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the 'stache
10-19-2013, 02:16 PM
I am very much enjoying collecting my T206 set, but on the discussion about what the culture of the forum used to be like, Barry made the comment that the pre-war forum has become almost too t206-centric, to the chagrin of many. As a newer collector from this era, I have seen just how easy it is to get lured by the high profile of "the Monster". It offers many challenges because of the sheer number of cards within the set, and the different ways it can be collected.

But I don't want to talk about that set today. Nor do I want to talk about the wonderful Goudey cards, or the Cracker Jack sets. I want to ask you guys to share your favorites from what might be considered slightly lesser-known sets. Cards that hold just as much history, cards that have just as much charm, only they lack the big spotlight.

So, if you please, let's see some of your favorites outside the "major" sets I have listed. And if you would, please tell me how you got interested in collecting the cards you're showing me. What makes them special to you? I would love to learn some more about the cards produced in the late 1800s, too. I understand that the Allen & Ginter sets, the Old Judge, etc are considered benchmark sets for their period, but I know very little about them. I would like to broaden my knowledge on these, too. How were the pictures taken back then different from those just 20 to 30 years later? Let's see some Hugh Duffy cards, some Cap Ansons, some Captain Jack Glasscocks and some Tim Keefes.

MattyC
10-19-2013, 02:22 PM
These are two very collectible sets, IMO. I find the D304s to be like small works of art. And the e90-2 Wags has always been "the attainable portrait," to me.

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/-top-20-/13212/1910-e90-2-honus-wagner

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/-top-20-/11313/1911-d304-ty-cobb

Mikehealer
10-19-2013, 02:28 PM
Here's three E270 Colgan's Red Borders

the 'stache
10-19-2013, 02:28 PM
I have to admit a soft spot for the American Caramel cards. I think I just like the candy cards in general. The D304 is new to me, however. The likeness of the Cobb is sharp, and I like the color and level of detail.

Good start to the thread, Matt! I'd love to add a Wagner portrait, but the ones I have seen have been way beyond what I want to spend. I'll have to look into this one.

Here's three E270 Colgan's Red Borders

Mike, where did one get these? You've piqued my curiosity.

ullmandds
10-19-2013, 02:39 PM
Not to be left out d303's...one mislabeled...and a token t216 mino.

Mikehealer
10-19-2013, 02:44 PM
Nice Mino Pete. I've got a D303 Evers that could be the twin of yours.

Bill, the E270's came in tins with gum just like their brother, E254 Stars of the Diamond I believe.

ullmandds
10-19-2013, 02:47 PM
mike...i bet yours doesn't have a crease across his face!

Mikehealer
10-19-2013, 02:55 PM
Not only does it have a crease running through his face, its also mislabeled by a TPG.

http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/jkj/large/D303%20Evers.jpg

ullmandds
10-19-2013, 03:27 PM
that's crazy...both psa and sgc mislabeled it!

packs
10-19-2013, 03:28 PM
Always loved the D311's

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/madjams/Meikle_zps3db92668.jpg

rgpete
10-19-2013, 06:15 PM
Generic Portraits don't help

rgpete
10-19-2013, 06:31 PM
I think the Domino Discs fits in this cataegory

packs
10-19-2013, 06:47 PM
I really love these cards too

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/madjams/d06264e5-453d-4034-8407-a87719185e1f_zpscad7d860.jpg

Kawika
10-19-2013, 07:05 PM
Howzabout some Cubans?
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/billikens/huge/Billiken%20Habana%20Thomas.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/billikens/huge/Billiken%20Santa%20Clara%20Warfield.jpg

Texxxx
10-19-2013, 07:39 PM
I have liked the M101 4/5 set for some time now. I think one of the reason I feel in love with it was the way Mendelsohn distributed the cards to different companies to use for promotional cards. Lots of diversity in the set. 200 different fronts with 18+ different backs. Low grade common cards with common backs go for around $20 or chase the Babe Ruth card for thousands.

Leon
10-19-2013, 07:45 PM
here are a few..

