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Zone91
04-17-2013, 11:40 AM
Looks way better than 95% of what Ebay has to offer at better prices!!

Thanks for the people who sent me the link...appreciate the help!!!

atx840
04-17-2013, 11:43 AM
Looks way better than 95% of what Ebay has to offer at better prices!!

Top shelf items...top shelf prices..usually they jump way up during extended bidding. :D

Matthew H
04-17-2013, 11:46 AM
Uh-oh... :)

Matthew H
04-17-2013, 11:47 AM
BTW, the whales haven't even gotten their catalogs yet, so it's way too early to comment on prices.

drc
04-17-2013, 11:49 AM
Now if you pay for my bidding advice and appraisal services, you're home free.

Just be warned, I grew up in Wisconsin and will probably have you bidding on Cecil Cooper and Gorman Thomas lots.

"In good conscience, I can't allow you to bit on a Yankees card."

autograf
04-17-2013, 11:50 AM
Chao.....party of 1.....

Zone91
04-17-2013, 11:58 AM
I have a few cards in mind I am sure I can give the whales a run for their money.:D

markf31
04-17-2013, 12:01 PM
I've had my preliminary bids in for a little while now... now waiting another entire month until the auction ends is going to suck.

drc
04-17-2013, 12:01 PM
That hurts. I've been doing my sit ups and watching my ice cream.

frankbmd
04-17-2013, 12:05 PM
I have a few cards in mind I am sure I can give the whales a run for their money.:D


Enjoy the trip, my friend

Zone91
04-17-2013, 12:06 PM
Yeah I will not bid until the last couple of minutes I see no point in doing so. I know I will lose some and win some but yeah that is the game right.

sbfinley
04-17-2013, 12:08 PM
Top shelf items...top shelf prices..usually they jump way up during extended bidding. :D

Do not pay attention to the pre-auction REA estimates. Double them and then you are starting to get in the ballpark. This two month window we are in is Christmas for Pre-War collectors.

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 12:10 PM
Yeah I will not bid until the last couple of minutes I see no point in doing so. I know I will lose some and win some but yeah that is the game right.

Read the rules and fully understand them before you commit to that game plan.

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 12:12 PM
Looks way better than 95% of what Ebay has to offer at better prices!!

top shelf prices..usually they jump way up during extended bidding. :D

Do not pay attention to the pre-auction REA estimates. Double them and then you are starting to get in the ballpark..

It would do you good to research the past years auctions and look at reserves/estimates on the lots and what they actually sold for.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 12:12 PM
bn2cardz's

I will have to read them.

Do you have the link to their rules trying to find them and can't seem to locate them on their website?

rainier2004
04-17-2013, 12:25 PM
bn2cardz's

I will have to read them.

Do you have the link to their rules trying to find them and can't seem to locate them on their website?

Front page, top bar labeled "terms&conditions".

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/terms.aspx

Leon
04-17-2013, 12:43 PM
By the looks of this thread I would say Rob might have his hands full. :eek:

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 12:45 PM
By the looks of this thread I would say Rob might have his hands full. :eek:

Or his lawyer.

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 12:58 PM
bn2cardz's

I will have to read them.

Do you have the link to their rules trying to find them and can't seem to locate them on their website?

You agreed to them when you signed up to bid.

brob28
04-17-2013, 01:21 PM
or his lawyer.

lol!

calvindog
04-17-2013, 01:21 PM
Chao.....party of 1.....

This line has made Net 54 bearable today.

tiger8mush
04-17-2013, 01:23 PM
You agreed to them when you signed up to bid.

lol Classic!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:24 PM
I know but had only read half of them busy day at work I will finish reading them today.

Jewish-collector
04-17-2013, 01:26 PM
Adrian - This auction will separate the men from the boys.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:29 PM
Jewish-collector

I can stand with the best of them if I really have to but will not go crazy and over bid like no tomorrow...no need to waste cash just to prove a point. I just purchased a 52 Topps Mantle rookie in PSA 4 for 12950$ so yes I can for sure stand my own with the whales.

