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needmore
10-15-2013, 10:32 AM
I have about a half dozen nice vintage cards (1950s and 1960s) I have bought over the past few years in BGS holders. I'm thinking about going exclusively SGC with the best cards in my collection. Should I send them to SGC to reslab or just sell and rebuy them again? Have you ever sent in PSA or BVG cards to SGC? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

brewing
10-15-2013, 05:07 PM
This is my experience.

Bvg 4.5 1956 mantle freed sent to psa, didn't meet size requirements, sent to SGC, it's now a 3.5

Bvg 3 1951 mantle, sent to SGC in bvg slab, it's now a 2

Bvg 3 1949 Campanella, freed sent to SGC, it's now a 3.

Bvg 8 1980 Henderson, freed sent to sgc, it's now a 7.

BGS 8.5 fleer Gwynn, freed, it's now a sgc 9.

Have a 1961 Fleer Ted Williams bvg 6, I wouldn't think of sending to sgc.

My opinion is Beckett is gracious in the post war to 1980 era.

SGC will grade accordingly.

needmore
10-16-2013, 06:05 AM
Thanks for the examples - very interesting!

pawpawdiv9
10-16-2013, 08:48 AM
Have you thought about cracking them out, then submitting that way.
And let the grader determine it himself, than be giving them a clue what the competiton gave it.

Gr8Beldini
10-17-2013, 07:58 AM
Have you thought about cracking them out, then submitting that way.
And let the grader determine it himself, than be giving them a clue what the competiton gave it.

That's what I'd do. I have a flawless 61 Koufax. A grade of PSA 9 was assumed when I sent it in a few years back. It came back a 7, which astounded me (psa didn't do half grades at the time). I am absolutely certain the so-so grade was the result of the standard "red feather" print mark to the left of Sandy's face. The grader didn't know that EVERY 61 Koufax has that mark. My mistake was to resubmit it to SGC in the 7 holder. The grader gave it a 7.5. While the practice is somewhat subjective, I am an expert on grading cards. This Koufax is going to be cracked open, and be submitted with a note about the "red feather"... I'm not going to assume the grader knows about it. It will absolutely come back no worse that 8.5; probably 9.

the 'stache
10-24-2013, 03:27 AM
Cracking Beckett slabs makes me nervous. Those things could survive a nuclear bomb. If it were a SGC or a PSA slab, I could see popping it and submitting it au natural. But you better have some goggles and a jackhammer if you're going to try popping a Beckett.

If you're crossing over for aesthetics, a drop of a half grade shouldn't matter. If there's a chance you're looking to sell, I'd leave it as is. By the time you factor in the cost to cross it over, ship it and insure it, you're eating into your profit margin unless you are absolutely certain it will cross over successfully. But SGC is going to be harder than Beckett when it comes ti vintage.