MattyC
10-19-2013, 07:48 PM
I hope to see some Frederick Fotos here-- talk about a very unique set, that also has a monster rare Ruth in it, too.

tedzan
10-19-2013, 09:00 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/1888HessN321jSmith.jpg



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

birdman42
10-19-2013, 09:49 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/Baguer-Goslin-F_zps3e4a7e9f.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/Baguer-Goslin-F_zps3e4a7e9f.jpg.html) http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/ClopayBleuge_zps9ea58c1f.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/ClopayBleuge_zps9ea58c1f.jpg.html) http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/F50-Yuengling-Judge-f_zpscbef6e50.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/F50-Yuengling-Judge-f_zpscbef6e50.jpg.html)

--------->Baguer Chocolates (Cuban, 1930)------------------>Clopay Foto Fun (1938)----------------->F50 Yuengling (1930; same as the other F50 ice cream brands)

Bill

uffda51
10-19-2013, 11:33 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/19thcenturycabinetcards/M117.JPG
Hank O'Day - now a HOFer.

Zach Wheat
10-19-2013, 11:38 PM
One set which is frequently overlooked is the V61. It is a Canadian chocolate set issued with Nielsens Chocolates. It has most of the major stars of the era, has photos that were used in many similar sets and has a rare variation (type I).

Although the Type I variation is found less frequently than the Type II variations, it is a challenging set to collect.

Will post pics when I am back.

Z Wheat

auggiedoggy
10-19-2013, 11:57 PM
How about the 1923 V117 Maple Crispette set:

brianp-beme
10-20-2013, 12:10 AM
Casey at the bat...W503 style.


Brian

the 'stache
10-20-2013, 12:28 AM
Amazing, guys. You all have some incredible collections. I love my T206s (though I sometimes get the feeling that others look at T206 collectors as kids with training wheels on their bikes), but rest assured I am going to put together a very diverse collection.

With the inclusion of the Cuban cards in this topic, I have to ask if there were any major card sets produced for the Negro leaguers? I recall seeing one Josh Gibson card in a REA catalog, but it seemed to be a regional production. I'll have to go back and find it.

I love how baseball cards came in all different shapes and sizes, from the T3s down to the bottle cap sized Domino discs and Colgan Red Borders. And they're all beautiful in their own right. They employ all different kinds of printing techniques. And the advertising makes these cards more interesting. They combine baseball with Americana. I remember shopping at Gimbles when I was a kid in Wisconsin. Advertisements keep places like Gimbles, Marshall Fields, Boston Store, etc alive.

the 'stache
10-20-2013, 12:39 AM
Ok, newbie question. Can somebody please explain to me what a strip card is? Are these hand cut cards?

dstudeba
10-20-2013, 01:55 AM
Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3

N321 -V -------------------------------N321 proof -V
http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/88N321/88N321_Borchers_A.jpghttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/88N321/88N321_Whitehead_Proof_A.jpg

dstudeba
10-20-2013, 01:59 AM
As requested

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/21FrederickFoto/21FrederickFoto_Tobin_A.jpghttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/21FrederickFoto/21FrederickFoto_Kuntz_A.jpghttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/21FrederickFoto/21FrederickFoto_Compton_A.jpg
http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/21FrederickFoto/21FrederickFoto_Cook_A.jpg

the 'stache
10-20-2013, 02:11 AM
Thank you, dstudeba. We are definitely down the rabbit hole now. I'm subscribing to this thread. Lots of things to read up on.

Everybody please make sure your cards are labeled so I know what they are. I think most everybody has, but I just want to mention it.

If there is a God in heaven, he'll let me live a long life. I don't need expensive cars, boats, a house in the Hamptons, or a lot of bling. Just let me put together a kick ass collection to love, and to inspire others. :p

the 'stache
10-20-2013, 02:12 AM
Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3


Are the N321s lithos, or are these hand drawn? They're beautiful.

itjclarke
10-20-2013, 02:34 AM
Not nearly as unpublicized/uncommon as others posted here, but some caramels that are less common than the garden variaty T206.
118617118618
118616

And not Pre-War, but oh well...
118613118614

To your earlier question Bill, yes- strip cards are hand cut from strips of cards... this isn't necessarily a strip, but was hand cut from what had been a pair of Menko cards. I know there are a number of uncut strips that have been posted to the board.
118619

.. and a couple more "attainable" alternatives to the famous T206 portraits
118623118622

dstudeba
10-20-2013, 02:37 AM
The N321s are lithos I believe. They are from the same photos used in the N338-1 SF Hess series. Below are scans of an N321 (from eBay) and an N338-1.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1888-S-F-Hess-N321-BUCKLEY-Graded-SGC-A-Auth-/00/s/NDk4WDMwOQ==/z/3JgAAOxyp-BSJmBm/$T2eC16hHJFsFFSFDI,gYBSJmBl5c7!~~60_12.JPGhttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/forsale/Collection/1888_N338-1_Buckley_SGCA_3200.jpg

the 'stache
10-20-2013, 02:56 AM
Not nearly as unpublicized/uncommon as others posted here, but some caramels that are less common than the garden variaty T206.