Here are a few cards I have added to my collection the 1887 old Judge my brother was the buyer and we decided to split the cost 50/50:

Links:

1909 E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/400328924290?...84.m1497.l2649

1909 T206 Ray Demmitt error card:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321106309561?...84.m1497.l2649

1887 Old Judge Harry Wright PSA 5:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230963589536?...84.m1497.l2649

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 4:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1497.l2649

pawpawdiv9
04-17-2013, 01:31 PM
I actually looked at this auction house. never used it before, but theres several items i like to own.

You guys keep bidding on the 1st issue of Playboy...while i might sneak and grab a lot.

BTW- Heritage is running..and has nice stuff there...but REA has much better items for my goal searching needs, tho HA does have several low-end 52 #311 RC's for bid.
HECK, i placed bids everywhere...SHHH!! dont tell the old lady...She wont know.

Eric72
04-17-2013, 01:32 PM
I know but had only read half of them busy day at work I will finish reading them today.

Busy day at work? I was unaware Leon hired you to post in threads all afternoon:D

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:33 PM
Eric72

Hahaha lolllll just taking a 45 minute brake from the chaos here at work.

smotan_02
04-17-2013, 01:36 PM
45 minute "brake" and ability to drop 10K+ on cards? Im in the wrong profession.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:38 PM
smotan_02

Hahahaha lolllll....I work for myself....and yes it feels good!!!

4815162342
04-17-2013, 01:40 PM
...I just purchased a 52 Topps Mantle rookie in PSA 4 for 12950$ so yes I can for sure stand my own with the whales...

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 4:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1497.l2649

Ouch! Maybe you should add pricing research to your reading list.

http://www.cardtarget.com/cgi-bin/gm_price_history.cgi?cardID=1309280729&grade=4

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:41 PM
4815162342

Mine is way nicer than 95% to 99% of them there so I am OK with the price and VERY happy with my Mantle rookie.

I went to that site before buying and concluded that mine was worth the price it is as nice a graded 4 comes. And have have had 2 serious offers from other people already for it for more than I paid for it so I did good!!!

jcmtiger
04-17-2013, 01:44 PM
Looks way better than 95% of what Ebay has to offer at better prices!!

Thanks for the people who sent me the link...appreciate the help!!!

Like everone else has probably already posted. Do not get excited about the starting bids, they will go real high.

Joe

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:48 PM
jcmtiger

I understand I have bid on some very rare coins in the past at auctions and I realize starting prices mean nothing in the end. Win some lose some at least we get another day to put up a fight.

tonyo
04-17-2013, 01:51 PM
And have have had 2 serious offers from other people already for it for more than I paid for it so I did good!!!

huh? why do you suppose they didn't just buy it from ebay?

Zone91
04-17-2013, 01:54 PM
tonyo

Was on Ebay only a few minutes then I purchased it I was lucky to find it at that specific time (was just checking a few minutes before and it was not there then about a hour later it showed up on Ebay). I check Ebay ALL the time and every couple of hours for cards I want for my collection....the only way to get those cards we want before others do.

Yes I am a dedicated collector like I said I only know a little on pre war cards but a lot on post war cards.

Eric72
04-17-2013, 01:59 PM
I am OK with the price and VERY happy with my Mantle rookie.



Are we still talking about the '52 Topps, or are you referring to a '51 Bowman?




...have have had 2 serious offers from other people already for it for more than I paid for it so I did good!!!



Do you have the card in hand yet?

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 02:01 PM
Jewish-collector

I can stand with the best of them if I really have to but will not go crazy and over bid like no tomorrow...no need to waste cash just to prove a point. I just purchased a 52 Topps Mantle rookie in PSA 4 for 12950$ so yes I can for sure stand my own with the whales.

Here are a few cards I have added to my collection the 1887 old Judge my brother was the buyer and we decided to split the cost 50/50:

Links:

1909 E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/400328924290?...84.m1497.l2649

1909 T206 Ray Demmitt error card:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321106309561?...84.m1497.l2649

1887 Old Judge Harry Wright PSA 5:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230963589536?...84.m1497.l2649

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 4:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1497.l2649

I am OK with the price and VERY happy with my Mantle rookie.
!

You do know this isn't his Rookie right? This can be considered his Topps rookie (first Topps card), but he had Bowman card in 1951 that would be his true rookie.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:01 PM
Eric72

Yes received it yesterday. I was talking to a few people and they offered me more than what I paid for it.

