Lets see some N172 Old Judge ))

[smtjoy]

Just got back my first really detailed N172 and I just cant take my eyes off it and how awesome it looks (granted had to pay about 3 times the last sale but glad i did), just an amazing set when you think how old it is and yet had over 2500 different pictures in it.

Easy Thread lets see some more, here are my 3 recent picups-
all the laying down ones crack me up!
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-132-2-Dorgan-NewYork-40-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-132-2-Dorgan-NewYork-40-CU.jpg.html)
Though the cap was too cool on this one
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-339-3-Pickett-KansasCity-10-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-339-3-Pickett-KansasCity-10-CU.jpg.html)
Wow this one blew me away!
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-160-1-Fields-wBarkley-Pittsburg-50-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-160-1-Fields-wBarkley-Pittsburg-50-CU.jpg.html)

[Matthew H]

Scott, those OJs are amazing! The Fields was worth the money IMO. Virginia (biggrandma) had some great OJs. Pretty much all of them had impossibly incredible photo quality for a single group of cards. I have no idea how they all developed so well, and stayed that way so long. They were an original collection. I have a couple of them.

I am out of town right now, but I will post some stuff next week.

-Matt

[z28jd]

Love these threads, so I'll add some of my old scans. I really need to do a better job of scanning

[RCMcKenzie]

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[uffda51]

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/18871890n172oldjudge/websize/N172%20Clark-Hughes%20sm32.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/18871890n172oldjudge/websize/N172%20Ewiing%20and%20mascot%20.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/18871890n172oldjudge/websize/N172%20Ryan%20.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/18871890n172oldjudge/websize/N172%20Williamson%20and%20Hahn.jpg

[oldjudge]

Let me add a couple that are not in the book

[oldjudge]

This is an aggressive uniform team update for Wise after his move to Washington

[oldjudge]

Hughes with Polka Dot Tie

[oldjudge]

O'Brien and Irwin

[bcbgcbrcb]

The newest Old Judge HOF'er, Hank O'Day...........

[oldjudge]

Mr Winkleman

[Matthew H]

Thanks for posting the Hughes Jay, I've been curious about how that one looked.

[joeadcock]

Irwin

[the-illini]

Jay that O'Brien/Irwin cabinet might be the coolest card I have ever seen.

[RCMcKenzie]

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[kkkkandp]

A few more...

[pete zouras]

<a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/user/zouraspm/media/purcellf.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/purcellf.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo purcellf.jpg"/></a>

[t206blogcom]

I'm partial to the one that shares my name, despite no family tree relation.
http://www.t206blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/N172-Cub-Stricker-SGC-A.jpg
http://www.t206blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/n172-Hugh-Duffy-SGC-A.jpg
http://www.t206blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/N172-Old-Judge-Danny-Richardson-SGC-10-Poor.jpg

[wolterse]

Been awhile since I picked up an old judge. going to have to change that soon after seeing this thread and going back to post what I have.

[wonkaticket]

Jay that O'Brien/Irwin cabinet might be the coolest card I have ever seen.

+1

[oldjudge]

Yah, it's kind of like the Washington Nationals in the land of Oz. I wish I owned it, but it is in the Wharton-Tigar collection at the British Museum.

[Joe_G.]

Yah, it's kind of like the Washington Nationals in the land of Oz. I wish I owned it, but it is in the Wharton-Tigar collection at the British Museum.

That is one of the better two player cards for sure. Jay and I owe special thanks to Charles Hausberg for sharing the images Jay posted. The Edward Wharton-Tigar collection has over 20 cards we could have used images for in the book. An amazing collection indeed! I really like the McCormick portrait.

[paul]

Here are a few.

[jcmtiger]

Jay and Joe G., wondered why this pose is not in the book. You have an N173 in it's place. It can't be scarce because I have one:D

Joe

[oldjudge]

Joe---we tried to show each team that the player had a card from in the pose images. The image that you are referring to showed Weidman with a NY Giants card.

[itjclarke]

Only have a couple OJs but love 'em... Pud is much crisper in person.
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[Bosox Blair]

My best ones:

[TheBig6]

http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/kelly3.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/keefe2.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/ward2.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/ferguson2.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/welch.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/gleason.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/maines_1.jpg

[Kenny Cole]

A few of mine

[bcbgcbrcb]

Very nice group, Kenny!

[Joe_G.]

Some very nice cards posted. I'll second the comment on the photo quality of the cards from Virginia (biggrandmama). I was fortunate to pick up a couple of them. Hard to improve on the Fields posted by Scott.

