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mybestbretts
04-26-2013, 08:36 PM
I have been looking for some time for the Cecil Cooper/George Brett/Reggie Jackson panel. Were these short printed or have I just not come across it yet.

ALR-bishop
04-27-2013, 12:48 PM
Bretts...I know I have a full set of players ( 108) assuming the SCD checklist is right, and I think I have 144 different panels, but not the one you mention. SCD does not checklist the panels. Are you sure that panel exists ?

I also have a set of proofs ( see example below), and that panel is not among them either

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img496_zpsd3dbad2a.jpg?t=1367080946
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img497_zps3c56457e.jpg?t=1366994735
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img494_zpsfeaac55f.jpg?t=1366995081
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img495_zpsf7877d92.jpg?t=1367081425

doug.goodman
04-28-2013, 09:12 PM
I have 144 different panels, but I just left on tour and won't be home for a month to look thru them. I do not have them broken down by name in my excel files, and I have not gotten to the point of scanning my 1981 sets, yet. I'll look when I get home.

Doug

mybestbretts
04-28-2013, 09:15 PM
Apparently this panel does exist as it is graded and in the psa registry.
That is the best I can tell you.

mybestbretts
04-28-2013, 09:17 PM
Thank you so much for trying to help :)

ALR-bishop
04-28-2013, 11:17 PM
Doug--you need to get to work on your scanning and excelling and quit wondering around the world with a bunch of musicians

4reals
04-29-2013, 01:19 AM
Bretts,

I hope you don't mind but I have a question of my own regarding this set and this seems like the perfect opportunity to ask it. It is in regards to the panel backs. The back of the top card is always the game rules, the middle card is the scoreboard, and the bottom card is one of three ads; the umpire ball-strike indicator, the baseball card storage locker, and the baseball hat offer. My question is are there three variations for every panel?

Specifically, for my Dodgers team set two Dodgers appear on the bottom portion of a panel; Jerry Reuss and Dave Lopes. I have only seen a Lopes with a Ball-Strike Indicator back and I've only seen Reuss with a baseball hat offer. Has anyone seen them with other backs?

Thanks for letting me piggyback the thread.

mybestbretts
04-29-2013, 09:08 AM
Welcome aboard Joe. Maybe we can get some answers

ALR-bishop
04-29-2013, 09:25 AM
Will look back tomorrow through mine again for the one Bretts asked about and will check out the backs of the Dodger panels I have too.

No telling when Doug will be back from his latest world travel. He is like a gypsy or Roma.....but without the charm :)

ALR-bishop
04-30-2013, 12:31 PM
I definitely do not have the Cooper/Brett/Jackson panel, so if it exists I am missing it as well. But in looking at the composite checklist on the PSA Registry it looks like a player list ( 108) rather than a panel list ( 144, I think). I believe the set has 108 players but they are mixed on 144 different panels---see all 3 above. The Registry lists the first 3 players as Brett, Cooper and Jackson, but I don't think that is a panel or a panel list, just a player list. I could be wrong since I am not a graded guy, and none of the sets on the Registry seem to be complete as to player or panels. I am still hoping the panel you seek does not exist. But, Brett does exist on more than one panel


On Dodger bottoms I have;

Hernandez/Collins/Reuss---hat
Smith/Mazzilli/Lopes--card locker
Howard/Hendrick/Reuss---hat
Buckner/Luzinski/Lopes---ball
Garvey/Luzinski/Lopes---ball
Garvey/Cey/Lopes---ball
Carter/Hendrick/Reuss--hat
Smith/Richards/Reuss---ball

So Joe you may need a couple

doug.goodman
04-30-2013, 05:27 PM
No telling when Doug will be back from his latest world travel. He is like a gypsy or Roma.....but without the charm :)

Hey! I have more charm than the gypsy from Thinner. (Stephen King book & movie).

ALR-bishop
04-30-2013, 06:29 PM
You probably are more a Harold "the Hawk" Lauder charm type. Do you like chocolate covered PayDays ?

4reals
04-30-2013, 10:44 PM
So Joe you may need a couple

Yes, it appears I do. Thanks for taking the time to look Al.

I had a few of the panels on my want list but now based on the info you provided I need:

Lopes - Card Locker ad back (single; both regular and proof variations)
Reuss - Ball Strike Indicator ad back (single; both regular and proof variations)

bsuttonosu
04-30-2013, 11:15 PM
As a fellow Brett collector, here's what I have in my checklist. 5 panel combinations with Brett.