Bestdj777
04-17-2013, 02:02 PM
tonyo

Was on Ebay only a few minutes then I purchased it I was lucky to find it at that specific time (was just checking a few minutes before and it was not there then about a hour later it showed up on Ebay). I check Ebay ALL the time and every couple of hours for cards I want for my collection....the only way to get those cards we want before others do.

Yes I am a dedicated collector like I said I only know a little on pre war cards but a lot on post war cards.

Isn't this the same Mantle you posted a link to on the prewar side? I could swear you stated on that thread that you did not end up purchasing the card...

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:03 PM
bn2cardz

Yes I am aware of his 51 Bowman card I know it is his true rookie but the 52 Topps is way way more in demand with collectors. I will bu ya 51 Bowman one day.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:03 PM
Bestdj777

Did not want people to know until I had received it threw the mail. To prevent others from trying to get the card outside of Ebay threw the seller...this has happened in the past to me a few times....I know how to protect myself from this now.

chaddurbin
04-17-2013, 02:05 PM
congrats on the nice cards and prices paid.

Jewish-collector

I can stand with the best of them if I really have to but will not go crazy and over bid like no tomorrow...no need to waste cash just to prove a point. I just purchased a 52 Topps Mantle rookie in PSA 4 for 12950$ so yes I can for sure stand my own with the whales.

Here are a few cards I have added to my collection the 1887 old Judge my brother was the buyer and we decided to split the cost 50/50:

Links:

1909 E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/400328924290?...84.m1497.l2649

1909 T206 Ray Demmitt error card:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321106309561?...84.m1497.l2649

1887 Old Judge Harry Wright PSA 5:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/230963589536?...84.m1497.l2649

1952 Topps Mickey Mantle PSA 4:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/271189783652?...84.m1497.l2649

Bestdj777
04-17-2013, 02:05 PM
Deleted.

Eric72
04-17-2013, 02:06 PM
Eric72

Yes received it yesterday. I was talking to a few people and they offered me more than what I paid for it.

Glad to hear that it arrived safely. Can you post a picture of it? The images in the auction have a watermark at the bottom which I find distracting.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:07 PM
Bestdj777

Was keeping it on the down low as they say!!!:)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:08 PM
Eric72

Do you mean on the Mantle card or another card? I will have to borrow a camera from my brother I do not own one not the type to take pictures much.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:09 PM
chaddurbin

Thanks!!!!:)

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 02:10 PM
bn2cardz

Yes I am aware of his 51 Bowman card I know it is his true rookie but the 52 Topps is way way more in demand with collectors. I will bu ya 51 Bowman one day.

That is fine, you kept referring to it being his RC and just wanted to make sure you knew that it wasn't really his rookie. It really just depends on what you wanted. If you want his most desired card you got it. If you want his rookie you don't have it.

Eric72
04-17-2013, 02:10 PM
Eric72

I will have to borrow a camera from my brother I do not own one not the type to take pictures much.

Oh. OK. I see.

Well, whenever you can get around to it, please do share with the group.

And have a tremendous day.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:12 PM
bn2cardz

I will buy the 51 Bowman for sure one day probably in PSA 7. But tome some this is his Topps Rookie card since Topps started in 52. That is why I say rookie card.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:13 PM
Eric72

What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

deadballera
04-17-2013, 02:14 PM
my xmas wish list is here !

Bestdj777
04-17-2013, 02:14 PM
Eric72

What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

He meant that he auction picture had a watermark (A mark to prevent people from stealing the picture), not te card itself.

I would love to see your collection. Do you have a camera phone by chance?

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:16 PM
Bestdj777

Ah OK was wondering.

No sorry no camera I will have to borrow one from my brother I was never the camera type of guy.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:17 PM
deadballera

Lollllll!!!

cyseymour
04-17-2013, 02:17 PM
Adrian, I gotta say congrats, man. Boy, you are aggressive! I haven't seen anything like it. But you bought popular cards that will probably increase in value. Personally, I can't say about the prices, I honestly don't know much about Mantle prices or anything outside of the 19th Century stuff. But you've got to be happy with cards. The Harry Wright, yes it is faded, but it is still Harry Wright, and a PSA 5. Can't be too bad. So I send you congratulations, and as long as you're enjoying yourself and the hobby, then rave on!!!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:19 PM
cyseymour

Thanks sir means a lot!!! Yes I am having a lot of fun I quite collecting coins (To many bad people and to many other bad things in that hobby) and now only focusing of rarer cards....sold off my last coin the other day and that allowed me to pick up all these cards and a few others in the future.

