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DanP
09-16-2013, 05:09 AM
I believe I have the only graded 1922 Witmor Candy George Kelly card (and possibly the only card). Show any card of a HOF'er that you believe could be the only known copy of that card.

If anyone has a card that someone else thinks is a "1 of 1" then please show it!

bnorth
09-16-2013, 06:12 AM
I know this is not Pre-WWII but it is a HOFer and 1/1(only known). I have owned/still own several other 89 & 90 Score wrong back pairs of HOFers. In 20+ years of looking I have only found 2 1990 and 0 1989 Score wrong back cards that I did not own first.
This is a Wade Boggs/Roger Clemens 1990 Score wrong back pair. Click on the pic for a short video of them being turned over to show both side of the cards.
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/samI812/Ripken%20cards/th_DSCN2206.jpg (http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/samI812/Ripken%20cards/DSCN2206.mp4)

Rob D.
09-16-2013, 08:08 AM
I'm always hesitant to call any card a "one of one," because I think there are so many collections out there that few people know about. That being said, I'd welcome the chance to see another example of this Aaron (forgive the departure from post war).

Leon
09-16-2013, 08:24 AM
I never call anything one of one.....I always say one of one "known"......as I too think there is more of almost everything out there...for now, this is a one of one.

http://luckeycards.com/pt231.jpg

WillowGrove
09-16-2013, 09:47 AM
I've posted this one in other threads - as far as I know, this is the only known PC of Campy on his Mexican League team. (not autograph on back)

Brian Van Horn
09-16-2013, 10:20 AM
I have not seen another one of any of the following three:

h2oya311
09-16-2013, 10:24 AM
A few of my one-of-one knowns - assuming Postcards count:

1909 Superior RPPC - Bancroft
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1909%20Bancroft.jpg

1905 RPPC - Cobb
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1905%20Cobb.jpg

c1943 RPPC - Dandridge
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/Dandridge%20-%20c1940.jpg

1940s RPPC - Giles
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1940s%20Giles.jpg

1950 Winston-Salem Team Issue - Weaver
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1950%20Weaver.jpg

h2oya311
09-16-2013, 10:41 AM
Peter - awesome Campy!!

bcbgcbrcb
09-16-2013, 10:53 AM
Great stuff, guys, this is my kind of thread. At one time, it seemed that about 1/3 of my collection was 1 of 1's but, unfortunately, many of those are now gone.......:(

Mark
09-16-2013, 10:53 AM
I find this very interesting and enjoyable, but I can't help wondering how long it will take for two guys to post here each one proudly showing us his beloved copy of the same card.

Sean
09-16-2013, 10:56 AM
I think this is the only one. Has anyone seen another Merkle with this back?

114402

114403

z28jd
09-16-2013, 11:13 AM
I think this is the only one. Has anyone seen another Merkle with this back?

114402

114403


Is Merkle in the boner HOF?

Brian Van Horn
09-16-2013, 11:19 AM
I find this very interesting and enjoyable, but I can't help wondering how long it will take for two guys to post here each one proudly showing us his beloved copy of the same card.

By posting first, we may be killing off the competition :). Besides, I'd post this one, but I am sure someone has another:

Sean
09-16-2013, 11:23 AM
Is Merkle in the boner HOF?

No, sorry, I missed the part about HOFs.
But if there was a hall of infamy he would get in on the first ballot. :D

Runscott
09-16-2013, 11:27 AM
http://net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113397&stc=1&d=1378678890

Runscott
09-16-2013, 11:43 AM
Another possible '1 of 1', with tie-in to Stengel card - Nichols was Stengel's neighbor in Kansas City.

In the spring of 1910 (according to Stengel's biographer, Robert Creamer), before Stengel reported to the Kansas City Blues, Nichols gave him some advice, cautioning him about arguing and advising him to listen to his manager and the older players. Fifty years later, Stengel still remembered that conversation.

oldjudge
09-16-2013, 12:11 PM
With Lowell(Duffy UL)

ZenPop
09-16-2013, 01:01 PM
I believe I have the only graded 1922 Witmor Candy George Kelly card (and possibly the only card). Show any card of a HOF'er that you believe could be the only known copy of that card.

If anyone has a card that someone else thinks is a "1 of 1" then please show it!