One of my favorite players, Charles "Lady" Baldwin. Now if I could only find his 5th pose I'd have a nice sequence of his full pitching motion :)

[cyseymour]

I like this one...

[oldjudge]

Jamie--where is the Delahanty?

[E93]

A few favorites....
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20Bid%20McPhee.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20Charles%20Comiskey.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172ssupersharp/websize/N172%20Broughton.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172ssupersharp/websize/N172%20Julie%20Freeman%20SGC%2040.jpeg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172ssupersharp/websize/N172%20Honest%20John%20Gaffney%20SGC%2084.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172ssupersharp/websize/N172%20MC%20Robinson.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20Anson%20SGC%2040.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20John%20Barnes%20SGC%2020.jpeghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20Hatfield%20SGC%2040.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n172/websize/N172%20Dalrymple.jpg

[bcbgcbrcb]

Jim:

Beautiful McPhee & Anson.

[cyseymour]

Jamie--where is the Delahanty?

Like myself, Big Ed is looking for a new living situation.

[cyseymour]

Jim, great looking McPhee. I had my eye on that one.

[oldjudge]

Jamie--are you selling it or auctioning it off? If the latter, good luck with it.

[wonkaticket]

This is a set I wish I paid more attention to as a kid, because as an adult they really are amazing! To think that some collectors have hundreds and or thousands upon thousands of these cards in collections is not only humbling but mind blowing as well. Here are my lone 13 examples. Great cards everyone!

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/net54shared/huge/oj1.jpg

Jim B great cards!

[caramelcard]

Which city is featured the most across the set? I know there were different teams, but seems like chicago might have the most...?

Great cards everyone!

Rob

[E93]

Wonka,
Too bad you couldn't find any nice examples. :D
JimB

[cyseymour]

Jamie--are you selling it or auctioning it off? If the latter, good luck with it.

Thanks, Jay. It has been consigned to Bill Goodwin. As you know, Bill is top notch, and he has done a terrific job marketing the card. I always enjoy working with him.

[cyseymour]

Great looking OJ's, Mr. Wonka! Here's another one:

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt350/jboneparth/OJs/WhitneyDogSGC70.jpeg

[tiger8mush]

wow, those are some beautiful OJs! I feel embarassed to post scans of these low quality specimen. This is one of the player runs I'm going for ...

[Joe_G.]

Some amazing cards. Nothing like a dark image photographic card from Goodwin & Co. I love Jim's Gaffney and what a "meager" collection of 13 John.

[wonkaticket]

Joe, that card is amazing!

Jamie, you know if Mr. Whitney needs to move one day you know he can bunk at my place anytime.

Great stuff guys!

Cheers,

John

[cyseymour]

John,

You will have first crack at it, I promise. But the pooch is hypo-allergenic, so we are co-existing quite well at the moment.

Jamie

[jerrys]

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[Joe_G.]

Which city is featured the most across the set? I know there were different teams, but seems like chicago might have the most...?

Great cards everyone!

Rob

NY Giants have more poses and are typically not very difficult. In a large random sample of 1886-1890 Old Judge cards, the NL New York Giants would be more commonly encountered than any other team.

In some ways, I'm lucky to be a Detroit collector as opposed to New York. The 1887 total pose count would raise from Detroit's 28 to New York's 111 (NY averages ~8 poses per player in 1887)!

[E93]

Jerry,
That Billy Sunday is amazing!
JimB

Joe,
The image on that Twitchell is mind-blowing!

[E93]

How about one example from the other Old Judge baseball set?
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n167/websize/N167%20OquRourke%20SGC%2060%20frontandback.tiff.jp g

[wonkaticket]

Speechless...just super Jim. :eek:

The best mustache on a card ever, I challenge anyone to beat that stache! Jim here is the little known N167 variation you will need to find for your set.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/net54shared/small/N167per20OquRourkeper20SGCper2060per20frontandback _tiff%20copy.jpg

Very excited to add another OJ, thanks Greg.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/net54shared/large/8199956001_f.jpg

[wake.up.the.echoes]

After buying The Photographic Baseball Cards of Goodwin & Company (1886-1890) (I know I am late to the party, but it really is a wonderful resource, guys. Thank you for taking the time to write it. If I could do one thing 1/10th as beneficial to the hobby, I would certainly have accomplished something.), I decided to take the plunge and buy a few cards. I decided to attempt a few complete player/pose runs, beginning with Jerry Denny. Welcome to my addiction.

http://photos.imageevent.com/thebeautifulgame/oldjudge/image.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/thebeautifulgame/oldjudge/9image.jpg

[deadballera]

here's one for viewing

[tiger8mush]

new pickup ...

