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EvilKing00
01-22-2014, 11:13 AM
So, Im tired of seeing the "what's your monster number" threads,
LMAO sry guys. ( im just joking )

Id love to see what some of you have as far as the T205, GOLD Border set.

Its the 1st and only set I have ever tried to attain, I began about a year ago and would love to see how far along or if some of you have the complete set.

I just did a full inventory of what I have, as I did loose count, But here's what I have so far:

73 cards Total

All the Minor Leaguers
10 HOF
6 Short Prints
a few printing errors

Backs:

Piedmont Blue 25 – 18
Polar Bear – 14
Sweet Caporal Red – 5
Sweet Caporal Black 26 –5
Sweet Caporal Black 42 – 4
Hassan Green – 649 – 12
Honest Long Cut – 1
Sovereign - 2
Cycle – 1
Hassan green 30 – 4
Peidmont Blue 42 – 4
American Beauty Black –
American Beauty Green – 2
Broadleaf Black –
Broadleaf Green – 1
Hindu –
Drum –
Blank -

Below are a few of my Favorites!


HOF
http://n.b5z.net/zirw/1390413944299/i/u/6141290/i/hof.jpg


ML
http://n.b5z.net/zirw/1390414112334/i/u/6141290/i/ML.jpg


Errors - Hard to tell with the bad scan, but the one in the center has 4 eyes! :eek:
http://n.b5z.net/zirw/1390414345338/i/u/6141290/i/errrrrrrrrr.jpg

http://n.b5z.net/i/u/6141290/i/4eyes.jpg

Runscott
01-22-2014, 11:24 AM
LMAO sry guys.



Okay, Evil, my interpretation guess is:

Laugh My Ass Off sorry give us your skittles

EvilKing00
01-22-2014, 11:28 AM
Okay, Evil, my interpretation guess is:

Laugh My Ass Off sorry give us your skittles

hehe - well I figured insulting 80% of the board saying im tired of the "whats your monster number", I figured Id have to apologize up front and get in a bit of a laugh.

Mark2391
01-22-2014, 12:08 PM
I started this set a little over a year ago as well. Working on a low grade set...1's, 2's, 3's. The T205's have always appealed to me more than the T206's for some reason. Plus it's a fun and relatively affordable prewar set to work on.

Thus far I have 48 cards:

6 HOFers (best would be Johnson)
10 SP's

One cycle back for sure, not sure on the breakdown of others off hand.

tschock
01-22-2014, 12:11 PM
Steve,

From all us T205 lovers, GREAT THREAD! ;)

103 bars of lovely gold. Not sure of the breakdown, but your post is a good prompt for me to figure it out. Thanks!

Taylor

Big Six
01-22-2014, 12:32 PM
Hey Steve...I, too, am a big fan of the T205's and started working on this set in the past year or two. So far I have 30 cards in either VG or VG/EX...most are SGC slabbed (the Gold borders look fantastic against the black background) though I grab PSA examples when they are priced right.

The break down is as follows:

Hall of Famers: 8 (Brown, Clarke, Jennings, Marquard, Mathewson, Speaker, Wallace & Wheat)

Backs:

Piedmont Blue 25 – 10
Polar Bear – 4
Sweet Caporal Red –
Sweet Caporal Black 26 –
Sweet Caporal Black 42 – 6
Hassan Green 649 – 3
Honest Long Cut – 4
Sovereign - 1
Cycle - 1
Hassan Green 30 –
Peidmont Blue 42 –
American Beauty Black –
American Beauty Green – 1
Broadleaf Black –
Broadleaf Green –
Hindu –
Drum –
Blank -

And my favorites:

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/1911-t205/9076/clarke-piedmont-25http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/1911-t205/2642/mathewson-piedmont
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/1911-t205/2250/mcelveen-sweet-caporalhttp://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/1911-t205/3296/wheat-piedmont

The McElveen is a particular favorite because this was the first vintage card I ever owned. I remember having this card back in the mid-1980s but somehow it got lost along the way...I picked up a new one a couple years ago and that got me started on the set.

EvilKing00
01-22-2014, 12:40 PM
T@yl0r, Mark and anyone else who's interested.

I see you guys said your not sure of the backs u have. I know its hard to keep track, I have a pretty cool chart that I created, with each card, back info, grade, etc.

