off...

and they offered to give the dummy his money back :eek:and he refuses....Idiots do attract that's for darn sure.

Auction ZIP...where you will never find an authentic autograph, ZIP!!!!!:D

+1

[RichardSimon]

It is amazing how this Oscar Goldman guy can sit up there albeit shaking like a leaf on a tree and tell BOLD faced lies. What a jerk-off...

and they offered to give the dummy his money back :eek:and he refuses....Idiots do attract that's for darn sure.

Auction ZIP...where you will never find an authentic autograph, ZIP!!!!!:D

I just wish that Chuck would not hedge his opinions so much. You never know where he really stands :D;).

[yanks12025]

It is amazing how this Oscar Goldman guy can sit up there albeit shaking like a leaf on a tree and tell BOLD faced lies. What a jerk-off...

and they offered to give the dummy his money back :eek:and he refuses....Idiots do attract that's for darn sure.

Auction ZIP...where you will never find an authentic autograph, ZIP!!!!!:D

I disagree that there's never a authentic autograph. You must have never looked then!

[thetruthisoutthere]

I disagree that there's never a authentic autograph. You must have never looked then!

Good point, Brock.

Is a true autograph collector going to submit their authentic autographs to Drew Max for authentication?

I think not.

[yanks12025]

Good point, Brock.

Is a true autograph collector going to submit their authentic autographs to Drew Max for authentication?

I think not.

What does Drew max have to so with auction zip. Not every autograph on there is cert from Drew max.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Demanded $50,000 ball. What a joke.

[thetruthisoutthere]

What does Drew max have to so with auction zip. Not every autograph on there is cert from Drew max.

I'm not sure what you are asking, Brock?

[perezfan]

Here's another Drew Max beauty, currently on ebay. Amazing how those three Legends signed in a perfect horizontal line across the barrel of the bat.

Nope... no tip off there :rolleyes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Baseball-Bat-Signed-by-Babe-Ruth-Ty-Cobb-Honus-Wagner-/161227001968?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2589e0d070#ht_644wt_1161

[yanks12025]

Chris,
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm referring to fudd sayings there's never a real autograph on auctionzip. Then you rely back to me about Drew max.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Chris,
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm referring to fudd sayings there's never a real autograph on auctionzip. Then you rely back to me about Drew max.

My apologies. I read it wrong.

[RichardSimon]

Here's another Drew Max beauty, currently on ebay. Amazing how those three Legends signed in a perfect horizontal line across the barrel of the bat.

Nope... no tip off there :rolleyes:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Baseball-Bat-Signed-by-Babe-Ruth-Ty-Cobb-Honus-Wagner-/161227001968?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2589e0d070#ht_644wt_1161

Whoa man,,, that is a beauty.
Definitely worthy of a major auction,, ZIP maybe ?? :D.

[Fuddjcal]

Chris,
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm referring to fudd sayings there's never a real autograph on auctionzip. Then you rely back to me about Drew max.

no Brock, I've seen plenty there...all I need to see. The platform is so embedded with forgeries it is pathetic. If you want to try to find the needle in the haystack there, be my guest. Personally, I wouldn't by a THING from that site that PROMOTES and perpetuates the sale of forgeries....You go right ahead, though. I could care less. That's why it's America and we have our opinions. I'm not wasting my time going through thousands of OBVIOUS FORGERIES from ESTATE SALES..on Auction ZIP, where NOTHING is real....ZIP!

[daves_resale_shop]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AUTO-REACH-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-HARRIDGE-BASEBALL-W-AAU-CERT-/310872891734?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item486177e156

:):)

[Fuddjcal]

Whoa man,,, that is a beauty.
Definitely worthy of a major auction,, ZIP maybe ?? :D.

maybe that's 1 of 2 Oscar Goldman says that Drew got wrong?

[RichardSimon]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AUTO-REACH-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-HARRIDGE-BASEBALL-W-AAU-CERT-/310872891734?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item486177e156

:):)

Fan, damn, tastic piece,,, can hardly wait to buy it :D.
And it has many actual bids,,wtf :confused::confused::confused::eek:

[yanks12025]

no Brock, I've seen plenty there...all I need to see. The platform is so embedded with forgeries it is pathetic. If you want to try to find the needle in the haystack there, be my guest. Personally, I wouldn't by a THING from that site that PROMOTES and perpetuates the sale of forgeries....You go right ahead, though. I could care less. That's why it's America and we have our opinions. I'm not wasting my time going through thousands of OBVIOUS FORGERIES from ESTATE SALES..on Auction ZIP, where NOTHING is real....ZIP!


Again you obviously don't know! I just went on and found MANY items that are real. So how can you say there's NOTHING REAL. And the site is a place for LOCAL Auctions to post their items of upcoming auctions, so most of it is not from estate sales. It's not their job to police every single small auction house in America.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Love your rants and venting, Fudd.

[Mr. Zipper]

Was just going to post the same thing:D

I enlarged the screen because I wanted to see when he was going to start sweating:D

Reminds me of the old 60 minutes interviews when Mike Wallace was sitting with some shady executive or politician and they were sweating bullets. :D

When confronted with the age of the ball making it impossible for Ruth to sign it, Goldman stuck to his guns.

