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Jason19th
01-22-2014, 06:53 PM
I recently picked up this Jose Mendez photo. It is clearly not type 1 but I am trying to figure out where it came from. Unlike most negro league photos we see listed on ebay I cannot find this image anywhere. Has anyone seen this before? Also thoughts about whether the player in the back ground is Cristobal Torriente ?

jerseygary
01-22-2014, 07:37 PM
Don't know where it is from or when, except probably Cuba, but before I even read your description I said to myself "that looks like Torriente", especially since I just did a drawing of him (http://infinitecardset.blogspot.com/2014/01/167-cristobal-torriente-if-not-for-his.html) recently. I'll look through some Cuban books I have to see if I can find a match to the uniform, but it's pretty non-descript in the photo.

bcbgcbrcb
01-22-2014, 11:06 PM
I saw it on e-bay too, never seen that image before. I don't think that Torriente is pictured though and I'm not 100% convinced that it is Mendez either.

jerseygary
01-23-2014, 06:33 AM
It looks like there is a patch on the sleeve of the guy cropped off on the left, but I can't make it out. If that is Torriente (and I'm not saying it is) it would probably have to have been taken before 1933.

packs
01-23-2014, 07:12 AM
Mendez died in 1928 at the age of 41. I was watching that photo too but I thought the player looked to be older than 41.

mannybb24
01-23-2014, 03:30 PM
I don't have much to offer on this photo other than I had the opportunity to buy the original from a Cuban collector friend about a year ago but I passed. I believe he still has it in his possession.

The player in the photo is Mendez, not Torriente.

Steve

Jason19th
01-23-2014, 03:39 PM
Thanks for the input

Steve do you know if the original was a press photo or any insight as to where prints may have come from


Jason

mannybb24
01-23-2014, 04:03 PM
I don't think it was a press photo Jason but I could be wrong as I really don't remember. I will rummage through my old emails to see if I can find the scan and info, I'll let you know if I find something.

No clue on where the prints came either but a good guess would be from somewhere in Cuba.:D

Steve

mannybb24
01-23-2014, 04:23 PM
Since we're throwing out wild guesses on the guy in the background, I see it being Bullet Rogan more than Torriente.
Maybe just wishful thinking on my part but they did play together for several years in the 20's so it's a possibility.

It's probably no one of significance anyways but it's still fun to play the guessing game.

Steve

mannybb24
01-23-2014, 04:32 PM
Scrap that last thought, Bullet Joe only played 1 year in Cuba and it was earlier than when this photo was taken.

This is why I hate playing the guessing game, I'm usually wrong:(

Steve

mannybb24
01-23-2014, 04:36 PM
The original of this photo is from the Bohemia magazine archives.

Steve

Jason19th
01-23-2014, 05:15 PM
Thanks Steve

the Bohemia magazine makes sense because the back has a grid stamped on it of the type I often see on press photo's and my photo could easily be a print made by the magazine some time in the 50's