And not Pre-War, but oh well...


To your earlier question Bill, yes- strip cards are hand cut from strips of cards... this isn't necessarily a strip, but was hand cut from what had been a pair of Menko cards. I know there are a number of uncut strips that have been posted to the board.

.. and a couple more "attainable" alternatives to the famous T206 portraits


Those are great cards, Ian! Lots of variety, too. As for the vintage, you're allowed! ;) I don't think anybody here will raise a stink to your inclusion of the great Jackie Robinson!

I have seen those Sporting Life cards before, and I like them very much. The colors are very soft, almost like they were done with pastels. Eventually I'll be adding a Wagner and a Plank to my collection, and those two are great candidates. They evoke the Monster, but they stand on their own, also.

You knew I'd like all of those. Come the beginning of the year, the hardest part for me will be choosing which cards I want to buy first.

The N321s are lithos I believe. They are from the same photos used in the N338-1 SF Hess series. Below are scans of an N321 (from eBay) and an N338-1.


I thought they might be, but I learned long ago not to make assumptions on something I am not knowledgeable about. Thank you!

Rickyy
10-20-2013, 03:18 AM
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/ricardoyo/ECards_zps01375c92.jpg



http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i249/ricardoyo/T210andT211_zpsc53464c0.jpg


Ricky Y

bcbgcbrcb
10-20-2013, 04:29 AM
Here are a few of mine, all oversize items..........

rgpete
10-20-2013, 05:54 AM
I know this is OT but these are seldom seen. What about the matchbook covers from the 30'S

Exhibitman
10-20-2013, 08:20 AM
H815 Adam Hats Lefty Gomez, B & W variety.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1930s%20Adam%20Hats%20H815-2%20Gomez_%20Lefty.jpg

I got interested in this series several years ago when I picked up a quantity of the boxers, other athletes and non-sports subjects and have been slowly hunting them down.

jb217676
10-20-2013, 08:40 AM
I consider postcards to be non-mainstream, here's my collection:

http://imageevent.com/jeffintoronto/baseballpostcards

Jason Carota
10-20-2013, 08:52 AM
I have liked the M101 4/5 set for some time now. I think one of the reason I feel in love with it was the way Mendelsohn distributed the cards to different companies to use for promotional cards. Lots of diversity in the set. 200 different fronts with 18+ different backs. Low grade common cards with common backs go for around $20 or chase the Babe Ruth card for thousands.


I couldn't agree more!


http://www.huntington-rogers.com/img/tsn/1916_m101_5_leonard_100.jpg

tedzan
10-20-2013, 08:57 AM
Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3

N321 -V -------------------------------N321 proof -V
http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/88N321/88N321_Borchers_A.jpghttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/88N321/88N321_Whitehead_Proof_A.jpg


Therefore, if I understand you correctly, SGC mis-labelled my N321 card of John Smith ?

If so, then what value do you place on this S.F. Hess card ?


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/1888HessN321jSmith_zps024c5ee4.jpg



TED Z

dstudeba
10-20-2013, 09:43 AM
Bill - Thanks for the kind words and starting a good thread.

Adam - Never get tired of seeing your Adam's Hats.

Ted - Yes, I saw the first SGC mislabelled one in a Legendary catalog a couple of years ago. I emailed Doug Allen about it, but didn't hear anything back. Since then I have unfortunately seen a few more. I think their value is half that of those that were put in packs, but I believe Terry Knouse had a number of these and would probably know better. Here is the best reference I have found on them, years ago from Cycleback. I have not taken the time to confirm or refute his assertion that they are probably one of a kind. http://www.cycleback.com/1800s/tobacco4.htm

Edited to add:

For a specific number, my Whitehead is for sale for $1200 (http://www.baseballcardresource.com/forsale/Collection/1888_N321-3_Whitehead_GAIA_1200.jpg), so I put the value on it at a little less :)

jerrys
10-20-2013, 09:45 AM
118658

MikeGarcia
10-20-2013, 12:07 PM
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2042957/view/BATERR-UPS_NEW.JPG

uffda51
10-20-2013, 02:08 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/1936r312colortint/websize/R312%20Stengel.jpg

R312

tedzan
10-20-2013, 03:02 PM
Ted - Yes, I saw the first SGC mislabelled one in a Legendary catalog a couple of years ago. I emailed Doug Allen about it, but didn't hear anything back. Since then I have unfortunately seen a few more. I think their value is half that of those that were put in packs, but I believe Terry Knouse had a number of these and would probably know better. Here is the best reference I have found on them, years ago from Cycleback. I have not taken the time to confirm or refute his assertion that they are probably one of a kind. http://www.cycleback.com/1800s/tobacco4.htm

Edited to add:

For a specific number, my Whitehead is for sale for $1200 (http://www.baseballcardresource.com/forsale/Collection/1888_N321-3_Whitehead_GAIA_1200.jpg), so I put the value on it at a little less :)


DAN

Thanx for the great info regarding these cards (proofs); and, for the link to David's informative website.