[wake.up.the.echoes]

Great California Brown, Rob.
It's been great reading about all these guys in the book. Not only is the book a great lesson on the cards of Goodwin & Co., but also it is a great primer on the early history of the game. Brown is one of the guys I considered collecting. Still not sure who I am going to collect next. Maybe van Haltren? Maybe the players from the Syracuse team (where I live)?

[ValKehl]

I collect only Washington players.

[ValKehl]

Looking to keep this great thread going. Here's some Hank O'Day poses/variations. Actually, I no longer have the card on the far right - sold it on eBay shortly after O'Day's election to the HOF was announced.
Val

[RCMcKenzie]

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/8762429568_2d53d73f00.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7328/9236059184_002ed60a54.jpg

[RCMcKenzie]

I've posted these before, but finally learned how to post pictures from offsite...

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2878/9094961659_da96118f70.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8279/8762402998_fd964513be.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/8950184788_630f80e06d.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8749687352_441348aa79.jpg

[bcbgcbrcb]

These are my best Old Judge images...........

[oldjudge]

Great images guys. You have acquired some beautiful cards. Rob-I really like that proof.

[matthew]

Rob, I've always felt the same about Chicago. Both of mine are Chicago. Here is my favorite.

[Joe_G.]

I agree Jay, some gorgeous cards. If we are extending to cabinets, I'll share one of my better images. It also represents the only copy of Bennett that I'm aware of with "DETROIT" not erased from his jersey. I've now studied 5 different N173 Bennett cards and perhaps a dozen of his N172s and this is the only one I've seen with "DETROIT" still present. This would mean nothing to others but kind of neat for a Detroit collector.

[cyseymour]

That Bennett is awesome.

[smtjoy]

Amazing cards everyone, here are a few more-

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJQuinnJoe376-1SGC50CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJQuinnJoe376-1SGC50CU.jpg.html)
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-482-4-Weber-SiouxCitys-20-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-482-4-Weber-SiouxCitys-20-CU.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-155-4-Farrell-Chicago-45-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-155-4-Farrell-Chicago-45-CU.jpg.html)http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182/smtjoy/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-457-6-Tiernan-NewYork-30-CU.jpg (http://s112.photobucket.com/user/smtjoy/media/Vintage%20Cards/1887%20N172%20Old%20Judges/1887OJ-457-6-Tiernan-NewYork-30-CU.jpg.html)

[oldjudge]

Joe-- that Bennett is truely a great card. It belongs nowhere else than in your Detroit collection.

[MuddyMules]

Joe and Jay,

I really want to thank you both for all of the information that you have given me regarding the N172 cards. Your book is an icon in my home.

I also wanted to post the Stump Weidman (Weichman) - Detriots / New Yorks misspelled card for others to see.

Ted

[RCMcKenzie]

2 new arrivals this week Daly port and another McAleer.....

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5517/9259679208_c0a0171cef.jpghttp://farm4.staticflickr.com/3729/9256899353_5be63b9f9f.jpg

[jcmtiger]

I agree Jay, some gorgeous cards. If we are extending to cabinets, I'll share one of my better images. It also represents the only copy of Bennett that I'm aware of with "DETROIT" not erased from his jersey. I've now studied 5 different N173 Bennett cards and perhaps a dozen of his N172s and this is the only one I've seen with "DETROIT" still present. This would mean nothing to others but kind of neat for a Detroit collector.

Great card Joe

[Joe_G.]

Thanks for the compliments on Bennett. Ted, that is a neat Wiedman variation.

The scan below represents my newest pick-ups (both arrived today). Can anyone figure out why I'd possibly have interest in these two cards? If you know my collecting focus and have really studied the OJ set, you just might be able to figure it out. Jay Miller is excluded from this competition :)

[Matthew H]

Are you collecting 0-numbers??

Everyone has posted some great stuff so far... I would but I'm bed ridden. Anyway, this thread in entertaining so thanks, and I hope it keeps going!

[aelefson]

Bradley, Worcesters with a nice white beard.

Incredible cards from everyone else!

Alan

[Joe_G.]

Are you collecting 0-numbers??

Everyone has posted some great stuff so far... I would but I'm bed ridden. Anyway, this thread in entertaining so thanks, and I hope it keeps going!