I can send you guys a blank one if you like to fill in with what you have its a great way to keep track.

If anyone wants one just email me, with T205 Chart in the subject line.

EvilKing00@yahoo.com

nebboy
01-22-2014, 01:28 PM
My number is 87 total
8 - Minor Leaguers
20 - HOF
12 - Short Prints
9 - versions

I also do not worry much about backs so I don't know the breakdown, except for that have at least 1 each of the more common backs and that 18/87 are Piedmont 42s which I do pick up from time to time.

Ronnie73
01-22-2014, 01:59 PM
It's nice to see everyone's progress on this set. I currently have around 120 different front/back combos with most being American Beauty, Piedmont 42, and some Sovereign's. A near complete collection of all front/back scans is almost done and will be uploaded to the t205resource.com website very soon. Keep checking the home page for all website updates made.

peterb69
01-22-2014, 02:31 PM
Every card, every back (including blank), and every card error except Collins with yellow elephant (never saw) and I don't have the Holy Grail Hobi no stats.

My favorite set.

EvilKing00
01-22-2014, 02:42 PM
every card, every back (including blank), and every card error except collins with yellow elephant (never saw) and i don't have the holy grail hobi no stats.

My favorite set.

nice!

itjclarke
01-22-2014, 02:47 PM
25 total, 23 HOFers (21 different HOFers)

Piedmont Blue 25 – 8
Polar Bear – 5
Sweet Caporal Red – 1
Sweet Caporal Black 26 – 1
Sweet Caporal Black 42 –
Hassan Green 649 – 1
Honest Long Cut – 1
Sovereign - 2
Cycle -
Hassan Green 30 – 1
Peidmont Blue 42 – 4
American Beauty Black – 1
American Beauty Green –
Broadleaf Black –
Broadleaf Green –
Hindu –
Drum –
Blank -

Ronnie73
01-22-2014, 03:01 PM
Every card, every back (including blank), and every card error except Collins with yellow elephant (never saw) and I don't have the Holy Grail Hobi no stats.

My favorite set.

This is not my card but here's what one looks like.
http://www.t205resource.com/galleries/errors/eddiecollinsyellowelephant.jpg

bbcard1
01-22-2014, 03:04 PM
I finished up a T205 set, of sorts, a couple years ago…my first vintage set. It is rough rough. Many of the cards are skins, but I have a full set of every different front which pleased me and dressed them up in such a way that they display nicely. I did a little website devoted to the subject at the time…you might also want to check out the "update set."

http://www.bbcard1.com/205/

Clydewally
01-22-2014, 03:14 PM
I have all of the Hall of Famers except the Wallace, no cap, two lines and the Walsh. I guess, after seeing this thread I have to add the Collins yellow elephant. I did not even know it existed.
I had never paid any attention to the backs before this thread but of the 28 cards I have (two are doubles), it is four Polar Bear, one Honest Long Cut, two Sovereign, four Hassan, one Sweet Caporal and the rest Piedmont.

Harford20
01-22-2014, 03:15 PM
Total of 46 T205 cards, all are HOFer's (have 25 of the 29-see below)

Chance--9 different backs (complete run)
Mathewson--5 different backs
Brown--5 different backs
Collins (Mouth Open)--4 different backs
J.Collins and Duffy both with 2 different backs

Missing HOF Cobb, Young, Johnson and Wallace 1-Line

Backs--No Hindu, No Drum (Leon would love that Brown Drum), No AB Black (also would like the Brown here), No Broadleaf (if there are any HOF that exist), no blank

Clydewally
01-22-2014, 03:26 PM
I have some idea what the scarce backs for T-206 are. Is there a thread of what the scarce T-205 backs are?

EvilKing00
01-22-2014, 03:36 PM
I have some idea what the scarce backs for T-206 are. Is there a thread of what the scarce T-205 backs are?

Here is a thread on back info - http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=157949

Clydewally
01-22-2014, 03:42 PM
Thanks Steve.

wonkaticket
01-22-2014, 03:58 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/net54shared/large/ZKB_Gold.jpg

Just enough don't have too much space in the garage.

dabigyankeeman
01-22-2014, 04:17 PM
I have the Yankee team set, which includes the 3 Hal Chase front variations.

