October pickups

[GrayGhost]

Nothing special, but love this image of Ty and his Brother, before Ty went off to ST w the A's for the first time.

[sicollector1954]

Picked up a his/hers Andy Frain ushers uniforms....know they were used in the 60's at Wrigley....don't know how long after that......thought they were unique and haven't ever seen any for sale before...

[dell webb]

Picture and trophy cup from the 1904 Lazarus Clippers Base Ball Club. Trophy says Ohio State Journal Trophy Champion Base Ball Club. The players' names are listed on the trophy. The picture is 19X23" as framed and the trophy is 10.5" tall. My picture quality is poor as usual.

[slidekellyslide]

Got this last week from a woman who contacted a local auction house to try and sell it...they referred her to me! 1953-61 Lincoln Chiefs jersey...George Noga, the manager in 1961 was the last Chief to wear the #4, this might have been his....lots of players wore #4 from 53-61, but none were big names.

[nebboy]

Lincoln Chiefs jersey---- WOW very nice local piece!!!!

[ksfarmboy]

Outstanding Dan! You deserve it buddy. The perfect collection for it.

[perezfan]

Beautiful and classy Jersey, Dan...

I just love those classic 1940s and '50s zip-fronts.

Congrats :D

[Exhibitman]

My daughter is a dancer so I was very pleased to find this 1955 contract for The Nicholas Brothers signed by Fayard Nicholas:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/Nicholas_%20Fayard%20signed%20contract.jpg

For those who don't know them, the Nicholas Brothers were probably the greatest dancers in motion picture history. From Wikipedia: "A signature move was to leapfrog down a long, broad flight of stairs, while completing each step with a split. Its most famous performance formed the finale of the movie, Stormy Weather. Fred Astaire once told the brothers that the "Jumpin' Jive" dance number in Stormy Weather was the greatest movie musical sequence he had ever seen. ... Gregory Hines declared that if their biography were ever filmed, their dance numbers would have to be computer generated because no one now could emulate them. Ballet legend Mikhail Baryshnikov once called them the most amazing dancers he had ever seen in his life."

http://classicmoviechat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nicholas-bros-jumpin-jive-cab_calloway.jpg

Also obtained this 1957 Superman fan club PC with great DC Comic advertising on the back:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/large/1957%20George%20Reeves%20Superman%20Advertising%20 PC.jpg

And this proof matchcover for 20th Century Fox, circa 1930s:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/large/Matchcover%2020th%20Century%20Fox%20proof.jpg

[bobfreedman]

Two iconic Type 1 images

[Dave Grob]

This is a rare two year style. I don't know of any other surviving uniforms of this Hall of Famer. The only other example of this style that I know of is the Walter Johnson road at Cooperstown. Have the pants that go with this as well.

I had a replica short bill made cap to display with this. The uniform is currently at the MEARS Museum, but is not yet on display.

Dave Grob
DaveGrob1@aol.com

[Scott Garner]

This is a rare two year style. I don't know of any other surviving uniforms of this Hall of Famer. The only other example of this style that I know of is the Walter Johnson road at Cooperstown. Have the pants that go with this as well.

I had a replica short bill made cap to display with this. The uniform is currently at the MEARS Museum, but is not yet on display.

Dave Grob
DaveGrob1@aol.com

Wow! What an incredible uniform to own Dave.
Congrats on a world class pickup! :cool:

[ksfarmboy]

Amazing Dave, that's one cool and rare jersey. Thanks for sharing.

[Forever Young]

Two iconic Type 1 images

Great pickups everyone. Love the koufaxi pickups Bob. Do I sense a long term theme or just a short lived binge on Koufax?

[bobfreedman]

He is one of my favorite players and opportunity came back to back.

[Forever Young]

He is one of my favorite players and opportunity came back to back.

The second one is a monster phto and used for a topps card I believe(maybe 1964??). Great additions!

[bobfreedman]

Yes, it was his 1964 "Koufax Strikes out 15" card. It is such an iconic picture of him.

[prewarsports]

For as popular as he was, quality Koufax images are actually pretty tough to find. Those are both beautiful examples Bob.

Rhys

[packs]

I'm on the Koufax train too:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m294/madjams/Koufax.jpg

[gnaz01]

Just got back from framer

[bobfreedman]

Awesome Pick up Greg!

[GKreindler]

BEAUTIFUL frame job, Greg.

[ksfarmboy]

This has to be one of the better pick up threads we've had in quite some time. The variety and quality is outstanding on every one them. Congrats to all on outstanding additions.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Great piece, Greg!

[Dave Grob]

Not a gamer, but still a great uniform related item in my book. What I love about these is that Carey actually applied for and received a patent for this design. Patent number awarded to Carey is 1,641,318 and dated September 6th, 1927. Plan is to display these, a copy of the patent information at the MEARS Museum. We are still working on our Pirates exhibit so it will probably not be until 2014 that we add this team.

Dave Grob
DaveGrob1@aol.com

[lefty147]

My wife and I got back from a week long trip to the Clearwater, Fl area and took a side trip to purchase a pretty large collection of bats, gloves, uniforms and photos. Spent our 25th anniversary day doing it. 95% of the bats are 1940's and earlier. Mike

[ramram]

Just added this guy to my scorebook collection. It contains all of the 1915 World Series games between the Red Sox and Phillies. Most importantly it has 20 year old Babe Ruth's first World Series appearance. The Red Sox were pretty loaded that year, winning the World Series 4 games to 1, so Ruth only had one appearance in the Series - batting as a pinch hitter in the ninth inning of game one in the Sox only loss. The Phillies won this game 3-1 with Grover Cleveland Alexander out dueling Ernie Shore.

This scorebook was likely either kept by a Philadelphia reporter or a team official. In addition to the scorekeeping, there are notes regarding the attendance as well as the gate receipts. It also has several of the Phillies pre-season games from Florida prior to the 1917 season.

