Is this Card Graded Correctly?

[oldjudge]

This isn't meant as a bash fest. I am not a grading guy and I'm just wondering if the bottom border of this card allows it to qualify for an SGC 70.

Thanks--Jay

[vintagetoppsguy]

Yes, both PSA and SGC allow for rough cuts. Some people like them, some don't. I happen to like them a lot.

[t206blogcom]

Very nice card Jay!

[slipk1068]

Yes, both PSA and SGC allow for rough cuts. Some people like them, some don't. I happen to like them a lot.

Is it rough cuts on certain sets that they allow, e.g Old Judge, or just in general they allow rough cuts?

[slipk1068]

Very nice card Jay!

+1

[vintagetoppsguy]

Is it rough cuts on certain sets that they allow, e.g Old Judge, or just in general they allow rough cuts?

I'm pretty sure it's any issue. This topic came up a couple of months ago or so on the post war side.

[PolarBear]

Infamous for his Sept 23rd, 1908 call. Nice card!

[slipk1068]

I'm pretty sure it's any issue. This topic came up a couple of months ago or so on the post war side.

thanks

[oldjudge]

Rough cuts are very, very unusual ( as in I've never seen one like this) in Old Judges. I think that rough edge happened after issue.

[the 'stache]

I can't speak as to the accuracy of this card, but it sure is a beauty, Jay.

[toledo_mudhen]

Love the rough cuts - goes back to a time when "perfection" wasn't the end all - be all. Plus no chance of a trim job there.........

[clamendo]

Jay,
I have spoken to one of the graders in the past
on this subject, but as it related to 1960 fleer
Football. Rough cuts are not graded harshly especially
if the set is typically found that way. I think
your card has nice eye appeal, that's probably
why.

[slipk1068]

Rough cuts are very, very unusual ( as in I've never seen one like this) in Old Judges. I think that rough edge happened after issue.

I always thought OJ was machine cut, hand cut, crooked cut, rough cut and any combination.

[ElCabron]

This makes no sense at all. I think some people are getting confused by the term "rough cut." Jay said he has NEVER seen a "rough cut" on an Old Judge and doesn't believe there is one on this card, either. Who cares if there is leniency for rough cuts on certain Fleer football cards or various O-Pee-Chee cards? Are we really saying that grading companies have more expertise and knowledge about Old Judges than Jay? What a joke! The answer to the original question is: No, that card is not graded correctly.

-Ryan

[aaroncc]

This makes no sense at all. I think some people are getting confused by the term "rough cut." Jay said he has NEVER seen a "rough cut" on an Old Judge and doesn't believe there is one on this card, either. Who cares if there is leniency for rough cuts on certain Fleer football cards or various O-Pee-Chee cards? Are we really saying that grading companies have more expertise and knowledge about Old Judges than Jay? What a joke! The answer to the original question is: No, that card is not graded correctly.

-Ryan

I agree with Ryan. But I wonder if the damage happened while its been in the holder.

[wonkaticket]

Very odd bottom why I passed on chasing it. Glad I wasn’t alone in my gut feeling or head scratch of that bottom border. I just thought it looked hacked had no idea it wasn’t the norm, neat to learn something if Jay has never seen one all my flags are up even more.

[auggiedoggy]

Its not worthy of a 5.5 in my opinion. That bottom edge should really knock it down several full grade points.