Yes the Old Judge card I am very happy to own he was a pioneer of baseball (Uniforms and Stats).

Leon
04-17-2013, 02:21 PM
Eric72

What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

Why are you saying you have the Mantle in hand when you haven't paid for it yet? Is it a different card than the PSA 4, 1952 in the link?

Did I miss something?

Eric72
04-17-2013, 02:22 PM
Eric72

What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

As Bestdj777 indicated, the (artifical) watermark is on the image only, and not on the card itself.

http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/EricsPhotographs/52Mantlefront_zps3dc71938.jpg

Edited to add: Should go without saying; however, not my card.

glchen
04-17-2013, 02:22 PM
Eric72

What card are you referring to with the water mark? I have the Mantle in my hand and all looks good there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

Might just be me, but I think Eric and some others have doubts on whether you really won these cards, which is why they want to see pictures.

Leon
04-17-2013, 02:23 PM
Might just be me, but I think Eric and some others have doubts on whether you really won these cards, which is why they want to see pictures.

Oh, he won at least 2 of them. I can assure you of that.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:26 PM
Guys I did win all 4 Leon or someone can contact Tonyetrade and ask and you will be told I did purchase the Mantle and the PSA 5 Old Judge card if the seller is allowed to say that or not I do not know the privacy laws.

Leon
04-17-2013, 02:27 PM
Guys I did win all 4 Leon or someone can contact Tonyetrade and ask and you will be told I did purchase the Mantle and the PSA 5 Old Judge card.

Already did.

HRBAKER
04-17-2013, 02:27 PM
You can't find entertainment like this just anywhere!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:29 PM
Leon

Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.

bender07
04-17-2013, 02:30 PM
Man I wish I had something Adrian was looking for! Price doesn't seem to be much of a factor.

Leon
04-17-2013, 02:31 PM
Leon

Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.

Yeap and got an invitation to come stay with him for a few days for a vacation too. It's a small hobby,. Gotta run to chat with folks much less fortunate than most of us. Back later......

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:32 PM
Leon

Thanks for confirming that I do indeed own these 4 cards appreciate it.:)

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 02:33 PM
Leon

Then you now know I was indeed the wining bidder on the 1887 Old Judge and 52 Topps Mantle.

Why are you saying you have the Mantle in hand when you haven't paid for it yet? Is it a different card than the PSA 4, 1952 in the link?

Did I miss something?

I think that is why Leon knows it wasn't paid for yet and knows that you can't have the card yet as you claimed. (Purely speculation by the posts)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:34 PM
bender07

I only pay what I think is right for a card based on the look of the card no the holder...I wiser than that learned from been a sucker in the card trade before cards where graded by companies.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:35 PM
bn2cardz

Speak to Leon in private he will explain the whole picture of my tactics to you.

Eric72
04-17-2013, 02:36 PM
Guys I did win all 4



Well, I will certainly admit that I was mistaken. And I do apologize.

Congratulations on your excellent acquisitions.

Sincerely,

Eric

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:37 PM
Eric72

Thanks!!!:)

Baseball Rarities
04-17-2013, 02:50 PM
...there is a mark on the Mike Mitchell error card from the E90-1 Caramel set.

What is the error on the Mike Mitchell card?

Zone91
04-17-2013, 02:55 PM
Is it not a team variation error card that is what I believed? I purchased the card because I knew it was rare and I collect rarer cards I supposed it was a card like the T206 Ray Demmitt and Bill O'Hara I must be wrong.
To be honest I never even heard of this card before a few weeks ago.

Baseball Rarities
04-17-2013, 02:59 PM
It is a variation card like the T206 Demmitt card and the Bill O'Hara card....the card has a stain on the top right corner on the front of the card.

What is the variation? Can you post a link or a picture of the other variation?

bn2cardz
04-17-2013, 03:00 PM
Isn't this the same Mantle you posted a link to on the prewar side? I could swear you stated on that thread that you did not end up purchasing the card...
Bestdj777

Did not want people to know until I had received it threw the mail. To prevent others from trying to get the card outside of Ebay threw the seller...this has happened in the past to me a few times....I know how to protect myself from this now.