Rob M.

116732

116734

116733

[Lordstan]

I have been looking for one of these for a while. I see them up on ebay about 1 per year, but always seem to either forget or just miss out pulling the trigger.

1933 Black's Annual

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=229&pictureid=12374

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=229&pictureid=12375

[brookdodger55]

Two iconic Type 1 images

Awesome pictures Bob

[BigJJ]

Just got back from framer

Awesome piece and equally awesome frame

[GrayGhost]

Just cause it looks cool. Las Vegas Stars early 90s GU Jersey, compliments of Dave's resale shop here on the board. An honest, friendly dealer

[Augy44]

I was lucky enough to pick up this photo recently. IMO, one of the FINEST Babe Ruth & Lou Gehrig photos in existence! It is an 8x10 large, Original Silver-Gelatin photo and offers absolutely stunning clarity taken just prior to the 1927 World Series. It has been used multiple times over the decades passed and is really cool to see that it was used in 1961 to publicize when Roger Maris broke Ruth's homerun record! It has some paper loss around the edges but the central image of Ruth & Gehrig is pristine still has its original caption attached to the reverse!

[Shoeless Moe]

Perhaps one of the more under-rated players in terms of memorabilia appeal, Rogers Hornsby, but the guys numbers are sickening. .358 lifetime BA over a 23 year career. During his age 28 season in 1924 he hit .424!!! with 25 home runs, and then followed it up the following year stumbling to a .403 BA with 39 HRs and 143 RBI. What kind a contract would those numbers bring these days?

A little more than the $90 dollars a month he made with this Texas team.

This nearly 9 x 7 original photo dates to 1914 or 1915 just prior to joining the St Louis Cardinals, here on the Denison Railroaders.

I'd like to get a look at the back of the photo but its affixed to a vintage cardboard backing.

[Augy44]

That is a great photo Paul! Hornsby been would've been making close to what Cano currently wants, that's for sure...

[Shoeless Moe]

And those who know me, know I love the chase as much as the catch.....this photo didn't even mention Rogers Hornsby in the title on Ebay, listed as:

"Rare Antique Dennison Railroaders Infield Baseball Photograph"

Paid a mere $100 bucks (even used a $10 off ebay coupon to bring it under $100) for what could possibly be Rogers Hornsby earliest piece of memorabilia.

Been searching past auctions of Legendary, Hunts etc. can't find anything of his from 1915 or earlier prior to joining the Cardinals late in 1915.

[baseball tourist]

My wife and I got back from a week long trip to the Clearwater, Fl area and took a side trip to purchase a pretty large collection of bats, gloves, uniforms and photos. Spent our 25th anniversary day doing it. 95% of the bats are 1940's and earlier. Mike

Awesome group Mike! Pls let me know if you are coin to move any of the bats and/or uniforms. Chris

[sayhey24]

Yes Mike, that could be one of the biggest and best hauls we've ever had here on a pickup thread!

Greg

[Lordstan]

I was lucky enough to pick up this photo recently. IMO, one of the FINEST Babe Ruth & Lou Gehrig photos in existence! It is an 8x10 large, Original Silver-Gelatin photo and offers absolutely stunning clarity taken just prior to the 1927 World Series. It has been used multiple times over the decades passed and is really cool to see that it was used in 1961 to publicize when Roger Maris broke Ruth's homerun record! It has some paper loss around the edges but the central image of Ruth & Gehrig is pristine still has its original caption attached to the reverse!

Bryan,
Congrats.
It is a spectacular photo.
Best,
Mark

[bcbgcbrcb]

Great pick-up on the Denison photo, Paul. It would make a great companion piece to my team RPPC.

[lefty147]

Awesome group Mike! Pls let me know if you are coin to move any of the bats and/or uniforms. Chris

I am very slowly going through them and getting pictures. Mike

[Scott Garner]

I recently picked up this 1939 vintage Johnny Vander Meer Black's Annual.
These have to be fairly scarce because I've never come across one of them.

[ramram]

Just picked this up. It's from a photo album that contained a team photo that had been cut to make a photo collage. I believe this is the 1934 Cleveland Red Sox of the Negro National League.

Rob M.

117189

117190

[johnmh71]

Just added this guy to my scorebook collection. It contains all of the 1915 World Series games between the Red Sox and Phillies. Most importantly it has 20 year old Babe Ruth's first World Series appearance. The Red Sox were pretty loaded that year, winning the World Series 4 games to 1, so Ruth only had one appearance in the Series - batting as a pinch hitter in the ninth inning of game one in the Sox only loss. The Phillies won this game 3-1 with Grover Cleveland Alexander out dueling Ernie Shore.

This scorebook was likely either kept by a Philadelphia reporter or a team official. In addition to the scorekeeping, there are notes regarding the attendance as well as the gate receipts. It also has several of the Phillies pre-season games from Florida prior to the 1917 season.

Rob M.



Rob:

As an avid Red Sox collector, I find this to be an awesome item. Most likely it was someone that worked for the Phillies. Where did you find it?

John

[ramram]

Rob:

As an avid Red Sox collector, I find this to be an awesome item. Most likely it was someone that worked for the Phillies. Where did you find it?

John


Hey John,

I picked it up from another collector who previously had it for a decade or two.

Rob M.

[Runscott]

Hey John,

I picked it up from another collector who previously had it for a decade or two.

Rob M.

Great pickups Rob!

[murphusa]

I don't remember the rules about this sort of thing showing an auction before it is over but this is a nice looking item

good luck to the winning bidder

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Antique-1884-Silver-Presentation-Baseball-Amateur-Baseball-Award-Trophy-/221293166454?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item338619bf76

[yanks12025]

I don't remember the rules about this sort of thing showing an auction before it is over but this is a nice looking item

good luck to the winning bidder

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Antique-1884-Silver-Presentation-Baseball-Amateur-Baseball-Award-Trophy-/221293166454?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item338619bf76

Is it even real?