My John Smith proof is a perfect example why I don't usually like acquiring graded cards. In raw form, I
would have realized it was the "paper" issue.

Anyhow, SGC's new location is only an hour drive from me......so, the next time I visit them, I will have
them re-grade (re-label) this card.

I really appreciate your enlightening me on these S.F Hess cards.


TED Z

birdman42
10-20-2013, 04:29 PM
Here are a few more Canadian issues. I'll leave the V61s for Zach to show. Who has a Honey Boy, C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee, Willard's Sports Champions, Crescent Ice Cream, or Peggy Popcorn to put up?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/250_HollandMogridge-F.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/250_HollandMogridge-F.jpg.html)

1925 Holland's Creamery, Winnipeg, Manitoba. 18 cards, Washington Senators only. All examples are ridiculously tough, but there's at least one player believed to be unique that's owned by a board member.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/V100-Shanks-F_zpsf075ee72.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/V100-Shanks-F_zpsf075ee72.jpg.html)
1922 V100 Willard's Chocolates, Toronto. 180 cards in set.


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/WmPaterson-Milan-F_zps78af7cac.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/WmPaterson-Milan-F_zps78af7cac.jpg.html)

1922 (? OC says '23) V89 William Patterson, Brantford. 50 cards in set.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/V353-Rice-F_zps4f4620b4.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/V353-Rice-F_zps4f4620b4.jpg.html)
1933 WorldWide Gum (Canadian equivalent of Goudeys). 94 cards in set. This and the next have back text in English then in French.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e317/birdman42/V355-Bluege-F_zpsf6f9dffc.jpg (http://s42.photobucket.com/user/birdman42/media/V355-Bluege-F_zpsf6f9dffc.jpg.html)

1936 WorldWide Gum. 134 cards in set.

Happy collecting!

Bill

Leon
10-20-2013, 04:43 PM
Here are a few more Canadian issues. I'll leave the V61s for Zach to show. Who has a Honey Boy, C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee, Willard's Sports Champions, Crescent Ice Cream, or Peggy Popcorn to put up?


Bill

I am a type card collector so have a bit up on most that aren't. I will show the Peggy since that one will be one most don't have.

http://luckeycards.com/pfcuncpeggypopcorn1920.jpg

Tim Kindler
10-20-2013, 08:39 PM
Thanks guys, You made my day today with all of the great cards displayed in this thread. I haven't had much time to lurk lately, but it was sure nice to see some sweet cards tonight. I also learned some things new about the SF Hess set.
Thanks and Take Care Everyone,
Tim Kindler

ValKehl
10-20-2013, 09:37 PM
I really love the colors of this 1911 Baseball Bats Type 3 card of WaJo, which I recently made my avatar. The other 2 types of Baseball Bats cards have greyish backgrounds, as opposed to red backgrounds. Some, but not all, Baseball Bats cards have orange borders, like this one, and are sometimes misidentified as 1910 Orange Border cards.
Val

nolemmings
10-20-2013, 10:51 PM
Beautiful card Val.

Let's not forget the silks and felts--S74 and B18

http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/prewar/various/large/10s74cobb.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/prewar/b18/huge/14b18_maranville.jpg

Seiklis
10-20-2013, 10:59 PM
My Favorite Set, 1924 Diaz Cigarettes

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=321&pictureid=6527http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=321&pictureid=7454http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=321&pictureid=7565
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=466&pictureid=11213http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=466&pictureid=11497

Bosox Blair
10-20-2013, 11:43 PM
Here are a few more Canadian issues...Who has a ... C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee ... to put up?


OK - here's a few:

dstudeba
10-21-2013, 10:27 PM
Ted, glad to help. If you need any help educating SGC on this please let me know. On the plus side, the printing on both types are the same and that is the truly spectacular aspect of these cards.

kcohen
10-22-2013, 12:17 AM
Whiskey and Cards. Can it get any better?

kcohen
10-22-2013, 12:32 AM
And a couple of bread cards

Pythonfactory
10-22-2013, 12:37 AM
Whiskey and Cards. Can it get any better?