I dont worry about whats on the back.

peterb69
01-22-2014, 04:27 PM
This is not my card but here's what one looks like.
http://www.t205resource.com/galleries/errors/eddiecollinsyellowelephant.jpg

Thanks Ron. Yep, it's yellow

Wite3
01-22-2014, 05:05 PM
I finished my first set about 6 or 7 years ago. It includes all cards and variations EXCEPT a Hoblitzell no stats. It is p-f-g range

I finished my second set, not as complete but a complete set of fronts a few years ago. This set is in the g-vg- range.

I own an example of every back type incl. blank.

I have a large Phillies collection of t205s as well.

I also have a 6 inch binder full of t205s. At last count (last year), it was sitting around 1500 cards incl. examples of single prints, HOFers, and rarer backs. It is probably approaching 1700. It is wonderfully satisfying and it looks very cool when you finish a t-card page in a binder with all the same card!

Yes, I am a hoarder of these cards. Unfortunately, my life got in the way and I have had to curtail my buying for the last few months.

Joshua

albrshbr
01-22-2014, 05:41 PM
It's always tough posting after Joshua, but I'm about 90 different cards in or so, with a few duplicates. Most duplicates are SP's (2 Joss, 2 Walsh, 2 Collins open mouth) or because I ran across a tougher back (3 Hal Chase w/Hassan 30, Cycle, and American Beauty). Grades are all over the place from poor to SGC 60. Here's a quick back breakdown (I don't have all catalogued by back yet)

Piedmont 25 – 21
Polar Bear – 8
Sweet Caporal - 5
Hassan 649 – 8
Honest Long Cut – 10
Sovereign - 12
Cycle – 10
Hassan 30 – 10
Piedmont 42 – 6
American Beauty – 7

bnorth
01-22-2014, 06:08 PM
I got this pinky ring is that enough gold?:rolleyes:

On a serious note I have been thinking about starting the T205 cards. Since joining this forum and discovering the beauty of the pre war cards I started the T210 & T206 sets. I still really like the T210's but the T206's are just too plain looking for me.

So if anyone has any low grade T205 beaters that are not trimmed past the borders I have close to 40 T206's for trade bait.

tonyo
01-22-2014, 06:12 PM
Looks like I have 39.
27 hofers
14 nygiant non-hofers.

The t205 Merkle was the first pre-war card I purchased back when I started collecting again in aught-9

I don't track the backs either.

marcdelpercio
01-22-2014, 06:19 PM
Definitely one of my favorite sets. I completed it about two years ago and have been upgrading a few since then. There is so much mystery and so many new discoveries to be made about this set...even moreso than the T206s, I believe. I think that several of the most beautiful tobacco cards ever made are found in this set. Here are a few of my favorites.

ChiSoxFan
01-22-2014, 08:00 PM
I just started collecting "gold" last year and this is what I have,

10 cards Total

0 Minor Leaguers
0 HOF
0 Short Prints
0 printing errors

Backs:

Piedmont Blue 25 – 0
Polar Bear – 0
Sweet Caporal Red – 0
Sweet Caporal Black 26 – 0
Sweet Caporal Black 42 – 0
Hassan Green – 649 – 0
Honest Long Cut – 9
Sovereign - 0
Cycle – 1
Hassan green 30 – 0
Peidmont Blue 42 – 0
American Beauty Black – 0
American Beauty Green – 0
Broadleaf Black – 0
Broadleaf Green – 0
Hindu – 0
Drum – 0
Blank - 0

I'm slowly working on a Honest Long cut back set and also a White Sox Master Set (the 1 Cycle back) where my budget allows for cards.


Thanks,
ChiSoxFan

matty39
01-22-2014, 08:10 PM
I completed my set about ten years ago. It is still hanging on my wall. I can't remember the backs, probably commons. The cards are mostly very goods.

Tim Fritz
01-22-2014, 08:48 PM
My gold count stands at 63 with 11 HOFs

sycks22
01-22-2014, 09:15 PM
Definitely one of my favorite sets. I completed it about two years ago and have been upgrading a few since then. There is so much mystery and so many new discoveries to be made about this set...even moreso than the T206s, I believe. I think that several of the most beautiful tobacco cards ever made are found in this set. Here are a few of my favorites.

Love the Hobliz no stats Marc.

Jantz
01-22-2014, 09:17 PM
Gold # - 1

itjclarke
01-22-2014, 09:20 PM
I completed my set about ten years ago. It is still hanging on my wall. I can't remember the backs, probably commons. The cards are mostly very goods.