[perezfan]

The general rule is to post your thoughts after the auction has ended. Outing auctions via the Internet is considered by most to be a no-no.

[doug.goodman]

I don't remember the rules about this sort of thing showing an auction before it is over but this is a nice looking item

There are no rules.

Potential buyers, who have already seen the auction, hate it.

Potential buyers, who would have missed the auction, love it.

Sellers love it.

[Scott Garner]

There are no rules.

Potential buyers, who have already seen the auction, hate it.

Potential buyers, who would have missed the auction, love it.

Sellers love it.

Ain't this the truth! ;)

[BigJJ]

The general rule is to post your thoughts after the auction has ended. Outing auctions via the Internet is considered by most to be a no-no.

Agree with Mark.

Jim, you're limited to a single hotdog at the National next year. :)

Brock, I agree. I feel like I've seen plain silver balls like that, that could be antique silver plated and engraved. And that box strikes me as odd.

I wish I had bought that lemonpeel silver presentation ball on ebay last year with the Minnesota Indian motif. Really upset I didn't buy that and have been on the lookout for 19th century silver presentation balls since. But this one I'm not going for. If anyone has such pieces, please reach out via PM.

[BigJJ]

I just remembered where I've seen plain balls like that in silver from the 19th cent - the Chinese silver hand balls for exercising your hand. Can come silver plated, or can have plated in antique silver, and engrave.

[Scott Garner]

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[johnmh71]

Hey John,

I picked it up from another collector who previously had it for a decade or two.

Rob M.

Well you definitely scored a nice pickup. Congratulations.

[murphusa]

[QUOTE=BigJJ;1192717]Agree with Mark.

Jim, you're limited to a single hotdog at the National next year. :)
QUOTE]



Sorry but I don’t usually use :(:eek::cool::p;):rolleyes::):o:D ,

I was being sarcastic!

[UnVme7]

Got my 5 Giancarlo Stanton game used bats today. Unfortunately, the game used section is currently down for now, so I figured I'd post these here.

I'm sure some of these were used for a HR, just haven't had the chance to check.

[UnVme7]

Pic 2

[perezfan]

Got my 5 Giancarlo Stanton game used bats today. Unfortunately, the game used section is currently down for now, so I figured I'd post these here.

I'm sure some of these were used for a HR, just haven't had the chance to check.

The Game-used section is now gone (and is assimilated into here). So you posted in the right place :)

Great Bats... are you keeping all 5 Giancarlo Bats, or do you buy for resale?

[UnVme7]

The Game-used section is now gone (and is assimilated into here). So you posted in the right place :)

Great Bats... are you keeping all 5 Giancarlo Bats, or do you buy for resale?

Thank you! Nope, I usually buy to keep. I think I have 4 others, so 9 total of his. All authenticated, all the same brand except for 1, which is an LS and photomatched.

[CarltonHendricks]

The general rule is to post your thoughts after the auction has ended. Outing auctions via the Internet is considered by most to be a no-no.

I completely agree with Mark...There's no official rule I know of but it's a professional courtesy paid to fellow collectors...Like Mark says...after the auction it's fine...

[murphusa]

Well then someone should tell the autograph guys

[slidekellyslide]

Well then someone should tell the autograph guys

Tell them what? Not to out auctions? Why did you post the trophy ball in the pick up thread? Is there something I missed?

[GaryPassamonte]

Antioch College team. Purportedly the first team to play Cincinnati on 1869, although there is some debate. Great pose and great period notations.

[aquarius31]

Gary, that is an absolutely beautiful CDV and even more amazing with the player names and positions....congrats!!

[GaryPassamonte]

Thanks, George.
I just noticed that the writing on the reverse is not all in the same hand. Is it possible each player signed his own name, hometown, and position? That would be a first for me.

[MGHPro]

Fantastic image!

[repsher]

Some of my most recent pickups:


Lou Gehrig making a putout on Goose Goslin 8/15/34. ACME

117472

Lou making a putout on Mel Ott in the 8th inning in the 4th game of the 1936 WS. ACME

117471

Mickey Cochrane 1931. ACME

117469

Sam Rice 1934. AL Service Bureau.

117470

[HRBAKER]

Gehringer 1940

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/BST/chasg001_zpsa856fb43.jpg

[GKreindler]

GREAT shot of Gehringer! He had a great look about him.

Graig

[UnVme7]

All 4 game used bats have been signed:

1994 Rawlings Edgar Martinez game used bat
Pudge Rodriguez game used bat
1986-89 Ivan Calderon game used bat (dec'd)
1965-68 John Felske game used bat. - Tough 1968 Cubs bat for that person looking to get a player that only played in 4 games that year.

[UnVme7]

Pic 2...

[earlywynnfan]

Super-happy with this. According the prevailing knowledge, Hanna TA Models were gamers only, and the weight on the knob cements it. Surprised the bat guys let me win this!

Ken

[UnVme7]

1934-42 Gilly Campbell game used bat
1921-29 Jimmie Zinn game used bat
1922-27 Pat McNulty game used bat
1921-28 Johnny Mokan game used bat
1950-51 Buddy Rosar game used bat

[UnVme7]

Pic 2..

[Scott Garner]

I just picked up an obscure original 1938 All Star game art print featuring Reds' lefty hurler Johnny Vander Meer and the Indians' RHP Bob Feller.
Both OH young guns appeared in the midsummer classic that year, with Vander Meer ending up getting the start as well as the win.

The print's dimensions are 12.5" x 14.5". It was printed on heavy-weight, photo quality paper stock shortly after the '38 All Star game at Crosley Field, and was recently discovered by a picker (think TV's American Pickers). It was part of the estate of the long time resident and former mayor of Defiance, OH. Considering it's age, it's in incredible shape. I would doubt that many of these survived the last 75 years.