Nope; sounds perfect. Awesome card.

Zach Wheat
10-22-2013, 08:19 AM
Here are some Neilsen's V 61-1 & V 61-2. The Type 1 cards are printed with the company name in a Gothic script on the reverse and seem to have a thinner more fragile card stock. The fonts used in a Type 2 card is plain, on a thicker card stock. The photo's were used in other sets including E121's (purist classify some of these as W 575-1's), some strip cards like W573's and even some pre-war W572's with a modern (ie post-2000) stamp added that looks like a V61-2 Neilsen's ad back.

The Type I set has approx. 120 cards with a good mix of big names including Cobb, Ruth, Johnson, Sisler, Hornsby, Alexander, Collins, Goslin and Wheat.


Z Wheat

tedzan
10-22-2013, 09:34 AM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/SadaharuOh50x.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/SadaharuOh50xb.jpg


TED Z

soxinseven
10-22-2013, 09:52 AM
A couple of mine...

soxinseven
10-22-2013, 09:54 AM
2 more...

ullmandds
10-22-2013, 10:00 AM
nice steve...don't see those 2 every day...or any e97 b/w's for that matter...except maybe Irv Young!!!

tedzan
10-22-2013, 11:35 AM
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ullmandds
10-22-2013, 11:37 AM
beauty Ted!!!! The "ASS MAN!"

tedzan
10-22-2013, 11:44 AM
Hey PETE

You never fail to put a smile on my face :)


TED Z

the-illini
10-22-2013, 11:58 AM
haven't seen one from this set posted...

soxinseven
10-22-2013, 12:47 PM
Ramly's aren't considered scarce, but the TTT backs are pretty tough...

4815162342
10-22-2013, 12:55 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintchancebk.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintfrankchance.jpg


TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

Nice E105 Chance Ted! Here's my Evers, now we just need Tinker...

http://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/9009/30069344/E105%20Evers.jpghttp://caimages.collectors.com/psaimages/9009/30069344/E105%20Evers%20back.jpg

smtjoy
10-22-2013, 01:07 PM
Great thread, love to see all the variety. Here are a few more-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1933ButterCreamR306-Klein-35.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1933ButterCreamR306-Klein-35.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1922WMPatterson-Carey-60.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1922WMPatterson-Carey-60.jpg.html)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1921E253OxfordConfections-Hornsby-35-Both.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1921E253OxfordConfections-Hornsby-35-Both.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1913-15Pinkerton-Clarke-BlankBack-60.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1913-15Pinkerton-Clarke-BlankBack-60.jpg.html)

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1909-16MaxSteinMcGraw50Both.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1909-16MaxSteinMcGraw50Both.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1933UncleJacksCandyGrove30.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1933UncleJacksCandyGrove30.jpg.html)

ValKehl
10-22-2013, 03:31 PM
Whiskey and Cards. Can it get any better?

Yes, Ken, it can get better - how about a tobacco trade card with Wag's picture on it?!!

BTW, your beautiful D310-Peckinpaugh would sure make a nice addition to my 1924 Senators players' card collection! :D

Best,
Val

Exhibitman
10-22-2013, 03:54 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/W-Unc%20Ruth.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/W-Unc%20Speaker%202.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/1930%20W%20Unc%20McGraw.jpg

x2drich2000
10-22-2013, 04:13 PM
W554's - Whenever I asked about these at shows, I usually get a "what are they?" or "I don't have any strip cards." A nice small set packed with HOFers and some tough variations. Here are my two with Bonemery stamped backs
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=209&pictureid=12019http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=209&pictureid=12020
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=209&pictureid=6994http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=209&pictureid=6995

DJ

Eric72
10-22-2013, 04:33 PM
When I first joined Net54, a board member was kind enough to send these three cards to me as a gift (thanks again, Scott.) They are still in my collection and I intend to keep it that way.

If I have done my homework properly, they are, from left to right:

- 1929-30 Four-on-one Exhibits L. A. Blue/O. Melillo/F. O. Rourke (Frank O'Rourke)/F. Schulte

- 1916 M101-4 Sporting News Joe Connolly

- 1939-46 Salutation Exhibits Carl Hubbell

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/EricsPhotographs/FirstthreePre-Warcards_zps93e8e214.jpg

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/EricsPhotographs/FirstthreePre-Warcardsback_zpsd282abb2.jpg

Bringing these out tonight to scan them reminded me that there is much more to Pre-War than just T206. Thanks for starting this thread, Bill.