Topps Scratch-Off Panel of 3 (George Brett/Rick Manning/Rick Burleson)
Topps Scratch-Off Panel of 3(George Brett/Rick Manning/Sixto Lezcano)
Topps Scratch-Off Panel of 3 (George Brett/Willie Aikens/Rick Burleson)
Topps Scratch-Off Panel of 3 (George Brett/Willie Wilson/Alan Trammell)
Topps Scratch-Off Panel of 3 (George Brett/Cecil Cooper/Reggie Jackson)

I can't confirm all of these variations but this is what I've gathered from a variety of sources over the years. I don't collect panel variations so I only have one in my collection, I believe one of the ones with Manning.

rjackson44
05-01-2013, 08:21 AM
hi I got a set on ebay for 8 dollars sbipping a while back I like it pretty

ALR-bishop
05-01-2013, 09:10 AM
Sutton---I have and can confirm the first 4 panels you list. As I mentioned to the OP, I do not have a Jackson, Brett, Cooper.

Jackson---did you get a set of players (108) or a full set of panels ( 144 I think) ? If panels, how many and is Jackson/ Brett/ Copper one of them ?

the 'stache
05-01-2013, 11:27 AM
I'd forgotten all about these things. Good fun! I used to scratch these off with glee as a kid.

Gmrson
05-01-2013, 11:30 AM
I bought a lot of these back in 1981 and I really doubt a Brett/Jackson/Cooper panel exists, unless it is in proof form. I built a "Master" set of these which consisted of 4 different panels for each "top" player on the panels (I believe each player had 4 diff. panel combinations for whatever section they were in).

108 player/3=36 x 4 variations of each = the 144 total panels.

Both Brett and Jackson are in the #1 slot and were not on a panel together. I never thought about the back offer variations though. I will have to check my smattering of extras I still have left for Lopes & Reuss.

ALR-bishop
05-01-2013, 11:54 AM
I have a 144 separate panels and think Mike is right. I also think I have a full set of the proofs, see above for example, and as mentioned earlier, no Jackson/Brett/Cooper.

Doug thinks he has the 144 panel set as well and when he returns he is going to check his for one.

I put my set together a long time ago and had not looked at it since. It was kind of fun going back through it all in connection with this thread

mybestbretts
05-01-2013, 06:56 PM
The panel just showed up on the Brett Topps master set list. Whoever has
it has not entered it but it must have been graded by PSA.

mybestbretts
05-01-2013, 06:58 PM
This panel has Cecil Cooper on top/Brett in the middle/Reggie Jackson
on the bottom

brob28
05-01-2013, 09:47 PM
I just completed my own personal wild goose chase and found none in my stash! :)

ALR-bishop
05-01-2013, 09:47 PM
When you say it is graded and in PSA Registry what are you referring to, all I see is them listed 1,2 and 3 in the 108 numbered player list

mybestbretts
05-01-2013, 10:16 PM
It's looking more like this was a proof panel of some sort

mybestbretts
05-01-2013, 10:17 PM
Al, go to the PSA Registry and go to George Brett Topps Master set or
George Brett Master set. It's listed in both.

philliesphan
05-01-2013, 10:41 PM
who has collected a Player Set for over a decade on the PSA Registry, I can say w/o doubt that they often make mistakes.

I'd strongly recommend that you ask them for a scan to verify, and provide them a copy of the checklist showing that this combination is a) not in the official checklist and b) as such, should not be included in the Master Set Registry.

Kind Regards-
#1 Schmidt collector for 10+ years

ALR-bishop
05-02-2013, 09:07 AM
I have a set of proofs too, all like the ones I posted above, and it is not in there either. A mystery. Cool.

Bretts---looked at the Brett Master set on registry and see what you mean. The other ones listed certainly exist, but I can't confirm the one you seek. Good luck

mybestbretts
05-02-2013, 12:14 PM
What is interesting is that whoever submitted for the registry has never
entered it yet.
Thanks for the suggestion, I think I will email and ask for verification.
I'll let you know what I find out

mybestbretts
05-02-2013, 12:56 PM
Where do I find the panel checklist?

David W
05-03-2013, 07:44 AM
I would pick these up driving home from college or work at the gas station/convenience store.

I finally got all but 1 card - Cecil Cooper - and found an ad in The Sporting News selling the cards for 25 cents each.

I mailed a quarter to the dealer and he mailed me Cecil Cooper in a plain white envelope with a nice note asking me next time to please include money for postage or a stamp.