Wow... I actually met George Kelly! He (and his wife) were friends with my grandmother... They all lived in Millbrae, CA and I got to go over there one time when I was a kid and got an autographed baseball and saw his amazing trophy room. He told me an amazing story of what an a-hole Leo Durocher was back in 1921... He said Durocher and Casey Stengel were going at it during a game... and they decided to fight after the game. Stengel asked Kelly to go with to watch him whip Durocher and when they got there Durocher was carrying a bat that he wouldn't put down... I think that's the first time I recall an adult swearing in a conversation with me... It was a pretty cool conversation.

When Kelly was inducted into the Hall of Fame, my grandmother was invited and she brought me back a program signed by a few players. I have to fish it out... but I seem to recall: Kelly and Lefty Grove... (Might have been Lefty Gomez... but pretty sure Grove.)

When Kelly passed away, my grandmother told me that Kelly's wife had wanted to give me a souvenir of some sort, but that there son wouldn't let anything go. Oh well...

T206Collector
09-16-2013, 05:01 PM
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zVZtUgKvYNgjQWK8PNLz3DiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oeCWC2P6mAA/T7wz-iODO7I/AAAAAAAAKyY/MVkZIoZ99gc/s800/Johnson_SGC_A.jpg" height="800" width="499" /></a>

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/swNQV2bixh6GcZAeoJci_jiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OhVpYz1aRys/TAAOGsOSADI/AAAAAAAAH20/uGEZ9SoRNa8/s800/image0-2.jpg" height="800" width="501" /></a>

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9JThsZG2x8u9YDxbx6mrFDiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iQ_phCjfIIU/S7FELuCjRqI/AAAAAAAAJ6Y/xE6ymo7l4wM/s800/Clarke%2520Batting%2520Auto%2520SGC%252010.jpg" height="800" width="499" /></a>

Sean1125
09-16-2013, 05:06 PM
Ruth & Gehrig (error back) both on card!

http://i43.tinypic.com/fk1w7q.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2w7jtok.jpg

Leon
09-16-2013, 05:11 PM
I cannot find another (even a non-error version)

Ruth & Gehrig both on card!




Here ya go..I believe there are a few other of these around too but can't be positive.

http://luckeycards.com/ptunc1927tabaclareraruthgehrig.jpg

here is one.


http://luckeycards.com/ptunc1930stobaceraangolanruthandcobb2.jpg

warrior1978
09-16-2013, 05:12 PM
One of ???

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=363&pictureid=7695

bcbgcbrcb
09-16-2013, 05:28 PM
Here are a few 1 of 1's that I still have.............

Rob D.
09-16-2013, 05:44 PM
Absolutely the only one in existence.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ineedanap/otherphotos/donlin.jpg

sb1
09-16-2013, 05:44 PM
One of ???

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=363&pictureid=7695

My old buddy! paid $10 for that card once upon a time.

AND used to own Phil's Mordecai Brown ML team card, I have seen one other of those.

jb217676
09-16-2013, 05:58 PM
C. 1910 Hughie Jennings RPPC and a 1924-28 RPPC of George Sisler raising the flag. I've never seen any other copies.

Sean1125
09-16-2013, 06:00 PM
Here ya go..I believe there are a few other of these around too but can't be positive.



here is one.




Is angola/morena different backs or just due to the wrong back/wrong number in the set?

Leon
09-16-2013, 06:05 PM
Is angola/morena different backs or just due to the wrong back/wrong number in the set?

I would/do classify them as 2 different sets.

Sean1125
09-16-2013, 06:08 PM
I would/do classify them as 2 different sets.

I changed my post then... I cannot find another angola/error ruth gehrig!

Leon
09-16-2013, 06:15 PM
I changed my post then... I cannot find another angola/error ruth gehrig!

That is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY ONE of those I have ever seen!!

EvilKing00
09-16-2013, 06:50 PM
I think this is the only one. Has anyone seen another Merkle with this back?

114402

114403

Im not a t206 collector but that is one interesting card!

ElCabron
09-16-2013, 07:00 PM
The real photo postcards posted in this thread have been amazing, but I kind of think they don't really fit within the spirit of a "1 of 1 card" as I'm viewing it. I do consider them cards, or close enough to cards. And I'm glad they've been posted. But so many real photo postcards are unique examples. A real photo postcard that's a 1 of 1 isn't particularly rare, even though that particular example might be, if that makes sense. But a 1 of 1 for a card that is part of an issue where numerous examples were likely produced and distributed is quite rare, in my opinion. I'm definitely not trying to take anything away from the RPPCs that have been posted here because there are several of them I would love to own. I hope some of that makes sense because it doesn't feel like I'm doing a good job of explaining myself. Also, like Leon, I prefer to say "only known example" instead of 1 of 1.

