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eberget
02-11-2014, 09:05 AM
Looking for insight and expertise.

http://carpeseason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/wagner.jpg
http://carpeseason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/wagner-back.jpg

A friend of the family bought a box of old baseball cards/memorabilia at an estate sale for $500 last year and has several potential gems--including this Wagner. I've been skeptical until I saw them in person. They look very real to me, but I am no expert--I have never even held a pre-war baseball card before. I am trying to convince him to get these officially graded/authenticated. Based on what all is in the box, it definitely does seem to fall in the "to good to be true" category. But I thought it would be helpful to get some initial feedback from some folks with experience.

Any thoughts/advice?

Thanks!
ullmandds
02-11-2014, 09:11 AM
Looks fake to me.
4815162342
02-11-2014, 09:16 AM
Looks like a copy of this one to me:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2010/167.html
ullmandds
02-11-2014, 09:19 AM
the print quality is just..."poor." the detail is not very "detailed." Old cards look much "better" than that!
e107collector
02-11-2014, 09:19 AM
Looks like a copy of this one to me:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2010/167.html

Daryl,

You beat me to it. The card in the REA auction is mine. You can see a picture of it in a SGC Auth holder under my profile.

The image is too grainy & washed out. First fake E-125 I've seen so far.

Tony
eberget
02-11-2014, 09:40 AM
Fascinating.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I read somewhere about solid ink vs modern printing....So you would suspect with magnification to see printer dots on copies like this?

(Unfortunately, I didn't have any magnifying glass at my house when he brought a few of the cards over this past weekend).
Vintagecatcher
02-11-2014, 10:06 AM
Clearly a fake for many reasons...which was dipped in tea in an attempt to create an aged appearance on the back...Created to deceive no doubt.


Patrick
Runscott
02-11-2014, 10:19 AM
It's really amazing how many estates leave boxes of fake cards that were recently created. So many crooks dying and trying to pass off fake cards to their heirs. It's sad.

Was this an estate in Kentucky or Ohio? Perhaps held in a trailer or low-rent apartment complex?
4815162342
02-11-2014, 10:26 AM
You have to give credit to the crook who cut it out. Mastro could have used his help a few decades ago.
eberget
02-11-2014, 10:37 AM
All I know is that it was an estate sale in Arizona. Had a lot of WWI memorabilia.

He showed the cards to a local dealer who said he knew some of the cards were real (including a Jackie Robinson and Mantle that the dealer bought for $600) but he thought some were fake.
I Only Smoke 4 the Cards
02-11-2014, 10:40 AM
All I know is that it was an estate sale in Arizona. Had a lot of WWI memorabilia.

He showed the cards to a local dealer who said he knew some of the cards were real (including a Jackie Robinson and Mantle that the dealer bought for $600) but he thought some were fake.

That sucks. If the cards he sold were real then he probably should have gotten more.
rjackson44
02-11-2014, 10:42 AM
You can buy them on ebay 12 bucks thats were i got mine ,,there pretty to matt or frame ,not real ,,