Here are a few photos of the piece as well as the typed notice that originally accompanied the print.

If anyone has any more details on where these originated from, I would appreciate the help.

[sayhey24]

Nate --

That's a nice group of bats -- do they fit a theme in your collection, or did you just buy them because they're nice?

Greg

[UnVme7]

Nate --

That's a nice group of bats -- do they fit a theme in your collection, or did you just buy them because they're nice?

Greg

Thanks! No real theme, I just really like the bats of the 20's and 30's. The McNulty and Zinn are actually side written. You can still see the shipping label on the Zinn bat next to his name, but unfortunately, none of it can be read on either bat....

[eastonfalcon19]

Here are some pieces I picked up this morning at a Flea Market.

[eastonfalcon19]

Fatima Advertisement.

[perezfan]

I just picked up an obscure original 1938 All Star game art print featuring Reds' lefty hurler Johnny Vander Meer and the Indians' RHP Bob Feller.
Both OH young guns appeared in the midsummer classic that year, with Vander Meer ending up getting the start as well as the win.

The print's dimensions are 12.5" x 14.5". It was printed on heavy-weight, photo quality paper stock shortly after the '38 All Star game at Crosley Field, and was recently discovered by a picker (think TV's American Pickers). It was part of the estate of the long time resident and former mayor of Defiance, OH. Considering it's age, it's in incredible shape. I would doubt that many of these survived the last 75 years.

Here are a few photos of the piece as well as the typed notice that originally accompanied the print.

If anyone has any more details on where these originated from, I would appreciate the help.

Great acquisition, Scott...

Never seen one of those, and guessing it's insanely rare. The artwork is amazing, as is the image of Feller and Vandy. It's incredible to see all of the unique and different pieces that fit within your "No Hitter" collecting theme.

[Scott Garner]

Thanks Mark!
I'd have to agree with you that very few of these exist at this point. I know I've never seen one before...

[sayhey24]

Ken,

I love that bat you posted -- I know it's not like the old days when dealers insisted all those bats were gamers, but that's still a very nice one!

Greg

[UnVme7]

2002 Adrian Beltre game used bat
2001 Adrian Beltre game used bat
2001-02 Adrian Beltre game used bat

All come with PSA letters, but would've gladly purchased them regardless.

[UnVme7]

Pic 2

[Big Six]

Hard to resist picking up another Ian Stewart jersey for $60...still time for this guy to stay healthy and be an asset to some team...

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/miscellaneous/13657/2011-stewart-rockies-ahttp://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/BigSix/miscellaneous/13658/2011-stewart-rockies-b

[mcgwirecom]

Picked up a nice Ernie Banks 500th homerun stub.

[Scott Garner]

Picked up a nice Ernie Banks 500th homerun stub.

Nice pickup, Randall!!
Not only is that a tough ticket, it also appears to be in great shape. Congrats!

[earlywynnfan]

1950's Ray Boone gamer, heavy use!

Ken

[sayhey24]

Ken --

The hits just keep on coming!

Greg

[WillowGrove]

Don't have it in hand yet but have love this ever since seeing one in Mark Cooper's book. Figured this one is in nice shape so I'll go for it. Hope you like....

[Runscott]

Old uniform with pillbox hat

[WillowGrove]

Old uniform with pillbox hat

i think you got that for a fair price today Scott. Congratulations. really cool.

[Runscott]

i think you got that for a fair price today Scott. Congratulations. really cool.

Thanks Peter. I used to collect pre-wwi uniforms and this type of collar is kind of tough. And the hat is even tougher.

[earlywynnfan]

Ken --

The hits just keep on coming!

Greg

Thanks! Nowhere close to your collection, but I'm happy.

Ken

[WillowGrove]

:DThanks Peter. I used to collect pre-wwi uniforms and this type of collar is kind of tough. And the hat is even tougher.

such an intersting thing to collect. Im not an expert but is the cap style earlier than the uni?

[vintagesportflips]

Hi Scott,
Sorry to be the bearer of bizarre and bad news. I attended the auction in person - it was actually at an auction house I've been attending auctions at very frequently over the years, and they very rarely have this kind of high quality sports stuff. I think it is also the first time they ever used live auctioneers, because they seemed very confused with the bidding process. The bad news is that I won the uniform as a live bidder at the auction. I outbid the internet bidder (which I am guessing was you), and the other bidders on the floor. The odd thing is, I had also registered on liveauctioneers too in case I couldn't get out of work on time, and when I view the auction now, they show the high bid price being $50 less than the price I paid. I am assuming this is a result of them having no previous experience with live auctioneers, and hopefully they didn't do this with other lots. Again, sorry to pass along this news.

[GrayGhost]

Hi Scott,
Sorry to be the bearer of bizarre and bad news. I attended the auction in person - it was actually at an auction house I've been attending auctions at very frequently over the years, and they very rarely have this kind of high quality sports stuff. I think it is also the first time they ever used live auctioneers, because they seemed very confused with the bidding process. The bad news is that I won the uniform as a live bidder at the auction. I outbid the internet bidder (which I am guessing was you), and the other bidders on the floor. The odd thing is, I had also registered on liveauctioneers too in case I couldn't get out of work on time, and when I view the auction now, they show the high bid price being $50 less than the price I paid. I am assuming this is a result of them having no previous experience with live auctioneers, and hopefully they didn't do this with other lots. Again, sorry to pass along this news.

What kind of a mess is this? How can u make this type of mistake? This is very unfair to Scott IMO. But, if u r the high bid, you are entitled to it. That auction house needs to get their act together

[vintagesportflips]

I know, I feel terrible making the post. Imagine my surprise when I sat down at the computer, and saw it on the October pickup thread. There were some very high value cards sold at the auction; I hope they didn't repeat the mistake. Once is bad enough though.