Anyway, here are a few of mine:

1902 Seymour Church Rube Waddell premium

1927-28 Mallorquina Martin Dihigo (1st card)

1945 Mexican Ray Dandridge (1st card)

1950s Dominican Juan Marichal (1st card)

-Ryan

kdixon
09-16-2013, 07:02 PM
Here are a few of Zach Wheat. On the Prairie Roses he is on the top row first player on the left. I would call this his earliest in uniform issue.

kdixon
09-16-2013, 07:08 PM
Love the Rube Waddell. The color is great Ryan.

pencil1974
09-16-2013, 07:44 PM
I've shown this in many threads but I love the card and might as well show it again. This is the only white gloss version of Ruth I've ever seen or come across.

rhettyeakley
09-16-2013, 08:16 PM
I find this very interesting and enjoyable, but I can't help wondering how long it will take for two guys to post here each one proudly showing us his beloved copy of the same card.

Here is my Witmor Candy Collection showing some of the Hall of Famers... it seems like I've seen one of these guys somewhere before! :D

Just messin' with you DanP, yours would grade higher than mine anyways!

http://starsofthediamond.com/witmorgroup1.jpg http://starsofthediamond.com/witmorgroup2.jpg

philliesphan
09-17-2013, 11:19 AM
but i've never seen another example of this 1921 Holsum Bread Stengel

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000067/59438a_lg.jpeg

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/ItemImages/000067/59438b_lg.jpeg

Exhibitman
09-17-2013, 12:42 PM
I have never seen another strip card version of this Simmons:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1920s%20W-Unc%20Hornsby.jpg

Only specimen of this Adam Hats Gomez I've ever seen:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1930s%20Adam%20Hats%20H815-2%20Gomez_%20Lefty.jpg

There were probably a few of these printed, but this is the only one I've ever seen in decades of chasing this set, a prizewinning card from the 1968 Atlantic Oil contest set:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1968%20Atlantic%20Oil%20Osteen.jpg

I've seen others from the issue but not this one:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/Rodine%20Baseball%20HOF%204.jpg

Not exactly a card but a neat item of my favorite player as a kid:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1976%20The%20Transport%20Co%20Aaron%20ticket.jpg

Coney Island Arcade Lou Gehrig:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/notanexhibitcard/websize/9Coney%20Island%20Arcade%20Gehrig.jpg

And just because my collection is...eclectic, I have to throw this in:

1930 Chocolatin Mercedes Papke and Lewis. A very rare issue from Uruguay:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/1931%20Chocolatines%20Mercedes%20Papke%20Lewis_1.j pg

Brian Weisner
09-17-2013, 01:04 PM
Here's another Merkle/Lenox
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image101_zps83459fcc.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/hogan6g/media/Image101_zps83459fcc.jpg.html)http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image102_zps00750af3.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/hogan6g/media/Image102_zps00750af3.jpg.html)

Be well Brian

ullmandds
09-17-2013, 01:07 PM
This thread should be called "debunking supposed one of a kind HOF'ers!"

I can't believe any T206(besides maybe a signed one or a print freak) is a 1/1?!

Brian Weisner
09-17-2013, 01:10 PM
A couple more...
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image1407_zps42dd9149.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/hogan6g/media/Image1407_zps42dd9149.jpg.html)http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image1409_zps048a710a.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/user/hogan6g/media/Image1409_zps048a710a.jpg.html)


Nice cards everyone.... Be well Brian

paul
09-17-2013, 02:50 PM
Ryan,

Your Juan Marichal is awesome. Do you know what year or what set it is from?

Paul

h2oya311
09-17-2013, 03:31 PM
Ryan,

Your Juan Marichal is awesome. Do you know what year or what set it is from?

Paul

It looks like Marichal played in the Dominican for that team (Leones del Escogito) from 1957-1964. All Dominican "Album cards" are just estimates when it comes to dating them. That said, I think that Ryan's card is simply bad-ass too!!!

Joe_G.
09-17-2013, 03:32 PM
Seems strange to call an 1886 issue Deacon White's rookie year since he began his major league career in 1871, but card sets wouldn't surface until the end of his career. The presented portrait of Deacon was unknown until 2009 when a near complete collection of Tomlinson cabinets surfaced. Several action poses (batting or pitching) are known for each player on the 1886 team but portraits are often unknown or unique.

cyseymour
09-17-2013, 03:58 PM
Wow, Joe, that's incredible.

