National Promo verse Black Swamp debacle

[KuznKevin]

"NSCC Promo Babe Ruth card at the national: The card that never was"

Looks/feels/smells like the 'great black swamp find' cards. Is that promo simply mocking the people who were suckered in to thinking the black swamp find cards weren't printed 2 years ago ?

kevin

[Cardboard Junkie]

yes?

[the 'stache]

The Black Swamp Find cards were printed two years ago? Huh?

[Cardboard Junkie]

Is this a trick question?

[KuznKevin]

no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

[ScottFandango]

no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

Why do yo think this? Because they look 2 years old?

[whitehse]

no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.


Oh Geez.....

[KuznKevin]

yes, barry halper collection anyone ? BSF equals mastery at ripoff.

[Cardboard Junkie]

May as well talk "blue old mill" too.

[KuznKevin]

Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

[bobbyw8469]

Kevin, I understand the need to talk s**t, but you really need to have your name listed if you are going to do so. Just sayin.....

[bbeck]

Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

Wait! Does this mean that Elvis is still alive and a dealer at the national?

[Cardboard Junkie]

Elvis lives!!!!!:)

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Great, guess it's time to sell my signed Marquard T206, errrr ummm my signed 2011 Topps 206 Marquard

[JollyElm]

Elvis is sporting quite a camel toe.

[the 'stache]

You need to post your full name in this thread, Kevin. ASAP.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Elvis is sporting quite a camel toe.

I don't get it... ;)

[the 'stache]

And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.


And under magnification, any collector that knows what they are doing can spot a T206 that was printed two months ago.

[jcmtiger]

no trick question. black swamp cards were probably printed at the same time of that national babe ruth promo card.

Where is the data on this information?

Joe

[drmondobueno]

Hey Kevin. Tell us more about your investigations the last few years. If you think it is possible to reprint cards, such as the BSF, tell us facts that show why you think these cards are 'probably' reprints. Give us examples of reprints found to be counterfeit that were graded by a grading company that were subsequently found to be phonies, and I am not talking about Jeter rookies, but prewar cards.

Tell us why you examined your suspicion and how you investigated to find a probability of fraud. This ain't the place for supposition and sneering at 'suckers'. Back your words up. Oh yeah, post your name, Kevin.

Keith Temple

[camlov2]

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.


Wow, 5 out of 5, what happens when someone sells a real autograph? Spontaneous combustion?

Or maybe your opinions are as accurate as your typing?

[sbfinley]

I like where this is going.

[Seattle799]

As long as everyone's at the net54 dinner (and drinks), this forum is the wild wild west!

Inmates running the asylum! :D

[the 'stache]

Wow, 5 out of 5, what happens when someone sells a real autograph? Spontaneous combustion?

Or maybe your opinions are as accurate as your typing?

He's wrong about this, and other things, too, I'd wager.

Every single autograph I've purchased in the last two years have all been certified by Topps. The Bowman Chrome prospect autos I buy are all stamped certified, and they have pictures of the athletes signing the cards.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Hey KuznKevin,

[UOFLfan7]

This thread...I have no words...good lord.

[RCMcKenzie]

I read that the guy found the cards in a box under a dollhouse in his grandpa's attic. The borders are very bright white looking. I've only seen the scans and don't really have an opinion either way. It's sort of how I felt when they told me that Pluto is just an asteroid.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Can't have a thread without some cards. So...now for the "real" donnybrook. Which card do you like?

[ibuysportsephemera]

As long as everyone's at the net54 dinner (and drinks), this forum is the wild wild west!

Inmates running the asylum! :D

Very funny, I was thinking the same thing!

[sago]

Understood on the concerns and I mean nothing here personally to anyone. (legal requirement) But being an investigator on this hobby for the past 2 years, the opinion is you guys are being fooled more than often, yet still enjoy it.

All packs can be resealed. All boxes can be rebuilt. And the kicker is, there are NO cards that can not be reprinted using the same cardboard and ink the originals came from. All it takes is the right equipment.

Autograph's ...don't even get me started. 5 out of 5 auto;s not gotten in person ar fake.

Hard to take, and probably not human enough to acceot the facts correct ?

Hi Peter Nash. Welcome to the board.

[Leon]

kuznkevin is now kuzn-gone.....

[barrysloate]

Obvious troll.

[MikeGarcia]

I've just made a big bowl of popcorn for nothin' .

[deadballfreaK]

Yes, I think you jumped the gun, Leon. I was looking forward to learning all about the hobby from that razor sharp investigator. I believe he actually crawled out of the Black Swamp.

[Tao_Moko]

What I read was:

"Youins wants to be thankin thems real cardz! Well you bees beein rong?"

[CaramelMan]

isn't there a well known kevin guy who is an expert at fakes....:eek:

[e107collector]

Hey KuznKevin,



David,

That was great!!

Both PSA and SGC slabbed counterfeit Black Swamp find cards just for the 2012 National promotion??? What a moron!!!

Tony

[hoshua4710]

Speaking of KuznKevin, I think the great Squints Palledorous says it best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=svvO-X2VGbY

[CW]

Obvious troll.

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