ALR-bishop
05-03-2013, 09:11 AM
Neat story about the dealer David. An age gone by.Do you still have Cecil ? :)

mybestbretts
05-03-2013, 02:39 PM
Folks, I need alittle help. I can not find a checklist of panels or proofs of
the scratch-off panels and so I need to know just how to explain this
to PSA.

ALR-bishop
05-03-2013, 04:10 PM
I have not seen a panel checklist. We know there are 108 players in the set and I agree with Mike's ( gmrson) post above that there are 144 panels. I have 144 different panels and the one in question is not among them, or in my proof set. Beyond that it is like trying to prove something does not exist

brett 75
05-04-2013, 08:00 PM
Making one up from my extras , you prefer glue or tape:D

mybestbretts
05-04-2013, 09:24 PM
:)

David W
05-06-2013, 01:34 PM
Neat story about the dealer David. An age gone by.Do you still have Cecil ? :)

Yes. I have the set neatly torn on the perforations somewhere, if I find it I will scan Cecil

mybestbretts
05-06-2013, 03:49 PM
I did write the PSA Registry and request a scan of the panel in question.

HasselhoffsCheeseburger
05-08-2013, 06:06 PM
Were these issued in packs? If so, are they tough?

ALR-bishop
05-08-2013, 07:12 PM
Arthur---see post 2 of this thread for scan of pack

HasselhoffsCheeseburger
05-09-2013, 12:34 PM
Nice, thanks Al. Not sure how I missed that. I had never seen these before.

GasHouseGang
05-09-2013, 01:18 PM
I went crazy when these first came out. They appeared in SCD at the time as a "scarce regional test issue". There was an article with pictures and a checklist. So when these showed up at the local 7-11 in Columbia, Missouri I bought all they had. I got a set of panels and still have unopened packs. The trouble is, they weren't all that scarce or popular. I never looked for any variations in these and I'm not even sure where my set is. I guess it's buried in with my other sets from the 80's and 90's.

4reals
05-09-2013, 05:11 PM
Thanks Mike (Gmrson) for the two panels you sent, rec'd them today. They look great! If anyone else has any, I'm looking for the following panels with no wax on back and little to no scratches in the black on front:

BAKER/Parrish/Seaver
BAKER/Puhl/Seaver
Carter/Hendrick/REUSS
Hernandez/Hendrick/REUSS
Hernandez/Collins/REUSS
O.Smith/Richards/REUSS (2)
Buckner/CEY/Griffey

edited*** no longer need

tjv815
04-22-2014, 11:13 PM
I was sent a number of the Scratch-Offs from a trading friend. I would like to collect the 144 different panels, however, I am having trouble finding a checklist of the 144 different panels. The closest I have found is the teamsets4u.com site which lists 129 different. Can anyone please provide a checklist? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
TJ

ALR-bishop
04-23-2014, 09:36 AM
http://www.beckett.com/baseball/1981/topps-scratchoffs/

If no other option, I have 144 different panels and could put together a list. Doug mentioned above that he had/has 144 panels as well. Maybe he has a list.

In my 144 I do not have the Brett panel discussed at length above, but not sure we ever verified that it really exists

I know the guy who does the TEAMS4U lists from another board. I will ask if he can shed any light on why his list only includes 129

Jayworld
04-23-2014, 12:18 PM
Neat thread. I collected these when they were out here in the Dallas area. Got quite a few packs, but never a full set. Unfortunately, I separated all mine and even played the game with a few…. Do not remember seeing the panel in question that started the thread by OP. I still have a wax pack or two… How regional were these? They were plentiful here (north of Dallas) in 1981….

mybestbretts
04-23-2014, 10:32 PM
Glad your keeping it alive. Maybe someone will have some answers about
the Cecil Cooper/Brett/Jackson. Still hunting

Blackie
04-24-2014, 09:30 AM
I have 4 unopened packs of these (or I think this are the cards your talking about). Here are some scans. I had 5 but opened one pack to check what was inside.

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa380/RobMM77/img319_zps696565b7.jpg (http://s1194.photobucket.com/user/RobMM77/media/img319_zps696565b7.jpg.html)
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa380/RobMM77/img320_zps7290a5b6.jpg (http://s1194.photobucket.com/user/RobMM77/media/img320_zps7290a5b6.jpg.html)
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa380/RobMM77/img321_zps8fdc8779.jpg (http://s1194.photobucket.com/user/RobMM77/media/img321_zps8fdc8779.jpg.html) don't mind the donruss packs........just scanned those for reference on another thing im working on