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MattyC
01-17-2014, 12:55 PM
I have long been curious of and attracted to the T205 gold border cards. I'd like to add one to represent the set in my collection.

I was wondering if fans of the set or its key cards could weigh in for me, in terms of which is the key or keys to the set, and what characteristics one should seek out when after a standout example (i.e., full, unblemished borders, portrait focus, etc.)

My understanding thus far is that Cobb and Mathewson are two of the more major cards. I kind of have Cobb represented already, but if he is really "the" card in the set, could always add another Ty, I suppose.

Thanks.

Best,

Matt

4815162342
01-17-2014, 12:57 PM
I believe Hobby no stats is what you're looking for.


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Big Six
01-17-2014, 01:03 PM
I vote Mathewson...just a beautiful card...second would be Joss...tough card!!!


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brianp-beme
01-17-2014, 01:07 PM
Mathewson is a great choice, but it has been noted here before that this particular card is frequently seen out of focus.

Brian

Leon
01-17-2014, 01:11 PM
I personally think the Cobb in the set is one of the absolute best looking cards in the hobby, especially when it has the "pop" factor.....

http://luckeycards.com/pt205cobbbrownjohnson3x.jpg

MattyC
01-17-2014, 01:18 PM
Leon,

Please elaborate on the "pop" of which you speak. Thx.

Leon
01-17-2014, 01:21 PM
Leon,

Please elaborate on the "pop" of which you speak. Thx.

Sometimes cards, especially ones like the T205 Cobby, have super clarity, brightness and focus. Cards like that are said to "pop" because of their colors. It can refer to any card that, when you look at it, you go "wow!!".

EvilKing00
01-17-2014, 02:12 PM
Cobb and Mathewson are beautiful, as well as expensive. If your only looking for beauty I would check out the subset in the T205's that are the minor league cards. They are amazing. Im at work now, but maybe over the weekend I can post them, if someone dosnt beat me to it.

Runscott
01-17-2014, 02:34 PM
Agreed on the Matty - if registration is good; otherwise he looks Frankensteinish. Here's a nice one:

Al C.risafulli
01-17-2014, 02:52 PM
I agree with Leon, I think that aside from the N162 Kelly, the T205 Cobb is the most beautiful card in the hobby.

That said, the Matty is gorgeous as well, and as far as lesser HOFers goes, the Zach Wheat has always been one of my favorite cards. I also really like the Joe Tinker.

Tough to stop at just one for this set. It's a gorgeous one.

-Al

MattyC
01-17-2014, 03:03 PM
Think I gotta go with the Cobb, all things considered.

Now to find a nice mid-grade example! Anybody got one-- just holla!

veloce
01-17-2014, 03:52 PM
One type is not enough. Get a NL player (Matty?), AL player (Joss, since the bio is interesting and highlights one of the great things about T205... stats and write ups), and a minor leaguer.

Pythonfactory
01-17-2014, 06:22 PM
Someone posted this T205 recently and it is a stunner. (not my card)

MattyC
01-17-2014, 07:12 PM
Now if that isn't one of the freshest cards I've ever seen-- dude looks like a Mafia enforcer. I have to get that one just for flavor's sake!

tschock
01-17-2014, 07:16 PM
One type is not enough. Get a NL player (Matty?), AL player (Joss, since the bio is interesting and highlights one of the great things about T205... stats and write ups), and a minor leaguer.

+1... you beat me to it.

EvilKing00
01-17-2014, 07:35 PM
Someone posted this T205 recently and it is a stunner. (not my card)

Mow thats what i ment, all the minor league cards are amazing

DerekMichael
01-17-2014, 07:37 PM
Matty C ... get yourself a nice Joss memorial card !!!

Derek

CW
01-17-2014, 08:07 PM
I have to agree with Steve on the minor league cards. The design and colors on those are so nice.

Matt -- as already mentioned, one of the keys to finding a sharp card is registration. Registration can be all over the place on this issue.

On the Cobb, for example, the red infield can sometimes be shifted a bit, which is not uncommon. Another thing to look for is the brown coloring within the two bats on the Cobb card, which can often be slightly off register.

Cobb, Matty, Zach Wheat have all been mentioned, and are all beautiful cards, but another standout is the Home Run Baker -- just love the blue/gold color combo on the A's cards...

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/cw2112/cool-cardboard/3908/1911-t205-frank-home-run-baker

HercDriver
01-17-2014, 10:08 PM
It always seemed to me that the Speaker card is a tough card to find at a bargain rate. Maybe it's the BoSox fans, but although not tough to find, it's tough to find without spending more than you would expect.

Cheers,
Geno

Matt E.
01-17-2014, 10:49 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/168vnki.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ut421v.jpg



MattyC,

Enclosed are some links that may help you from the set my son and I have completed.

Truly one of the most beautiful pre war tobacco sets out there today.

If it was me, I would buy a tough variation or short print. It seems like the Hall of Famers are always available at one time or another.

http://imageevent.com/babybingbaseball/thetoughies

http://imageevent.com/babybingbaseball/shortprints

http://imageevent.com/babybingbaseball/underconstruction

http://imageevent.com/babybingbaseball/minorleaguers

THE cards for the set are: Hoblitzell "No Stats", Wallace "One Line" and recently, Mathewson "37-1"


Thanks,

Matt

asoriano
01-18-2014, 08:00 AM
And one more. Wilhelm "suffered"

EvilKing00
01-18-2014, 09:22 AM
And for all of us "freeks" some of the printing errors are like modern art!

nebboy
01-18-2014, 09:55 AM
Joss - is for me the best
I have tried to find the best example I could before making bids - still have of not gotten one yet.

MattyC
01-18-2014, 10:25 AM
The Joss card is fantastic as well. I will probably do his and a Cobb, and one of those minor leaguers whose image strikes me. These seem like cards I'd want to select in person at The National, unless online scans were very high rez.

Leon
01-18-2014, 11:02 AM
The Joss card is fantastic as well. I will probably do his and a Cobb, and one of those minor leaguers whose image strikes me. These seem like cards I'd want to select in person at The National, unless online scans were very high rez.

In-person certainly helps. I distinctly remember seeing my T205 Cobby for the first time. Brian Dec had just got it graded and we were both set up at the now defunct Oaks Show. I had been waiting for one for literally years that had the right characteristics. It had to be well centered, have the "pop" effect and not have much gold border missing. And it also had to be priced right. I had no cash but he and I did a trade for it. Until I actually did the deal I couldn't take my mind off of it. (I think I am obsessed :))

Fortunately it was in an SGC 5.5 holder and I got it bumped to a 6 on review. The grade didn't matter that much but if/when I go to sell it, it will help the price some.

MattyC
01-18-2014, 11:20 AM
You mean if/when you sell it to me!

Wite3
01-18-2014, 12:00 PM
I have to agree with Turner (as my avatar can attest to)...the Wilhelm is such a pretty card.
For wonderful T205 art...my picks are...

1. Wilhelm
2. Matty
3. Cobb
4. Joss
5. Pfeister

EvilKing00
01-19-2014, 08:37 AM
My scanner isn't so great, but these cards have awesome background color and beautiful borders.

http://n.b5z.net/zirw/1390138599429/i/u/6141290/i/ml.jpg

T205 GB
01-19-2014, 06:17 PM
And for all of us "freeks" some of the printing errors are like modern art!

Yes and just incase I have a few if your interested;)