Best Regards,

Eric

HRBAKER
10-22-2013, 05:02 PM
1912 L1 Leathers

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/L1Baker_zpsf7daf12e.jpg

S81 Silks

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/CollinsS81_zpse2448040.jpeghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/154469a-copy_lg_zps45e19fde.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/davis1001.jpg

Stevens Firearms Blotter

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/blotter001.jpg

tedzan
10-22-2013, 05:06 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/jimmyfoxxsilverdollar.jpg


TED Z

ullmandds
10-22-2013, 07:08 PM
m101-3

Mikehealer
10-22-2013, 07:38 PM
More from Louisiana
Coupons and Kottons

http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/t2132coupon/large/T213-2%20Chance%20Los%20Angeles%20portrait.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/t2132coupon/large/T213-2%20Evers.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/t2132coupon/large/T213-2%20Tinker%20Chicago%20Fed%20bat%20on.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/fortrade/large/T216%20Evers.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/fortrade/large/T216%20Tinker.jpg

ValKehl
10-22-2013, 08:42 PM
Another bread card.

dstudeba
10-23-2013, 12:55 AM
Hey Ted, was it ever determined where that Foxx came from? I remember something about the image being on a Wartime Bond poster, but I forget now. Tough piece.

Pat R
10-23-2013, 07:37 AM
Jeff, I like the Stevens Firearms Philadelphia Athletics I was actually going
to ask if anyone had any of these since you rarely see them. Although I
don't collect guns having grown up in a family that hunted I have a number
of them and it combines two of my interests, so in the future I would like
to own one.

scooter729
10-23-2013, 07:47 AM
A few random items which I don't believe have been added here yet.....

sycks22
10-23-2013, 07:50 AM
Close to pre war

tedzan
10-23-2013, 08:05 AM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/akottonchase.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bkottonchase.jpg


TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

Leon
10-23-2013, 08:44 AM
someone mentioned Steven's Firearms cards/blotters. Here are a few...with ole man Mack burning a hand rolled stogey :) And a large promo card of the Macon Peaches team, with "Little Willie" the League's most popular batboy.

http://luckeycards.com/phunc1911stevensfirearmsx3.jpg

Pat R
10-23-2013, 10:45 AM
Leon, It was me thanks for posting yours. I know they come in different
colors but most of the ones I have seen have been blue.
Have you seen any of these for sale recently?

Patrick

Leon
10-23-2013, 10:51 AM
Leon, It was me thanks for posting yours. I know they come in different
colors but most of the ones I have seen have been blue.
Have you seen any of these for sale recently?

Patrick

No, I haven't seen one for sale in at least a few years, from what I can remember. They do come up and aren't too terribly expensive when they do.....A common might be $150-$250 and a HOF'er might double that, depending on grade etc....They are neat though...and I especially like them when they have specific company ink stamps on them, as the top one does.

dstudeba
10-23-2013, 11:27 AM
Here is a discussion on them a from few years ago (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=118814).

Below is the only known copy of the last discovered one.

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/11StevensFirearms/11StevensFirearms_Collins_A.jpghttp://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/11StevensFirearms/11StevensFirearms_Collins_B.jpg

smtjoy
10-23-2013, 12:27 PM
A couple more-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/M101-6%20Felix%20Mendlesohn/1917-20FelixMendelsohnM101-6-Ehmke-10-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/M101-6%20Felix%20Mendlesohn/1917-20FelixMendelsohnM101-6-Ehmke-10-CU.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1925-31W590Carey60.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1925-31W590Carey60.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/T215-2rcMeyers20.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/T215-2rcMeyers20.jpg.html)

tedzan
10-23-2013, 03:29 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1948bluetint8stars.jpg



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

Exhibitman
10-23-2013, 03:47 PM
Not much chatter about Wheaties cards but I think they're not only some of the better looking cards of the 1930s, they are some of the best values for 'budget-conscious' HOF collectors:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/saleholding/websize/1935%20Wheaties%20Cochrane.jpeg

ValKehl
10-23-2013, 04:14 PM
Being a native and life-long Virginian, one of my next-to-impossible collecting goals is all of the cards with Virginia State League players. T206 and T210-2 cards are relatively easy to obtain, but T209-2 and E222 cards are really tough. If anyone is willing to part with an E222, I have good stuff to trade, including a N403 Yum Yum and a N172 Hank O'Day.
Val

h2oya311
10-23-2013, 04:37 PM
Where's the love for Helmars?? And I don't mean those vintage-looking modern cards that waste space on eBay...