Wow! Makes me wanna get a look at your other walls

Leon
01-23-2014, 09:34 AM
Only a little bit of gold over here....I have always said the T205s are some of the best looking cards in the hobby!!

EvilKing00
01-23-2014, 10:55 AM
I finished my first set about 6 or 7 years ago. It includes all cards and variations EXCEPT a Hoblitzell no stats. It is p-f-g range

I finished my second set, not as complete but a complete set of fronts a few years ago. This set is in the g-vg- range.

I own an example of every back type incl. blank.

I have a large Phillies collection of t205s as well.

I also have a 6 inch binder full of t205s. At last count (last year), it was sitting around 1500 cards incl. examples of single prints, HOFers, and rarer backs. It is probably approaching 1700. It is wonderfully satisfying and it looks very cool when you finish a t-card page in a binder with all the same card!

Yes, I am a hoarder of these cards. Unfortunately, my life got in the way and I have had to curtail my buying for the last few months.

Joshua

wow 1700 that's awesome josh, I can deff say that when I first joined net54, reading all your posts about the t205's is what got me started collecting them. Also the fact they were so damn good lookin! lol

ullmandds
01-23-2014, 11:16 AM
Josh...you're the t205 King!!!!! Me...I just sold my gold fund today...what a dog!!!!! As far as T205 Gold Borders...I think I have 4 of them...1 that I bought as a kid for $2...a Joss...and 2 minor leaguers.

Zach Wheat
01-23-2014, 11:23 AM
Okay, Evil, my interpretation guess is:

Laugh My Ass Off sorry give us your skittles

Funny Scott :).

Evil, I have about 38-40% of the set. I think it is a gorgeous set. I have a number of the gold/green border edge cards which I thought were kind of neat.

I will finish it one day.

Z Wheat

Ease
01-23-2014, 11:57 AM
I've got 38, 7 of them are Bergens. Great thread!

VoodooChild
01-23-2014, 12:14 PM
I'm slowly putting together a Pirates team set (seems pretty attainable since there is no Wagner). I only have 7 so far. I haven't really paid as much attention the the backs like I do for my T206 set. I only have Sweet Caps, Pieds, and Polar Bears included in my 7 so far. I also plan on picking up a few American and Minor League subjects so that I have all three designs represented in my collection.

peterb69
01-23-2014, 02:30 PM
Marc, the Hoblitzell 'No Stats'. Very nice indeed.

Josh, you are Mr. T205.

dog*dirt
01-23-2014, 02:33 PM
I am not sure what my current number is but I do enjoy picking a few up when I can. Thanks for starting the thread! Here are a few fairly recent pick ups.

EvilKing00
01-23-2014, 04:03 PM
Funny Scott :).

Evil, I have about 38-40% of the set. I think it is a gorgeous set. I have a number of the gold/green border edge cards which I thought were kind of neat.

I will finish it one day.

Z Wheat

hey Zack,

I have been looking for a green border, to add, I don't have any yet. Seems every time I find one its pretty beat up, and hard to tell if its gren or just really badly chipped, lol.

JasonL
01-24-2014, 06:13 PM
I have the Cubs team set, plus a couple of Zach Wheats and one McGraw...very cool set that I would love to start if I ever finish my Tobacco Cubbies team sets...

T205 GB
01-24-2014, 06:36 PM
I have close to 180 all being AB 70%, pied 42 15%, and the rest are miscut scrap, miscuts, ghost, pb white, Latham HLC back period before A with 2 showing an upside down W

ValKehl
01-24-2014, 06:47 PM
Hey Leon, your Hindu-WaJo would present itself much better if it were included in this WaJo lineup. So, how about putting yours in the upcoming B & L Auction? :D
Best,
Val

T205Guy
01-24-2014, 08:11 PM
I started building my set over twenty years ago with the intention of getting every card in Excellent condition or better. Turned out to be much harder than I figured at the time! At this point I have all but two(?) cards (Matty Cycle & Collins yellow) (I also need Walsh - pink - if more than one exists...) Breakdown is 60% excellent or better, 30% very good and 10% lesser. I also have every back as well as some oddities.
I'll never catch Joshua but I love the set and I have started several "back" subsets including American Beauty (60% complete), Cycle (50% complete) and Honest Long Cut (35% complete).
Thanks for the thread! I am always glad to hear how much other collectors enjoy this set...