[Runscott]

I placed a bid. They gave fair warning and ended it with my bid winning. They sent me an invoice later today, and I contacted a shipper - all as it should have occurred. If someone else had placed a higher bid, I would have been notified and could have bid again. I certainly would not have been sent an invoice.

[perezfan]

I had a similar experience with Hunts recently. Their Internet Site indicated I was the high bidder, yet the lot went to a live bidder (and sold for hundreds less than my ceiling bid).

A mess indeed... Can anyone post a link to this particular auction?

[tjb1952tjb]

I recently picked up this 1939 vintage Johnny Vander Meer Black's Annual.
These have to be fairly scarce because I've never come across one of them.

Same photo used for Vandy's 1941 Play Ball card:

[Scott Garner]

Same photo used for Vandy's 1941 Play Ball card:

Hi Tim,
You are indeed correct!

[vintagesportflips]

Scott,
You obviously didn't do anything wrong, but I wanted to let you know before you paid the invoice, and then had to go through an ordeal to get a refund. The auction house really should have had a test run with liveauctioneers before selling such an expensive sports collection. Mark, here is a link to the auction:
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/45212_1930s-sports-card-sale-fine-art-and-antiques/page1

[Forever Young]

Scott,
You obviously didn't do anything wrong, but I wanted to let you know before you paid the invoice, and then had to go through an ordeal to get a refund. The auction house really should have had a test run with liveauctioneers before selling such an expensive sports collection. Mark, here is a link to the auction:
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/45212_1930s-sports-card-sale-fine-art-and-antiques/page1

So are you saying you already paid for the piece and have it in hand?

[vintagesportflips]

Yes, Ben. I sent Scott a private message too. I was at the auction, won the item, paid, and have it. It was not until last night before I went to sleep, that I saw Scott's post. Then I saw the live auction website that lists the winning bid for the bid under mine.

[Forever Young]

Yes, Ben. I sent Scott a private message too. I was at the auction, won the item, paid, and have it. It was not until last night before I went to sleep, that I saw Scott's post. Then I saw the live auction website that lists the winning bid for the bid under mine.

Wow.. That is not good. Great example, however, of why net54 is valuable and not just a stomping ground for crazies with agendas. Without this communication, Scott would have paid and it would have got really ugly. It also holds the auction joys accountable for their mistake. I feel bad, as you clearly do as well, for Scotty here. If I was the consigner, I would be pissed too as it no doubt cost them money(unless your two bids were both caps which I find very unlikely). It's too bad. Technology is great...only if you know how to use it.

[Runscott]

Wow.. That is not good. Great example, however, of why net54 is valuable and not just a stomping ground for crazies with agendas. Without this communication, Scott would have paid and it would have got really ugly. It also holds the auction joys accountable for their mistake. I feel bad, as you clearly do as well, for Scotty here. If I was the consigner, I would be pissed too as it no doubt cost them money(unless your two bids were both caps which I find very unlikely). It's too bad. Technology is great...only if you know how to use it.

I had planned to go to $1,200 on the item, but of course I stopped bidding when I was told that I had won the item. Wilson's has still not contacted me to cancel the invoice - not sure what they would do if I actually paid it.

The consignor should definitely get some recompense from the auction house, as they were clearly incompetent in how they handled his item.

[yanks12025]

And what's so special about this jersey? Looks like all the other no one heard of them old jerseys that sell on eBay for less than $500 a lot of times.

[Runscott]

And what's so special about this jersey? Looks like all the other no one heard of them old jerseys that sell on eBay for less than $500 a lot of times.

You mean the other ones that come with pillbox hats?

[WillowGrove]

You mean the other ones that come with pillbox hats?


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[perezfan]

In the retail/dealer world, the Hat alone is worth 2 - 3 times the hammer price.

[Runscott]

In the retail/dealer world, the Hat alone is worth 2 - 3 times the hammer price.

It's interesting to me that no one seems all that concerned that bidding and winning in an online auction, then having your winnings delivered to a different person, is something that has just occurred to a forum member, meaning that it's something that could easily happen to you. Would you just say, "oh well, no biggy"?

Not really looking for any additional support - just thought that if Wilson's is worth advertising, then it's also worth talking about what a farce they are.

I'll wait until after resolution (or non-resolution), as I'm still discussing with them, and then I'll start a new thread about this auction house, which at the moment I don't think deserves any additional participation from any of us.

[yanks12025]

It's interesting to me that no one seems all that concerned that bidding and winning in an online auction, then having your winnings delivered to a different person, is something that has just occurred to a forum member, meaning that it's something that could easily happen to you. Would you just say, "oh well, no biggy"?

Not really looking for any additional support - just thought that if Wilson's is worth advertising, then it's also worth talking about what a farce they are.

I'll wait until after resolution (or non-resolution), as I'm still discussing with them, and then I'll start a new thread about this auction house, which at the moment I don't think deserves any additional participation from any of us.

I would call it mistakes happen in life, I guess people cant be perfect like you expect. What do you want them to do, get the item back and give it to you?

[murphusa]

Wilson's is an auction house about 15 miles outside of Philly. Their main business is in furniture and box lots of household stuff.

In the past 20 years thay have gotten about 5 or 6 sports collections as part of the overall household or estate they were selling.

It has always been my feeling when bidding there in person, that your attempts to bid are over looked in favor of their friends and or regulars.

They have a tough time with left bids on most nights so the thought that they could run a live and Internet auction at the same time is beyond me.

About 15 years ago a 206 Plank walked out the building on them 5 minutes before the item was to be sold

Sports is not their ball game.

Sorry Scott.

[Runscott]

I would call it mistakes happen in life, I guess people cant be perfect like you expect. What do you want them to do, get the item back and give it to you?

I guess not. Thanks for more of your sage advice. After your wise ass, yet uninformed remark regarding the price the item, I should not be surprised that you are fine with auction houses double-selling items.

