1981 Topps Cooper/Brett/Jackson Scratch-off Panel PSA Response

[mybestbretts]

I first received a response on this PSA Scratch-Off panel that they would
request a scan and forward it to me. Since I never received a response I
emailed them again today. They finally emailed me back and said that the
card was a "promo" card and the owner was going to send it in to be relabeled
and then could put it in the registry. Anyone have the "promo" panels?

[ALR-bishop]

Not me. Not part of set then. I have collected some promotional samples but am not going to worry about this one. I will leave that to you and Doug :)

Good detective work. What is your first name ?

[brett 75]

Hope you get a scan of it . I would actually like to see it in a PSA holder . Collected the set when it came out and love seeing items that are rarely seen. If ever ! Brett

[mybestbretts]

I still wonder if this is some type of one of a kind prototype that Topps
considered.

[ALR-bishop]

Here is an example of a Topps prototype from which only one subject eventually made it into the set that followed

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img493_zps688a8d68.jpg

[mybestbretts]

Fantastic, tks for sharing

[GasHouseGang]

Well, I bought my set as soon as an article appeared in SCD touting these as being available as a limited regional test run. I looked through my set last night and I don't have that variation. So if it was done as a promo or prototype, it would have been done in very small numbers and not released to the general public.

[HRBAKER]

Here is an example of a Topps prototype from which only one subject eventually made it into the set that followed

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img493_zps688a8d68.jpg

Four earlier or later Cardinals on that deckle-proto; Woodeshick, Rocky Johnson, Adlesh and Osteen.

[rgpete]

Some prototypes were never made into test sets or regular issues.

[ALR-bishop]

...and while the coins were not blank backed

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img024.jpg

these were

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img016.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img167.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img023-3.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img128.jpg

[rgpete]

1980 coins on presentation board have obverse and reverse. Blank back?

[ALR-bishop]

What I said was, my 3 coins, shown above, have finished backs, unlike most proofs, see other examples, which are blank backed

[rgpete]

My understanding is and I could be wrong the definition of proof is a sheet of printed material that is made to be checked and corrected whether it is blank backed or not. Prototype is designed to test and trial a new design or concept to market. Maybe the same or not after corrections made. Proofs for coins limited number of newly minted coins or medals struck as specimens and for collectors from a new die on a polished planchet.

[rgpete]

The coins are not proofs because they were not minted for collectors or public. They are prototypes for a product that got cancelled for some reason before production.

[ALR-bishop]

I can buy into your distinction but under that distinction all the items pictured above would be prototypes. How would you classify the Topps 1984 Encased or Head in The Box cards ?

[rgpete]

I would consider them proofs. It was a step and or process making final changes towards the final product.

[rgpete]

Al you have a nice collection of proofs and prototypes

[ALR-bishop]

If the scratch off that is the subject here shows up, is it a proof or prototype ? I assume proof, even though it never made it into the set, since a set was produced. On the others pictured in this thread, none made it into production for retail sale, with the possible exception of the Deckle sheets, since they did make it into production, even though only one player made it into the actual set.

I suppose it is like variations, print defects, errors, variants...or a Doug likes to call them, glorified print dots....everyone can and does have their own way of looking at and defining things. Most folks probably do not care one way or the other :)

[rgpete]

I agree

[Gmrson]

...and while the coins were not blank backed

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img024.jpg

these were

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img016.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img167.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img023-3.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img128.jpg

Al, you never cease to amaze me! Those "Who Am I" cards are new to me! Also what are the Cash and Conigliaro?? Thanks for sharing these new (for me!) items!