"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"

:rolleyes:

[GrayGhost]

Thanks Chris. Im also glad Pawn Stars uses Steve Grad now. they musta figured out this WPOS Max is garbage.

[johnmh71]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AUTO-REACH-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-HARRIDGE-BASEBALL-W-AAU-CERT-/310872891734?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item486177e156

:):)

OMG....it looks like somebody used a stamp.

[daves_resale_shop]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BABE-RUTH-AUTO-REACH-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-HARRIDGE-BASEBALL-W-AAU-CERT-/310872891734?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item486177e156

:):)

WOW! this piece of junk is over $3200 & counting!!! this one may make CNN!

In all seriousness, can somebody out this crap with ebay???

[slidekellyslide]

Reminds me of the old 60 minutes interviews when Mike Wallace was sitting with some shady executive or politician and they were sweating bullets. :D

When confronted with the age of the ball making it impossible for Ruth to sign it, Goldman stuck to his guns.

"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?"

:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2o8ywKqos

[RichardSimon]

WOW! this piece of junk is over $3200 & counting!!! this one may make CNN!

In all seriousness, can somebody out this crap with ebay???

The seller has a very large feedback number.
I believe those types of sellers have their own ebay reps and attempts to remove their items get sabotaged.
The ball sold for $4K,, damn.

[khw]

i am kinda speechless , i just turned in 2 minutes ago, at one time i could get a item pulled within 1 hour, and rich no top sellers dont have reps anymore at least i dont they cut back, ebay has cut back on all the stuff , i find it hard to believe one of you guys or many of folks didnt report this , lets see if my email got it pulled , if it doesnt i wont send in another item just a joke

[khw]

ok well at least they pulled it after i turned in but it is hard to imagine that could make it through a whole auction and enough time for someone to pay

[JollyElm]

Quote:
Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere
According to Marc Goldman, President AAU, "Drew Max has only been wrong twice."

That's freakin' hilarious!!!
Maybe he saw two things that were good and he said they were bad.

How has no one commented on this reply???!!! That is some funny sh_t!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha!!!!!!!!!!!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Thank goodness Ebay voided the below auction.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/ebay-seller-kooluof-babe-ruth-autographed-baseball-forgery-coa-dr

[thetruthisoutthere]

Wow, this story gets even better.

The buyer of that Babe Ruth forgery, now has it listed on Ebay with full disclosure.

Ebay seller 410fiveofus writes "If anyone is looking for a beautiful Babe Ruth ball with a real COA for your baseball collection ONLY, this may be it."

He purchased it for $1450.00. Now he's looking to make a profit on his newly-purchased forgery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Autographed-Babe-Ruth-Baseball-with-COA-/291092809332?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276


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[Big Dave]

Honesty has to count for something, and there is always CC.

[thetruthisoutthere]

The seller's location is Maryland.

I'm wondering if the seller is listing it for Jim Clemmons.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Ebay has removed that listing.

[earlywynnfan]

So in the end, the collector has the same scruples as the authenticator. A match made in heaven!

Ken

[RichardSimon]

I BID $50,000 ;);):D:D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:

[David Atkatz]

So in the end, the collector has the same scruples as the authenticator. A match made in heaven!

KenNot true, Ken. He was honest. Not only did he say that JSA and PSA rejected it, he went further by stating that in his own opinion it was a forgery.
He shouldn't have been selling it, but, hey, one can't describe that ball more honestly than he did.

[thetruthisoutthere]

So in the end, the collector has the same scruples as the authenticator. A match made in heaven!

Ken

Jim Clemmons was offered $1450.00 by AAU and rejected it because he got greedy thinking he could "cash in" on his own stupidity.

Then him (or someone else) lists that crap on Ebay (with full disclosure) so he can try to recoup his $1450.00.

I hope Mr. Clemmons enjoys his $1450.00 sandwich, plus his $200 snack (JSA fee).

[johnmh71]

Not true, Ken. He was honest. Not only did he say that JSA and PSA rejected it, he went further by stating that in his own opinion it was a forgery.
He shouldn't have been selling it, but, hey, one can't describe that ball more honestly than he did.

Are you being serious? There is never a good excuse for selling a fake.

[Big Dave]

People sell fakes all the time.

Secretarial, autopen, traced over, batboy, etc.

As long as it is disclosed, I don't have a problem with it.

[David Atkatz]

Are you being serious? There is never a good excuse for selling a fake.Yes, I'm serious. I didn't try to justify his selling it. What I did was express my--strong--disagreement with the contention that the seller is as sleazy as the--knowingly lying--authenticator.

[johnmh71]

What if the buyer wants to flip it and doesn't provide the same information?

[Mr. Zipper]

What if the buyer wants to flip it and doesn't provide the same information?

Of course that is the customer the seller is hoping for. Why would anyone pay thousands of dollars for a fake unless he thought he could flip it as real and make a profit?