[yanks12025]

I guess not. Thanks for more of your sage advice. After your wise ass, yet uninformed remark regarding the price the item, I should not be surprised that you are fine with auction houses double-selling items.

If they constantly double sell items, than yes it's wrong. But considering another member stated it was their first time doing online auctions, I understand that maybe a mistake could happen.

[perezfan]

It's interesting to me that no one seems all that concerned that bidding and winning in an online auction, then having your winnings delivered to a different person, is something that has just occurred to a forum member, meaning that it's something that could easily happen to you. Would you just say, "oh well, no biggy"?

Not really looking for any additional support - just thought that if Wilson's is worth advertising, then it's also worth talking about what a farce they are.

I'll wait until after resolution (or non-resolution), as I'm still discussing with them, and then I'll start a new thread about this auction house, which at the moment I don't think deserves any additional participation from any of us.

Well FWIW, I will never bid or consign with them. The boycott has begun :mad:

[MGHPro]

I ran the software for live auctioneers when I was working for an auction house. I sold an item to the internet but the auctioneer overlooked the bid I was submitting and sold it to the floor even though Live auctioneers showed it selling to the internet. Mistakes happen but I would still be angry
Matt

[Runscott]

If they constantly double sell items, than yes it's wrong. But considering another member stated it was their first time doing online auctions, I understand that maybe a mistake could happen.

Brock, I have to apologize for my response to you. I do understand that mistakes happen, and I definitely do not expect perfection.

In closing out my comments about Wilson's, I'll say that I have received quite a few PM's and emails regarding both Wilson's and other fly-by-night auction houses that have attempted unsuccessfully to merge online bidding with live, and apparently it's pretty much a cluster-fvck for a lot of them.

So basically, if you are going to bid with auction houses like this, don't get too excited when you get the message that you have won, or even when you receive an invoice. It could all be a mirage, and they are NOT going to work with you to resolve. Regarding resolution, I'm fairly sure they violated a legally-binding contract. Regardless, the procurer of the item offered it to me for $500 more than my winning total, which would have meant a quick profit for him, although it would have been much less than he will get by selling either here or on the internet, and it would have allowed me to own a pillbox hat, which is what I really wanted.

I had to hesitate on accepting his offer, as I felt that it was actually Wilson's job to procure the lot from him, at whatever expense they were required to, and then to sell it to me for $944. That isn't going to happen without some sort of legal action on my part, and it isn't worth it. Yes, mistakes happen, but such lackadaisical conducting of legally-binding transactions needs to be stopped now - if it doesn't stop, with a bit of repercussion to places such as Wilson's, then these horror stories that I'm hearing via PM and email will continue to occur. Basically, if they don't experience some pain for their failures, there is no incentive for them to work harder. The only pain I can really administer is my posting on this board, so thanks for putting up with it.

Keith - I left my phone number with you yesterday and hoping to hear from you. Thanks for your handling of this, as of course you did absolutely nothing wrong. I also heard from Vernon of Wilson's who told me he would locate the lot to me and sell it to me for the invoice price, after talking with the auctioneer. Obviously the left hand is not talking with the right, and the brain is even more out of the picture, but from now on those problems will not involve me.

[UnVme7]

I think at the end of the day, mistakes happen, and I get that. But in this particular situation, the auction house needs to make it right for both parties. After all, it was their mistake.

[GrayGhost]

Not a baseball item, but forgive me, and will be for sale soon.

Not some junk souvenir from the stadium, etc.

Super REAL Super Bowl 25th anniversary Florida License plate. You had to pay special w DMV to get these, and they only become available when retired.

This was the Giants vs Bills Super bowl also, The "Norwood missed kick" game.

[vintagesportflips]

I just spoke with Scott; He's a very nice guy, and we were able to come to an agreement to send the uniform his way.
I wanted to clarify his comments on me offering him the jersey. It turns out that we both went into the auction with the same max price in mind. I went to the auction with a $1200 to $1300 limit in mind, and Scott told me he had set a $1200 limit for himself. Going in I didn't know if I'd have to pay that, but with the online portion, and the number of big time buyers in the room, I thought there was a good chance. At the end of the day, I was buying to resell (I am a diehard collector, but not of baseball items), and Scott was buying for his own collection. With that in mind, I offered it to him at the total that either of us would have had to pay by winning it at $1200.00. It is a great uniform, and I would have loved to have it until someday I sold it, but I am glad at the end of the day Scott is ending up with it.

[GrayGhost]

That takes care of that

[Scott Garner]

Keith,
You're a stud! That's a very nice gesture on your part.
Scott, I'm glad it all worked out... :D

[Joe_G.]

Glad the jersey mess has been resolved on good old Net54.

Here is a scorecard I picked up earlier this month. I have a nice little collection of Detroit Wolverine scorecards, but this is the first from Detroit's home, Recreation Park. It is only the 2nd example I've seen over the last decade, the only one scored. Being a small market team (pre auto-industry), Detroit's home attendance wasn't quite as good as on the road and it seems as though baseball memorabilia and collections didn't survive at the same rate as those on the East coast. At any rate, I'm glad to have this keepsake from July 26th, 1887. Pete Conway would lose 8-1 to Chicago but did manage to hit a homerun which would be the only Detroit offense for the day. Perhaps the most remarkable feat of the game was the fact that Clarkson, Chicago's pitcher, also hit a homerun.

[Forever Young]

I just spoke with Scott; He's a very nice guy, and we were able to come to an agreement to send the uniform his way.
I wanted to clarify his comments on me offering him the jersey. It turns out that we both went into the auction with the same max price in mind. I went to the auction with a $1200 to $1300 limit in mind, and Scott told me he had set a $1200 limit for himself. Going in I didn't know if I'd have to pay that, but with the online portion, and the number of big time buyers in the room, I thought there was a good chance. At the end of the day, I was buying to resell (I am a diehard collector, but not of baseball items), and Scott was buying for his own collection. With that in mind, I offered it to him at the total that either of us would have had to pay by winning it at $1200.00. It is a great uniform, and I would have loved to have it until someday I sold it, but I am glad at the end of the day Scott is ending up with it.

