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Prince Hal
05-20-2013, 02:16 PM
I recently won a PSA 1.5 M101-4 Famous and Barr Roy Hartzell. Its clearly undersized but received a grade. Is there much variation in size on these cards? All my other M101-4s seem consistent.

nolemmings
05-20-2013, 07:10 PM
You actually won an m101-5 F&B Hartzell. The reason I differentiate is because m101-4 F&Bs, at least numbers 1-20, are slightly larger (usually just wider), so if you only have those to compare that could be why.

F&Bs as well as other m101-4/5s can vary noticeably in size. What are the measurements on yours? If this is the card you won then I believe it's good; in fact, it does not look narrow at all and at most a touch short.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1916-M101-5-Famous-Barr-Co-76-Roy-Hartzell-New-York-PSA-1-5-355269-/00/s/MTAwMFg1Njg=/z/hlUAAMXQI5tRgxNf/$T2eC16hHJI!E9qSO-S8OBRg)Nfbip!~~60_57.JPG

For contrast, here's an m101-4 F&B fatty and then a somewhat skinny/short m101-5-- each is outside the "norm":
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/backsfamousbarr/large/m1014burns_fandb.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/backsfamousbarr/large/16m1015coveleskie.jpg

Prince Hal
05-22-2013, 11:18 AM
Thanks for the input. this is the card. Its hard to measure through the slab but holding it against other M101-4s I have it is about the correct length but def slimmer. I need to bone up more on the difference between the m101-4 and m101-5. Thanks again.

smtjoy
05-22-2013, 11:31 AM
Agree with Todd, I have a bunch of them and they vary a lot in size.

Koufax32fan
04-06-2014, 12:54 PM
I am reviving this post because I saw a Famous and Barr card today (of Casey Stengel) that had perforations along the right side. Is anyone on here aware that these cards were reprinted and/or has anyone seen one with perforations?

nolemmings
04-06-2014, 03:14 PM
Yes they were reprinted--type in "Dover reprint baseball cards" and you'll see at least one book of reprinted cards from a whole slew of pre-war sets. The Stengel, Robinson and Roush were all reprinted in this book with Famous & Barr backs.

Here are a bunch on ebay now for under a buck:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTM3M1gxMDk2/z/~YUAAOxydlFS91V6/$_57.JPG