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/helmarstamps/websize/Cobb%20T332.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/helmarstamps/websize/1911%20Evers.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/helmarstamps/websize/1911%20Johnson.jpg

HRBAKER
10-23-2013, 04:40 PM
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/plowsbarry001.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/D381Oldring_zps4cfd5b28.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/MonarchTypChief.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/D381Murphy.jpg

bn2cardz
10-23-2013, 05:26 PM
When I first started showing interest in the Goudey cards as a teen an older collector suggested looking at the Delong set as well. He was right these are nice cards, but never got another one after my first:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/bn2cardz/bn2cardz/33DelongTerry_GD2.jpghttp://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/bn2cardz/bn2cardz/33DelongTerry_GD2_bck.jpg

tedzan
10-23-2013, 06:13 PM
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/T209x9colorsubjects1bk_zps0e237698.jpg


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/6xT209cocrgimclafl_zps85eff3a6.jpg




Missing Booles to complete this set of 16.



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

dstudeba
10-23-2013, 07:17 PM
http://www.baseballcardresource.com/forsale/Collection/NotForSale/1910_E99_Bodie_SGC50.jpg

tedzan
10-23-2013, 07:52 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GoodwinOJcatcherBBcard.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/websize/GoodwinOJcatcherBBcardb.jpg



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

MikeGarcia
10-23-2013, 10:26 PM
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2042957/view/1939BGSHENRICH.JPG



.....Tom Henrich rookie card.....the grader called him ''Tommy'' up in the flip....he must have known him better than I .

kcohen
10-24-2013, 12:05 AM
Yes, Ken, it can get better - how about a tobacco trade card with Wag's picture on it?!!

BTW, your beautiful D310-Peckinpaugh would sure make a nice addition to my 1924 Senators players' card collection! :D

Best,
Val

Hi Val,

Speaking of the Senators, I picked up this photo at the Chantilly Show. Apologies to the OP as this is neither a card nor is it from a set.

Tom S.
10-24-2013, 11:28 AM
Here's some that haven't been shown yet...sorry for the large scans...:o

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um12319.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um19234.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um20303.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um19235.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um15270.jpg

Tom S.
10-24-2013, 11:35 AM
A few more...

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um21598.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um19233.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um19236.jpg

http://www.sgccardregistry.com/cards/um18131.jpg

Ladder7
10-24-2013, 05:39 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/e103honus.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/T209Missett.png
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/e253bmp-1.jpg

tedzan
10-24-2013, 06:22 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/GeoMillerLeftyODoulx50.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/GeoMillerLeftyODoulx50b.jpg


TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

Exhibitman
10-25-2013, 10:21 AM
I don't see many of these Angola cards offered:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1920s-1930s%20Angola%20118%20Maranville.jpg

DixieBaseball
10-25-2013, 12:30 PM
W501,Square Proofs, Tin Tops....

x2drich2000
10-25-2013, 03:49 PM
Don't think I saw these posted yet. r311
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=249&pictureid=7461

DJ

ValKehl
10-25-2013, 08:13 PM
1929 Leader Novelty Candy and 1926 Kut Outs (backs are blank for both cards):

marcdelpercio
10-25-2013, 08:55 PM
A few less common ones:

1922 Eastern Exhibit - Speaker...one of the tougher Exhibits

1911 S74 Colored Silk - not that rare, but still pretty and unique looking

1923 Lections of Shawkey and Chance - about as low grade as cards can get, but try finding one for sale anywhere

1910 T100 Silhouettes - New York Giants catcher. Very scarce, mostly non-sports set with a few sports images

ctownboy
10-25-2013, 09:13 PM
A few different things. Curtis Ireland Candy, S81 silk and a 1928 York Caramel Type 1 card.