Isn't Scott Forrest MUCH BETTER IN PERSON/ON THE PHONE?? I mean.. MY GOD!!
Hhahaha... glad you two were able to figure it out like gentleman.

[GrayGhost]

Awesome scorecard Joe:)

[Runscott]

Keith was a great guy about this, but I would not have thought a bit less of him if he had just said "sorry dude - tough luck". For me, this was about getting the secondary AH's to take internet bidding seriously or stay out of it. Keith's selling this to me was a great gesture.

Keith even measured the jersey for me, so I'll wear it for Halloween and post a pic. You really can't imagine how excited I was when I thought I had won it.

[Scott Garner]

Glad the jersey mess has been resolved on good old Net54.

Here is a scorecard I picked up earlier this month. I have a nice little collection of Detroit Wolverine scorecards, but this is the first from Detroit's home, Recreation Park. It is only the 2nd example I've seen over the last decade, the only one scored. Being a small market team (pre auto-industry), Detroit's home attendance wasn't quite as good as on the road and it seems as though baseball memorabilia and collections didn't survive at the same rate as those on the East coast. At any rate, I'm glad to have this keepsake from July 26th, 1887. Pete Conway would lose 8-1 to Chicago but did manage to hit a homerun which would be the only Detroit offense for the day. Perhaps the most remarkable feat of the game was the fact that Clarkson, Chicago's pitcher, also hit a homerun.

HOF John Clarkson hit the homerun. That is a great scorecard!
Thanks for sharing it- congrats!

[sports-rings]

1956 Brooklyn Dodgers National League Champions Ring.

Historic ring, in great condition with proper manufacturer's markings inside. Without a name engraved inside the ring, it's probably a front office ring but could be a player's ring. 4 tiny real diamonds. The Brooklyn Dodgers may have only beaten the Yankees once, but in my opinion, their rings were nicer.

Sorry for the ugly wording on the rings, but many of these photos have been lifted and used at other sites for less than honest reasons.

[Runscott]

1956 Brooklyn Dodgers National League Champions Ring.

Historic ring, in great condition with proper manufacturer's markings inside. Without a name engraved inside the ring, it's probably a front office ring but could be a player's ring. 4 tiny real diamonds. The Brooklyn Dodgers may have only beaten the Yankees once, but in my opinion, their rings were nicer.

Sorry for the ugly wording on the rings, but many of these photos have been lifted and used at other sites for less than honest reasons.

That may be the most beautiful ring I've ever seen. Modern ring designers should take note.

[BigJJ]

Beautiful ring

[39special]

Picked up some pictures for my Brooklyn Dodger collection from a board member.
The first 4 are from a lot of 10 of the Dodgers in Hawaii in 1955.The next
is a shot of Campenella,Dressen,and some other dude.The last one is Duke
Snider,his wife,Charlie Dressen and his wife.

[SikSyko]

That is a beautiful ring.

[BigJJ]

Ive collected for about 30 years and this is the first award or ring I have purchased for mycollection. Its a 1953 Jacksonville Braves South Atlantic League Championship ring. (The players call the league Sally)

The team was led to its championship by a young Hank Aaron who, at age 19, batted .362 with 22 home runs. He was named league MVP. This top play against tremendous adversity. during the season, Aaron was bombarded with heckles and threats and also required by hotels and restaurants to stay and dine apart on the road.

Aaron was called up to play major league baseball for the start of the following season.

The ring was Jim Frey’s, a friend of Aaron's, and who was a star player that year as well, batting .317, though not a powerhouse like Aaron, with 2 homeruns, over 117 games.

[sports-rings]

Big JJ congratulations on a beautiful ring!

Please be careful, ring collecting always starts with 1 ring, and then look out, your hooked!

Congratulations again!

[BigJJ]

Thanks Michael. I spent some time reviewing minor league championship rings and I think of all -

the 1953 Jacksonville Braves with Hank Aaron, and

the 1946 Montreal Royals with Jackie Robinson,

to me are the most desirable, with the aesthetics of the Braves ring being much nicer with a pretty large diamond, clear ruby enamel, and an awesome Brave in profile on the side. Two of the greatest. and both players were MVP, against the backdrop of tremendous challenges that transcend the game. both were called up to MLB directly after. Aarons full story in my opinion has yet to be told. The eyes of the world weren't on Aaron, essentially alone there.

I very much wanted there to be a Joplin Miners ring from 1950, for the Mick, but the team didnt issue rings or other awards.

If anyone has any thoughts or info on other great minor league rings, Id love to learn more.

[Runscott]

Isn't Scott Forrest MUCH BETTER IN PERSON/ON THE PHONE?? I mean.. MY GOD!!
Hhahaha... glad you two were able to figure it out like gentleman.

Yeah, we figured it out. But Wilson's still hasn't - they sent me another invoice this morning for $944. They are upset that I am not paying them! :confused:

Since they don't handle shipping, I sort of get it - I would pay them, then the shipper would have to go find the item, and of course, would not be able to. Then I would be out an extra $944 on top of what I have paid Keith. Wow.

I guess now they will sue me or post my name as a non-paying winning bidder.

[71buc]

Okay I know this is not pre-war, valuable, or interesting to anyone but me. Nonetheless I love it and have never come across another. I am on a tight budget and it cost me the princely sum of $3.00. However I cannot imagine very many of these have survived let alone in this condition. It even has the coupons for a free a cheese burger attached. Every starting member of my beloved 1971 Bucs share tips on baseball. If I had this inside information earlier I probably would have been patrolling the outfield at Three Rivers rather than enjoying the glamour of social work. I took my kids to McDonalds tonight and they were rewarded with a Monster High bucket containing their happy meals. I like my treat more! Thanks for indulging me.

