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JoeyF1981
10-21-2013, 11:38 AM
Does this Cy Young look altered in any way?

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq224/Blackitalian/t206young_zps1cff4deb.jpg (http://s450.photobucket.com/user/Blackitalian/media/t206young_zps1cff4deb.jpg.html)

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq224/Blackitalian/t206youngback_zps0b90ab24.jpg (http://s450.photobucket.com/user/Blackitalian/media/t206youngback_zps0b90ab24.jpg.html)

Sean
10-21-2013, 11:41 AM
It looks fine to me Joey.

insccollectibles
10-21-2013, 11:45 AM
I don't see an alteration by looking at the picture.

JoeyF1981
10-21-2013, 11:46 AM
I was just curious since its a raw card and Im no expert on spotting alterations. Any guess on what the value might be?

Sean
10-21-2013, 11:51 AM
I would say between $250 and $300.

chaddurbin
10-21-2013, 11:52 AM
I was just curious since its a raw card and Im no expert on spotting alterations. Any guess on what the value might be?

i was the 3rd bidder, card is fine and the value is what it went for yesterday. if you get it graded depending on the grade it could be anywhere from $200-$350.

Sean
10-21-2013, 11:56 AM
Quan, where was this card auctioned?

JoeyF1981
10-21-2013, 11:57 AM
Quan, where was this card auctioned?

ebay

the 'stache
10-21-2013, 01:38 PM
Joey, what you want to do is get yourself a nice beater T206 (from somebody on this forum), it shouldn't cost you more than $20-25 delivered, and use that as your baseline for whenever you buy a more expensive card. Compare whatever card you buy to the common, looking at both under magnification (a 10 x jeweler's loupe is what I use). Then, look at the card with a black light in a pitch dark room. If there's been any kind of restoration work done on the card, it should show under the black light. The only question I had was that upper right corner. If somebody has added any paper to the card, you'll spot it in person.

Here's a really good article David Cycleback wrote on detecting restorations to art and collectibles (including baseball cards).

http://www.cycleback.com/blacklight/restore.html

It's part of a more in depth guide on the use of black light.

As you handle more of these cards, you'll feel more comfortable, and if anything smells wrong, you'll know. Always buy from reputable dealers. Buy with something that gives you protection, like a credit card, or Paypal (regular does, gift does not. I pay with regular PP on Ebay). Get used to the feel of the old paper used to print these cards. Look at the printing technique that was used to print them. Take that beater T206, and use a razor blade to cut off part of an edge, then look at it under your loupe. You'll see the difference between a factory cut/normal wear to something that's been trimmed.

bbcard1
10-21-2013, 02:02 PM
Looks fine to me. It may have been soaked and pressed at some point to minimize the wrinkles, but it depends on how hard core you are to as if that would constitute alterations. Nice example for the grade...I'd be happy with it.

JoeyF1981
10-29-2013, 11:49 AM
Just got it graded by SGC and it came back a 30. Only paid $205 for it!

chaddurbin
10-29-2013, 01:05 PM
good grade for the card. i had it at fair (20) when i put in my bid.

JoeyF1981
10-29-2013, 02:33 PM
I was looking at other sgc 30's and comparing the two. Does mine seem overgraded or right for the grade?

wazoo
10-29-2013, 06:20 PM
Although the corners are pretty rounded, and there are some creases, the card presents well and I believe it deserves the grade of a 30.

conor912
10-29-2013, 08:04 PM
I wouldn't pay 30 money for it.....it's oval!!!

JoeyF1981
10-29-2013, 08:06 PM
I wouldn't pay 30 money for it.....it's oval!!!

I dont think ive ever met anyone that has 30 money....lol