Rob D.
09-17-2013, 04:01 PM
I can't believe any T206(besides maybe a signed one or a print freak) is a 1/1?!

You can make any card a 1 of 1 by writing on it -- or, better yet, having your wife write on it.

Sign your name on the front (or back) of a 1986 Topps Don Mattingly and -- voila! -- assuming you don't do it again, it's unique. Like Ryan said, not sure that was the original intent of the thread.

bcbgcbrcb
09-17-2013, 04:50 PM
Great Deacon White card, Joe.

Brian Van Horn
09-17-2013, 04:52 PM
.

cyseymour
09-17-2013, 06:24 PM
Here is a card that is unique in a certain sense - its provenance. It is from the estate of King Kelly's teammate, Billy Sunday. So if the image itself is not unique, at least the provenance is.


http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt350/jboneparth/OJs/SundayKelly.jpg

bcbgcbrcb
09-17-2013, 06:26 PM
Great image of King, Jamie.

ullmandds
09-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Great card, Jamie...I love that one...but with that rationale...every card that's no longer in it's original packaging is unique?!?!

cyseymour
09-17-2013, 06:52 PM
Okay, it is an admittedly weak rationale, but I wanted to post the card. :D

Scientifically speaking, I suppose every card is unique since all cards hold a slightly different molecular composition.

So maybe provenance is a weak rationale, but not so bad as the scientific rationale of molecular differentiality?

Does finding an even potentially worse rationale help support my other, admittedly weak excuse for posting in the first place? :p

ullmandds
09-17-2013, 06:56 PM
IT's cool, Jamie...it's an awesome card...with uber-cool provenance...I wish I had it...and Connie!!!!!

paul
09-17-2013, 10:26 PM
Here's my 1 of 1 of 1. Not only is the card unique, but it's Selee's only card.

timn1
09-18-2013, 12:30 AM
Baker wasn't in the checklist until I told Bob Lemke about mine :)

114616

h2oya311
09-18-2013, 04:45 AM
Here's my 1 of 1 of 1. Not only is the card unique, but it's Selee's only card.

Finally!! I was wondering when you'd post your Selee! Beyond awesome!!

baseballart
09-18-2013, 09:52 AM
Here are a few 1 of 1's that I still have.............

Phil

The 1914 Spokane card is not the only one around.

Max

joeadcock
09-18-2013, 11:41 AM
Heck of a card Joe

Beautiful image.

bnorth
09-18-2013, 11:42 AM
This is a 1985-86 Sportflics Prototype of the great Joe DiMaggio.
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/samI812/Ripken%20cards/dimaggio_zps30307cc5.jpg (http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/samI812/media/Ripken%20cards/dimaggio_zps30307cc5.jpg.html)

ZenPop
09-18-2013, 04:20 PM
You can make any card a 1 of 1 by writing on it -- or, better yet, having your wife write on it.

Sign your name on the front (or back) of a 1986 Topps Don Mattingly and -- voila! -- assuming you don't do it again, it's unique. Like Ryan said, not sure that was the original intent of the thread.

Not a pre-war, but... You mean like this beauty? A true 1 of 1.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2382/o48j.jpg

ullmandds
09-18-2013, 07:25 PM
That mantle's awesome! Great disguise!

calvindog
09-18-2013, 07:47 PM
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2909245525/" title="1921 Herpolsheimer's E121 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3155/2909245525_ae7548bf60_o.jpg" width="900" height="764" alt="1921 Herpolsheimer's E121"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3450433210/" title="1921 Herpolsheimer's E121 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3596/3450433210_efd10c9111_o.jpg" width="900" height="764" alt="1921 Herpolsheimer's E121"></a>

triwak
09-18-2013, 11:36 PM
1869 Cincinnati Redstockings Photo Disc with George & Harry Wright
1880's Taber Cabinet Alexander Cartwright
1950's Signed Government PC George Weiss
1939 Santurce Crabbers PC with Josh Gibson
1911 Chicago American Giants PC with Rube Foster & Pete Hill
1925 St. Louis Stars PC with Willie Wells
1922 Cuban Stars PC with Alex Pompez

bcbgcbrcb
09-19-2013, 04:59 AM
Great stuff, Ken!

h2oya311
09-19-2013, 06:29 AM
Wow Ken...WOW!!