Mike

[Forever Young]

Sorry for the ugly wording on the rings, but many of these photos have been lifted and used at other sites for less than honest reasons.

I do know the feeling... awesome ring. Congrats

[sports-rings]

I do know the feeling... awesome ring. Congrats

If anyone out there wants the original pictures for their own use, let me know. I would happy to email them.

[GrayGhost]

Okay I know this is not pre-war, valuable, or interesting to anyone but me. Nonetheless I love it and have never come across another. I am on a tight budget and it cost me the princely sum of $3.00. However I cannot imagine very many of these have survived let alone in this condition. It even has the coupons for a free a cheese burger attached. Every starting member of my beloved 1971 Bucs share tips on baseball. If I had this inside information earlier I probably would have been patrolling the outfield at Three Rivers rather than enjoying the glamour of social work. I took my kids to McDonalds tonight and they were rewarded with a Monster High bucket containing their happy meals. I like my treat more! Thanks for indulging me.

Mike

Great item and great description:)

[71buc]

Great item and great description:)

Thanks I have just been informed by another member that a large find of these was recently made and it is far from rare. That makes it is a perfect fit for my collection.:)

[horzverti]

Thanks I have just been informed by another member that a large find of these was recently made and it is far from rare. That makes it is a perfect fit for my collection.:)

Rare or not rare, who cares?!...if you love it, then what else matters? :)

[GrayGhost]

Thanks I have just been informed by another member that a large find of these was recently made and it is far from rare. That makes it is a perfect fit for my collection.:)

where? id like one for 3 bucks;)

[Runscott]

This should be arriving tomorrow.

Johnson with head slightly-clipped:

[Scott Garner]

This should be arriving tomorrow.

Johnson with head slightly-clipped:

Nice WaJo, Scott!

[Rob D.]

If anyone has any thoughts or info on other great minor league rings, Id love to learn more.

I've always been partial to the 1986 Stockton Ports. (On a serious note, congrats on adding a great ring to your collection.)

http://photos.imageevent.com/ineedanap/otherphotos/1-750.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ineedanap/otherphotos/3-750.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ineedanap/otherphotos/2-750.jpg

[71buc]

I recently watched a documentary titled The Mexican Suitcase that explored the discovery of long lost Robert Capa, Gerta Taro, and David Seymour negatives shot during the Spanish Civil War. It is a fascinating story. I found it interesting that the 126 rolls of film told stories when viewed as strips. Although there were a number of stunning individual shots the collective narrative was much more compelling. For you photo collectors who may be interested her is a link http://museum.icp.org/mexican_suitcase/.

Since watching that documentary I have been looking for a collection of 35MM film strips that told a story and fit my baseball collection. Earlier this week I purchased a number of such negatives documenting the celebration in downtown Pittsburgh following the 1960 World Series. It is very interesting to view the negatives as a narrative of that day. Here are some of my more favorite images from the collection.

[BigJJ]

I've always been partial to the 1986 Stockton Ports.

Rob, is that you batting .312 on that roster? That is Awesome

[Rob D.]

Lots of seeing-eye singles that season.

[ngrow9]

I was happy to pick up a couple new pieces to add to my Federal League collection this month.

http://www.rmyauctions.com/ItemImages/000000/953a_lg.jpeg

http://www.bcbauctions.com/site/bcbauctionscom/img/dataset/archive/20131010/lg/187a.jpg

[thecatspajamas]

About the only Carl Horner original that would fit in my budget right now. Just a couple of random newlyweds, but at $15, figured it was worth having as an exemplar (with the added bonus of being very unlikely to have been faked).

[slidekellyslide]

Lots of seeing-eye singles that season.

14 triples and 51 stolen bases...you had some serious wheels!

[Runscott]

...

[Scott Garner]

I recently watched a documentary titled The Mexican Suitcase that explored the discovery of long lost Robert Capa, Gerta Taro, and David Seymour negatives shot during the Spanish Civil War. It is a fascinating story. I found it interesting that the 126 rolls of film told stories when viewed as strips. Although there were a number of stunning individual shots the collective narrative was much more compelling. For you photo collectors who may be interested her is a link http://museum.icp.org/mexican_suitcase/.

Since watching that documentary I have been looking for a collection of 35MM film strips that told a story and fit my baseball collection. Earlier this week I purchased a number of such negatives documenting the celebration in downtown Pittsburgh following the 1960 World Series. It is very interesting to view the negatives as a narrative of that day. Here are some of my more favorite images from the collection.

Jackpot Mike!!! Congrats! :)

[Scott Garner]

14 triples and 51 stolen bases...you had some serious wheels!

Jesus Rob, is that true? Yikes! :eek:

[Rob D.]

Jesus Rob, is that true? Yikes! :eek:

That was before I was introduced to City Barbeque.

[Scott Garner]

That was before I was introduced to City Barbeque.

I must admit, City BBQ is good!

[UnVme7]

2007ish Adrian Beltre game used and signed X-bat
2010 Adrian Beltre game used Red Sox bat
2002 Adrian Beltre game used Rawlings bat
2008 Adrian Beltre game used Sam bat
1983 Joe Simpson game used bat
Heinie Sand game used bat- played for Phil in the 20's

[UnVme7]

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[UnVme7]

1983 Dave Schmidt game worn Rangers jersey

[UnVme7]

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[UnVme7]

1988 Albert Hall game worn jersey.

[UnVme7]

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[UnVme7]

Might need a little help on this one. It's a 1982 Giants jersey that I bought thinking it was a Joe Pettini and was then sent down to the minors. Makes sense. But then the great Lon Lewis looked at it in person and it turned out to be all original, no name or number change. So, this means it must be some front office person, instructional coach, etc? Maybe one of you guys from the San Fran area remembers a Parker in '82 from somewhere.

[UnVme7]

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