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nameless
09-04-2013, 04:49 PM
Been talking with some fellow collectors. Pretty confident the following boxer is listed here;
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=347453&cat=boxer

Came from an Australian Collection, along side the Thompson and an Abe Hicken CDV.

Also talked to some Aussie specialists who believe he was at least a backer or ref. However they were also confident the boxer matches CC Wiliams. (Chuck, Cliffton ? ) Anyways anyone know?

http://i1365.photobucket.com/albums/r747/gorehawg/14June2013DOGSHEAD_zpsf0a50570.jpg (http://s1365.photobucket.com/user/gorehawg/media/14June2013DOGSHEAD_zpsf0a50570.jpg.html)

nameless
09-04-2013, 04:56 PM
We know the guy above was either a ref or a fighter. This issue also featured famous refs. The print is rather tough to make out, could say L.C Williams . This could in fact be Luke Williams who was a famous referee.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=551232&cat=referee

Anyways we should be able to crack this puzzle soon :)

D. Bergin
09-04-2013, 06:12 PM
You might want to contact Arnold Thomas, if you haven't already.

http://arnoldthomas.net/html/heroes.html


He knows about as much as anybody on early Australian boxing history.

nameless
09-04-2013, 07:18 PM
Thanks Dave! I contacted him. We will see what he says.

Mark Webster
09-24-2013, 07:17 AM
Hello everyone,

Here is my copy of the Old Judge card. The subject is definitely L. C. Williams. There's a good chance he is boxing related, but I'm not sure! I have and have had quite a few cards from this series, Footballers, Cricketers and Boxers. To add a note, all of the cards I have purchased have come from Australia.

Exhibitman
09-24-2013, 11:40 AM
Hey Mark, good to hear from you. Thanks for the info. Any other boxers you have and would care to show?

nameless
09-25-2013, 02:22 PM
Thanks for the info!
I am 99% certain that this man is one of these two subjects below;
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=347453&cat=boxer

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=551232&cat=referee

Pretty certain its the boxer. Abe Hicken reffed a lot of fights in Australia. And the L.C Williams Dog's Head I have is from a boxing collection in Australia. I got this one with the Jack Thompson dog's head card.

-John

Mark Webster
09-25-2013, 04:46 PM
Hi John, Adam,

Of the two Boxrec stats you have, I prefer the Luke Williams referee over the Williams boxer.

Cards from either of the series are difficult. I have six of the blank backed cards and only one Dogs Head.

If my memory serves, Adam, I remember you had the pink tinted Peter Jackson card from me quite a few years ago!

Mark.

nameless
09-25-2013, 05:16 PM
I have found old judge dog's head to be the most rare. Seconded by Gypsy Queen Top Logo. I think this must be Luke Williams the ref.