I hope a second one of each of those cards surfaces...for my sake!!

aaroncc
09-19-2013, 08:07 AM
Really like the Alexander Cartwright cabinet. Thats a cornerstone to any collection.

triwak
09-19-2013, 09:00 AM
Thanks, guys. :)

DanP
09-19-2013, 09:10 AM
Here is my Witmor Candy Collection showing some of the Hall of Famers... it seems like I've seen one of these guys somewhere before! :D

Just messin' with you DanP, yours would grade higher than mine anyways!



Rhett, nice cards. No worries, now I can sell it. I was only keeping it because there was no record of any others on PSA or SGC.

Ken, WOW... nice stuff!

Great cards everyone! I love seeing unique cards and memorabilia.

paleocards
09-19-2013, 09:58 AM
Amazing postcards!

Question about 1911 Chicago American Giants PC: Is Rube Foster standing with arms crossed third from left and is Pete Hill crouching at the left end of the middle row?

triwak
09-19-2013, 10:39 AM
Amazing postcards!

Question about 1911 Chicago American Giants PC: Is Rube Foster standing with arms crossed third from left and is Pete Hill crouching at the left end of the middle row?


Correct on both.

ValKehl
09-19-2013, 10:49 PM
I think (and hope!) these WaJo and Sam Rice strip cards with these advertising backs are the only ones known to exist - please ignore the Reuther/Fleer card:

ValKehl
09-19-2013, 10:53 PM
A couple of T214s that I believe (and hope!) are the only ones known to exist:

ValKehl
09-19-2013, 11:00 PM
I believe that all of the very few Leader Theatre cards (both types) that are known to exist are 1 of 1s - thanks again to Dan M. for this card, which is the "Holy Grail" of my Sam Rice collection:

joeadcock
09-20-2013, 06:02 AM
Nice stuff Val
Always impressed with yur stuff

novakjr
09-20-2013, 04:24 PM
Not a pre-war, but... You mean like this beauty? A true 1 of 1.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/2382/o48j.jpg

I think my Ryan might've come from the same collection..:D

novakjr
09-20-2013, 04:32 PM
Anyways, here's my lone legit response...

I'd assume there are a bunch of these, but I've done a ton of looking, and I've never seen another on the net.. Hoping one of you guys out there can burst my bubble..

irishdenny
09-22-2013, 03:27 PM
1905 RPPC - Cobb
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1905%20Cobb.jpg

Curious...
"iS That a Policeman behind Mr Cobb?"

h2oya311
09-22-2013, 05:51 PM
1905 RPPC - Cobb
http://photos.imageevent.com/derekgranger/hofrookies1/websize/1905%20Cobb.jpg

Curious...
"iS That a Policeman behind Mr Cobb?"

Looks like it, but it's actually a jeweler from Augusta, GA. (George Parquette).

h2oya311
09-22-2013, 05:55 PM
Anyways, here's my lone legit response...

I'd assume there are a bunch of these, but I've done a ton of looking, and I've never seen another on the net.. Hoping one of you guys out there can burst my bubble..

David - ever since I saw your ML Die-Cut Dickey, I've searched for one, but to no avail. I've seen complete Was. team sets and Dickey never shows up. It must have been produced in the late 20s or early 30s w/ limited quantities, obviously.

If you ever find another, I'd happily buy your lower conditioned one!!!

E93
09-22-2013, 06:20 PM
Spectacular card! Let me know if you ever feel the need to part with it.
JimB

One of ???

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=363&pictureid=7695

E93
09-22-2013, 06:21 PM
There may be another one of these, but I have not seen it.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/premiumcards/websize/N338-2%20Ewing.jpg

E93
09-22-2013, 06:25 PM
The cataloging on these two just got confirmed last year. They aren't HOFs, but they are one-of-a-kind to the best of my knowledge.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n167/websize/N167%20Dorgan%20frontandback.tiff.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n167/websize/N167%20Esterbrook%20frontandback.tiff.jpg

Bicem
09-22-2013, 07:18 PM
wow Jim.

cyseymour
09-22-2013, 08:07 PM
Sorry, Jim, does not qualify. Must be a Hall of Famer. :)

That Dude Esterbrook is beyond belief, though. :eek:

Your set must be the most impressive accomplishment in the hobby.

gnaz01
09-22-2013, 08:25 PM
Plank, currently in REA but mine for a few more days :D

jcmtiger
09-22-2013, 09:38 PM
If anyone has any of these I would like to see them.

Joe

E93
09-23-2013, 09:12 AM
Jeff and Jamie,
Thanks,
JimB