Ed

Leon
01-24-2014, 08:14 PM
I started building my set over twenty years ago with the intention of getting every card in Excellent condition or better. Turned out to be much harder than I figured at the time! At this point I have all but two(?) cards (Matty Cycle & Collins yellow) (I also need Walsh - pink - if more than one exists...) Breakdown is 60% excellent or better, 30% very good and 10% lesser. I also have every back as well as some oddities.
I'll never catch Joshua but I love the set and I have started several "back" subsets including American Beauty (60% complete), Cycle (50% complete) and Honest Long Cut (35% complete).
Thanks for the thread! I am always glad to hear how much other collectors enjoy this set...

Ed

I thought Walsh pink is only a printing error?

and Val, my WOJO Hindu is staying put for now. :)

JasonL
01-25-2014, 06:14 AM
and do you find that you are more or less conditions sensitive with this set than your other pre-war interests?

I find myself much more interested in the Authentic or altered examples of these cards than I am with other sets. If I can find a really sharp looking altered T205, I am much more likely to buy and enjoy it than I am with similar conditioned cards from the other pre-war issues...

is that weird?

peterb69
01-25-2014, 08:09 AM
I started building my set over twenty years ago with the intention of getting every card in Excellent condition or better. Turned out to be much harder than I figured at the time! At this point I have all but two(?) cards (Matty Cycle & Collins yellow) (I also need Walsh - pink - if more than one exists...) Breakdown is 60% excellent or better, 30% very good and 10% lesser. I also have every back as well as some oddities.
I'll never catch Joshua but I love the set and I have started several "back" subsets including American Beauty (60% complete), Cycle (50% complete) and Honest Long Cut (35% complete).
Thanks for the thread! I am always glad to hear how much other collectors enjoy this set...

Ed

Ed, does this mean you have a Hobi "no stats"? I wonder how many are out there.

familytoad
01-25-2014, 10:38 AM
http://www.sgccardregistry.com/set.aspx?cat=1&set=794&userset=3598

I have about 300 maybe 320...
Mine is a complete basic set (plus all front variations) as I some times think I won't care about the back variations...then I get a couple and want to find a full master set:o

I have most of them slabbed at the link above here, and will likely continue with a raw set too. I probably have 100 dupes, but a few guys I have 3-4 of.
No debating about raw versus slabbed here...I will just build more sets:rolleyes:

This is my favorite set of all. I like all grades, high or low. I hope to see more posts here!

oldphil
01-25-2014, 11:06 AM
T205s are my favorites. Been collecting these for about 12-15 years and never really paid much attention to the backs though that may change. Tried to purchase higher end cards though this was not always feasible. Have about 120 cards with some dupes. Never really tried to complete the set but I may work on that in the future. Happy collecting! My goldies (and others) may be viewed at http://www.imageevent.com/puregold.

EvilKing00
01-25-2014, 11:07 AM
I just added a clark,( from a forum member) and an wolter AB black, a front & back a didnt have yet! Cant wait till they arrive!

T205Guy
01-26-2014, 07:21 PM
I thought Walsh pink is only a printing error?

and Val, my WOJO Hindu is staying put for now. :)


Leon - Can you clone the Walsh for me and send me a copy?:D - I just love that card!

and Peter I do have a copy of the no stats in SGC 30 which is the best I will ever own... I have seen a total of 18 sell in the last twenty+ years. Some possibly more than once. I would guess that maybe 40-50 exist. Maybe someone else on the board has better numbers than I do, but I think I am pretty close...

Ed

Wite3
01-26-2014, 11:01 PM
Ed,
My numbers are pretty close...I have 21 sales in the last 18 years...out of those, 6 are resales...cards that sold more than once.

I think there are about 50 Hoblitzell no stats out there which means there are hopefully some to be "found".

Joshua

EvilKing00
01-27-2014, 04:44 AM
Ed,
My numbers are pretty close...I have 21 sales in the last 18 years...out of those, 6 are resales...cards that sold more than once.

I think there are about 50 Hoblitzell no stats out there which means there are hopefully some to be "found".

Joshua

hey Josh,

do you have prices that the cards sold for? Just wondering, as I will have to one day complete this set.:D