If it was $100 and sold as a replica, one could make the argument it is a legit sale. But thousands?

[RichardSimon]

I was just offered this ball in an e mail apparently from the guy who bought it in the auction.
We have had an interesting e mail exchange :D.

[earlywynnfan]

You mean somebody bought it off ebay??

[ruth-gehrig]

I was just offered this ball in an e mail apparently from the guy who bought it in the auction.
We have had an interesting e mail exchange :D.

I'm sure he was looking for a nice profit right??:D

[RichardSimon]

You mean somebody bought it off ebay??

The first original buyer contacted me, the one from the original news story. The guy who thought it was a $50K ball

[RichardSimon]

I'm sure he was looking for a nice profit right??:D

He did not quote me a price and I rejected the ball immediately and told him what I thought of the ball and of him.
In his e mail subject line to me were the words: "Would you be interested in buying this Babe Ruth ball"
One of the funny lines in his following e mails said: "I thought maybe you could help but was I wrong."
He never asked for my help, all he did was try to sell the ball to me and claim that the interview did not tell his story completely.
I do not, for the life of me, know why he thought I could help or why I would even help him in this instance.
btw - He did mock us all here on 54 when I told him that people are mocking him on an internet forum.

[Mr. Zipper]

He should have taken the money AAU offered him and run. Lesson learned with no monetary loss.

But apparently he is bent on flipping a fake for a profit. The greed and/or stupidity of some people is beyond belief.

[RichardSimon]

There is an auction company in PA,,, two word name, one of the words is an insect,,, I am sure they would be happy to have it :rolleyes:.

[Michael B]

There is an auction company in PA,,, two word name, one of the words is an insect,,, I am sure they would be happy to have it :rolleyes:.

Ant Auctions?

Silverfish Sales?

Centipede Consignments?

Dragonfly Deals?

[RichardSimon]

Dragonfly Droppings

FLee Farts

[holyWahoos]

Man, I've been watching Pawn Stars for a long time and was not aware of this Drew Max character or the "Al" screw up from the other guy. Glad I joined these forums, you guys have already blown my mind! ha

[Fuddjcal]

Man, I've been watching Pawn Stars for a long time and was not aware of this Drew Max character or the "Al" screw up from the other guy. Glad I joined these forums, you guys have already blown my mind! ha

The funny thing is...even though Drew blew it a couple times on the show, he actually got more right than he gets right on a daily basis. :)which is close to zero. I think it was John R who blew it in his "one hit wonder" replacement for Drew?:p

Now it's Steve Grad who is their go to guy as you probably know

[callou2131]

On Craigslist near me now. http://annapolis.craigslist.org/clt/4346155677.html

Up,for sale.
Babe Ruth Authenticated baseball with COA from Pawn Stars famed Drew Max. The ball,is beautiful but I will state JSA believes it is not authentic.
I am selling the ball only with the fact that it comes with AAU backing and I will not offer any refunds so the buyer takes the risk. Anyone wanting a nice ball complete with a valid COA for their collection may be quite interested in this ball. Do not buy this ball with the expectation of re-selling for a profit as you probably would be disappointed. I know I was after what JSA said.
$5000 or,best offer.
I will only meet in a public place and will only take cash or a cashiers check.. No,personal checks.

[callou2131]

Just noticed he has a bunch of listings on craigslist ranging from $2500 to $5000. Most he stated that JSA found it fake. In this one however, He fails to mention that and is pairing it with a JSA Mantle ball to make it look legit.
http://baltimore.craigslist.org/clt/4365751240.html

Babe Ruth has COA from AAU for $2500
Mickey Mantle has COA from JSA for $500
Buy both for $2750
Will meet in public location only .

[thetruthisoutthere]

On Craigslist near me now. http://annapolis.craigslist.org/clt/4346155677.html

Up,for sale.
Babe Ruth Authenticated baseball with COA from Pawn Stars famed Drew Max. The ball,is beautiful but I will state JSA believes it is not authentic.
I am selling the ball only with the fact that it comes with AAU backing and I will not offer any refunds so the buyer takes the risk. Anyone wanting a nice ball complete with a valid COA for their collection may be quite interested in this ball. Do not buy this ball with the expectation of re-selling for a profit as you probably would be disappointed. I know I was after what JSA said.
$5000 or,best offer.
I will only meet in a public place and will only take cash or a cashiers check.. No,personal checks.

Nice find!!!!

[thetruthisoutthere]

There is an auction company in PA,,, two word name, one of the words is an insect,,, I am sure they would be happy to have it :rolleyes:.

There's a good chance, that will be Jim's (Clemmons) next stop.

[Big Dave]

If he consigns that ball to CC, he would probably get his money back and maybe some profit. Some bidder that doesn't know it's history will buy it.

[RichardSimon]

Aside from being stupid Jim is certainly a quality honest guy. :eek::eek:

[Fuddjcal]

Aside from being stupid Jim is certainly a quality honest guy. :eek::eek:

and there's nothing wrong with that in the long run. People are just very stupid in general. I do give Jim the honesty points despite being a confirmed legal moron.