JLange
10-26-2013, 04:26 AM
A few 1930s sets featuring Cleveland Indians Pitcher Mel Harder:

-1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pens
-1936 R311 Leather Finish
-1935-36 Diamond Matchbooks
-1937 Cleveland Press Indians Album Cutouts

tedzan
10-27-2013, 01:45 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/baberuthconniemackas.jpg




TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

calvindog
10-27-2013, 03:15 PM
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/6283452934/" title="1911-16 Virginia Extra T216 Fielding by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6097/6283452934_71e4700405_o.jpg" width="911" height="739" alt="1911-16 Virginia Extra T216 Fielding"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3256291466/" title="1910 Nadja Caramels E104 III by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3505/3256291466_1cf94f4626_o.jpg" width="900" height="730" alt="1910 Nadja Caramels E104 III"></a>

calvindog
10-27-2013, 03:24 PM
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/4343498977/" title="1904 Stenzel's Rooter Button by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4035/4343498977_376138489e_o.jpg" width="1120" height="739" alt="1904 Stenzel's Rooter Button"></a>

calvindog
10-27-2013, 03:39 PM
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910089374/" title="1928 Star Player Candy by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3234/2910089374_304b2f8660_o.jpg" width="418" height="735" alt="1928 Star Player Candy"></a>

Hankphenom
10-27-2013, 06:47 PM
Great super-rarities, Jeff!

birdman42
10-27-2013, 09:00 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/T209Missett.png


Somehow this guy never made it onto our periodic "best names in baseball" threads.

Bill

tedzan
10-28-2013, 11:59 AM
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/BlueCroftsMcGraw50.jpg....http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/BlueCroftsMcGraw50b.jpg



TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

LKeeler
10-28-2013, 02:09 PM
E92 Dockmans

wolterse
10-28-2013, 06:33 PM
Wood

wolterse
10-28-2013, 06:34 PM
Speaker

x2drich2000
10-28-2013, 06:44 PM
Well I guess if we're putting all the e92's out there, I'll add the Nadja

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=436&pictureid=12377

DJ

Leon
10-28-2013, 07:00 PM
more

joeadcock
10-30-2013, 04:19 PM
Leon

Is that Shotwell Jacobson unique as far as you know?

tedzan
10-30-2013, 04:29 PM
1947 BOND BREAD rookie cards


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1947bb6rookiestars.jpg



1947 TIP TOP BREAD Yankees

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/a1947yankeestiptop6.jpg
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/a1947yankeestiptop6b.jpg


TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

joeadcock
10-30-2013, 08:21 PM
Tarzan

the 'stache
10-30-2013, 09:46 PM
You guys have truly outdone yourselves here. Great thread! A big thank you to everybody who has participated!

bbpostcards
10-30-2013, 10:36 PM
For more, visit http://www.sportingoregon.com/

joeadcock
10-31-2013, 09:56 PM
circa 1910

itjclarke
10-31-2013, 11:17 PM
Just got this in the mail.. National Caramel to compliment all my American Caramel.

joeadcock
11-05-2013, 09:42 PM
Eatem up

Leon
11-06-2013, 11:55 AM
Leon

Is that Shotwell Jacobson unique as far as you know?

There is a Ruth and one other common, I believe. The common was quite low grade as I remember it. Lets add another uniquely known card to the mix...

tedzan
11-06-2013, 07:40 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintchancebk.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintfrankchance.jpg



TED Z

tedzan
11-06-2013, 07:56 PM
1904 was the year that there was NO Major League World Series. But, here we have the Buffalo Bisons.
The Triple-A Eastern League Champions.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/large/a1904buffalo.jpg


TED Z
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

joeadcock
11-06-2013, 08:28 PM
There is a Ruth and one other common, I believe. The common was quite low grade as I remember it. Lets add another uniquely known card to the mix...

Yeah Leon. Here is the other common.

4815162342
11-06-2013, 09:14 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintchancebk.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/mellomintfrankchance.jpg



TED Z

That's a great card Ted - please let me know if you decide to part with it!

Cerberus
11-06-2013, 09:38 PM
How about the T51 Murad (1910):

tedzan
11-07-2013, 07:19 AM
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/W600xMattySGC.jpg



T-Rex TED
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

DEVORE....FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

tedzan
11-07-2013, 02:28 PM
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/akottonchase.jpg.http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bkottonchase.jpg



T-Rex TED
__________________________________________________ ______________________________________
LOOKING for these 5 - T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 red HINDU sub-set (12 subjects)

FORD....GANDIL....McGRAW (glove)....PFEFFER....SHECKARD (glove)

bbpostcards
11-07-2013, 03:43 PM
Here's the first page...

Hankphenom
11-07-2013, 04:01 PM
The Helmars (the real ones!) look great like that.

tedzan
11-08-2013, 06:41 AM
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/a1950drakes4.jpg
TED Z

Brian Van Horn
11-08-2013, 01:48 PM
.

joeadcock
11-09-2013, 07:48 PM
Brian, not enough of a variety there(ha ha)