In the right ball park, but not exactly. Those two poses represent OJ zero number 0480 and 0509 which bookend the Detroit Wolverine run. The Wolves run uninterrupted from 0481 to 0508. I always thought it would be neat to collect all the zero numbered cards but don't have the budget for such an endeavor when my focus spans outside of just N172s. I'm happy with a run of 30. I'll leave it to someone else to tackle the 1887 zero numbers. The design is classic and the challenge is far more attainable than many other OJ subsets. I'm actually a bit surprised there isn't someone collecting the set in this fashion (at least not that I'm aware of). The zero numbers cover all 8 National League teams plus the outdoor Brooklyn from the American Association.

[Matthew H]

I should have known that! :)

Thanks for clearing it up, Joe.

[Thirteen]

Love Net54!

[h2oya311]

I'm late to the party...but here's my most recent pick-up:

[bcbgcbrcb]

Beautiful Ewing card, Derek. Never seen that pose before.

[h2oya311]

Beautiful Ewing card, Derek. Never seen that pose before.

Thanks.

I had seen the pose (bat at 45), but from 1887 and saying "Capt." instead of "C.", but this one is awesome (in my opinion), since the image is so wide, at least compared to the 1887 version! The only thing holding this card back is some writing on the back...oh, and that it's not his "rookie" card.

[piedmont150]

My very first two Old Judge cards after many years of tackling the T 206. I am already loving the challenge and the research. Thanks to Jay and Alan for these two fine cards..

[kdixon]

Reynolds Kansas City.

[oldjudge]

Great card Kenny--I love the glove in that pose(actually both of them).

[kkkkandp]

That is my favorite Reynolds pose, too.

[tedzan]

I don't have too many of these dudes; anyhow, I don't think Fogerty nor Glasscock have been on display yet.


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/MAYOLongN172Fogarty_zpsc5b7ab7b.jpg


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd339/tz1234zaz/aoldjudgeglassck.jpg


TED Z

[Gobucsmagic74]

Ted Z,
Love the 1888 Goodwin Champs Glasscock! Any chance you'd consider selling it? It's at the top of my want list so I have to ask. I tried to PM you but your mail is full

[Jacklitsch]

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[kdixon]

Reynolds has sold. Thanks for all the comments and replies.

[tedzan]

Ted Z,
Love the 1888 Goodwin Champs Glasscock! Any chance you'd consider selling it? It's at the top of my want list so I have to ask. I tried to PM you but your mail is full


Dan

Sorry, but I don't do PM's.

Anyhow, the N162 Glasscock is part of my Goodwin Champions set. Therefore, it's not for sale.

TED Z

[Gobucsmagic74]

Dan

Sorry, but I don't do PM's.

Anyhow, the N162 Glasscock is part of my Goodwin Champions set. Therefore, it's not for sale.

TED Z

No problem, had to ask

[RCMcKenzie]

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5542/9348319458_15c1e4bc5a_b.jpg


This card shows Schoeneck in a Chicago Maroons uniform. Somehow the photo was doctored for this Indy card. The "Chicago" has been removed from the jersey, similar to the way some T213 jerseys are altered to reflect "Traded" cards.

In 1888 Schoeneck played 70 games with 287 ABs for the Maroons before moving to the Hoosiers later that year to split time at first base with Dude Esterbrook after the preseason bust at 1B by Walter Bogert.

[joeadcock]

RC

Cool pose on the OJ

[RCMcKenzie]

RC

Cool pose on the OJ

Thanks. Yeah, I think it's amazing the amount of detail that went into producing the n172 cards. The Jumbo Schoeneck examples on page 373 of the OJ book illustrate that the Indianapolis captioned cards have "Chicago" removed from the photo as in the 404-3 pictured in the book.

It is a precursor to the way the makers of the T213 series handled this Rudolph card by removing the "Toronto" to indicate a team change.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/9352901732_473725dc1d_o.jpg

[ValKehl]

Got this card several years ago in a trade with Mr. OJ, and I'm still lovin' it! Jay, thanks again for the trade!
Best,
Val

[oldjudge]

Val--A good trade is when both parties come away happy, and stay happy. Our trades were good trades.

All the best--Jay

[Matthew H]

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/matthewhall111/10aebd8e-d584-41dc-90fd-f376271b027e.jpg

[ScottFandango]

...

[Matthew H]

Another tough OJ that I just picked up from Jay, who always has a stockpile of nice cards available. Nice cards everyone.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu319/matthewhall111/Messitt.jpg