View Full Version : why no bids on cobb ball?
lug-nut
02-11-2014, 10:23 PM
sorry if i'm calling this listing out but does this look strange to anyone? why wouldn't the seller have it authenticated? i've been looking for a ty cobb ball for awhile now and this looks pretty nice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-TY-COBB-SIGNED-BASEBALL-Dated-7-4-48-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-BALL-/310869269110?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item4861409a76
sorry if i'm calling this listing out but does this look strange to anyone? why wouldn't the seller have it authenticated? i've been looking for a ty cobb ball for awhile now and this looks pretty nice.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-TY-COBB-SIGNED-BASEBALL-Dated-7-4-48-OFFICIAL-AMERICAN-LEAGUE-BALL-/310869269110?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item4861409a76
I think the lack of authentication is a big minus. Few collectors want to pay thousands for an item that doesn't have a COA/LOA. As a layperson/collector who has looked at a lot of Cobb autos, it doesn't look bad. Again, I have absolutely no training or authentication experience so mine is purely a guess.....What does a ball like that with a COA go for? Is that already top price? Does it matter it was 20 yrs after his playing days?
perezfan
02-12-2014, 10:20 AM
There's still plenty of room price-wise (for a Cobb Ball that nice). I would bet there are more than a few people doing PSA "Quick Opinions" on this one as we speak.
With over 5 days still left, I don't think the lack of current bids means a whole lot. Anyone serious about winning it would have a snipe in place. It will be interesting to watch this one, as it looks pretty good (LOA or not).
thxforthebp
02-12-2014, 01:12 PM
It looks to me like one of the printed on signatures that have been discussed in the same vain as the Ruths, and Gehrigs that were being printed on created balls. I dont like the ink it looks to uniform and not right at all to me.
lug-nut
02-12-2014, 07:55 PM
I see what you are saying JD, after reviewing it, it looks like its a combination of a three different signatures. I've never believed that a signature is exactly the same every time. However, I've been burned before and I what I don't like is the statement "The winning bidder will have 7 days to examine the ball and a full refund will be given if not satisfied" Well, the only thing I can do is contact PSA and see if they'll do a walk-through within those 7 days.
Or, would ebay's money back guarantee come into play?
thecatspajamas
02-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Or, would ebay's money back guarantee come into play?
Not to embolden anyone looking to take a chance, but eBay's money back guarantee ALWAYS trumps, regardless of what the seller states in their description.
perezfan
02-12-2014, 11:42 PM
Hmmmm... another head scratcher- he also has this listed....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-CY-YOUNG-SIGNED-BASEBALL-Spalding-Ball-HALL-OF-FAME-Greatest-Pitcher-/390766159271?pt=US_Autographs&hash=item5afb7a65a7#ht_89wt_1215
Sure wish he would divulge in the listing, how he came into two such pristine balls (signed by mega hall-of-famers, no less) :confused:
GrayGhost
02-13-2014, 04:42 AM
looks brand new. come on.
thetruthisoutthere
02-13-2014, 08:47 AM
That's because both the Cobb and Cy Young are forgeries.
GrayGhost
02-13-2014, 09:07 AM
That's because both the Cobb and Cy Young are forgeries.
:):)
thetruthisoutthere
02-13-2014, 09:13 AM
I would guarantee, that if the bidding started at .99, there would be bidding on both of those (Ty Cobb and Cy Young) forgeries.
khkco4bls
02-13-2014, 09:13 AM
Im sure the mathewson ball is coming up next.
ooo-ribay
02-13-2014, 09:46 AM
you guys are brutal! :p
lug-nut
02-13-2014, 07:06 PM
ok, so besides the ball not being graded what is giving you that vibe? what am i missing?
thetruthisoutthere
02-13-2014, 07:14 PM
ok, so besides the ball not being graded what is giving you that vibe? what am i missing?
What exactly are you asking?
RichardSimon
02-13-2014, 07:14 PM
Somebody must have pointed the seller to Net54. The baseballs are gone.
They are forgeries, Chris is right. They are better then run of the mill crap though.
But what I find fascinating is that the seller has 9000++ feedback and no other autographs in a lengthy selling list.
It does not appear he ever sold autographs.
It is possible he might be a victim in this and when alerted to the problems with these items, he pulled them.
lug-nut
02-13-2014, 08:27 PM
well it doesnt matter anymore...thanks for the input!
Runscott
02-14-2014, 10:56 AM
Somebody must have pointed the seller to Net54. The baseballs are gone.
They are forgeries, Chris is right. They are better then run of the mill crap though.
But what I find fascinating is that the seller has 9000++ feedback and no other autographs in a lengthy selling list.
It does not appear he ever sold autographs.
It is possible he might be a victim in this and when alerted to the problems with these items, he pulled them.
I love autographed items, but as a seller I don't see any up-side to selling autographs on ebay, unless you are someone who is well-respected in the industry;e.g-yourself, Richard.
sycks22
02-14-2014, 02:46 PM
We're not factoring in that Young was the master of ceremonies at some fictional location.