Bestdj777

Was keeping it on the down low as they say!!!:)

bn2cardz

Speak to Leon in private he will explain the whole picture of my tactics to you.

I assume it is the same picture painted above. You lie because you are paranoid of people wanting to swoop in on your purchases.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:02 PM
bn2cardz

Pretty much had a few bad experiences with coin dealers in the past. And that really sucked BIG time!!! Trying to stay away and prevent it from happening again. I do not know much about the dealers I purchased from so I decided to protect myself. I personally think that is understandable....and then again maybe you do not....but I do!!!

bender07
04-17-2013, 03:03 PM
Is it not a team variation error card that is what I believed? I purchased the card because I knew it was rare and I collect rarer cards I supposed it was a card like the T206 Ray Demmitt and Bill O'Hara I must be wrong.
To be honest I never even heard of this card before a few weeks ago.
Is there a race I'm not aware of? You're ripping through cash!

frankbmd
04-17-2013, 03:04 PM
I know where you can get a camera for less than $10K, but I can get you an even better deal on a scanner. Just PM me.;)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:05 PM
bender07

2500$ was a bad buy in your opinion? No no race just a few rarer cards I wanted to add to my set. I know it is considered the Honus Wagner of Caramel cards but do not know why?? Can you explain? I figured they must not come up for sale often so why not buy it.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:07 PM
frankbmd

Not that I can't afford one just never was one to take pictures I have like 5 pictures of myself in the last 10 years and 2 where for passports once every time they expired. I have no kids or wife so a camera was not in my things to buy.

glchen
04-17-2013, 03:13 PM
bender07

2500$ was a bad buy in your opinion? No no race just a few rarer cards I wanted to add to my set. I know it is considered the Honus Wagner of Caramel cards but do not know why?? Can you explain? I figured they must not come up for sale often so why not buy it.

I think Mark and others (including myself) are somewhat concerned about the prices that you are paying. Some of the sellers you are buying from including bmw have some of the most overpriced BINs on ebay. There are many collectors in the hobby who enthusiastically purchase cards at high prices when they first enter the hobby, but later become discouraged and unhappy when they are later unable to re-sell the cards for their purchase price when they need to unload them. The fear is that you are walking down the same path, which we hope doesn't happen.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:16 PM
glchen

Please tell what cards I overpaid for (My guess is all of them)...cards are selling for a lot more than say a few years ago especially the old stuff in nice condition. I could have found a Mantle say for 10k and not 13k but the centering would have sucked or some stain would have bothered me I wanted my Mantle centered and with ZERO stains or marks of ANY kind.

Please point me in the direction of where I can find these rarer cards (That are problem free for the most part) for so much less elsewhere and I will GLADLY go in that direction in the future. Where can I find a 1887 Old Judge Harry Wright graded PSA 5 elsewhere...there are simply none available (to rare to wait 5 years to locate another one...I am a collector and hence collect I can't stand waiting 5 years for a golden deal...that would never amount to much if I waited 5 years per card I add to my collection...in the end I would have like 6-8 cards then time for me to leave Earth)?

I understand what you guys are saying be patient but some of these cards only come up every other year that is to long in my opinion to not be collecting....just to save say a 100$ on a card.

Almost NO hobby is rewarding financially NONE!!!

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 03:24 PM
Just as every generation throws a hero up the pop charts, every generation has a collector who rushes in gobbling up cards without regard to price. Anyone remember Charles Nisenbau? Rocketslover? etc. etc. If you're that well off that a few thousand here a few thousand there is immaterial, then go for it and enjoy, but if you are concerned about making wise expenditures, slow down, take a deep breath, do some research, and learn to negotiate. Good luck.

MattyC
04-17-2013, 03:28 PM
For what it's worth, I've dealt with tonyetrade before and did not find him to be overpriced.

It is true that collectors will often happily pay a premium for the specific example that appeals to their eye. Whether one is a stickler for centering, registration, corners, etc., we all know that not all cards with the same label command the same price.

The PSA 4 pictured is a very clean image of Mantle. That said, you can definitely improve on that centering, if centering is your thing. This is only a 3 but the eye appeal is pretty strong...

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/mickey-mantle/9804/1952-topps-mickey-mantle-311

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:30 PM
Peter_Spaeth

I did negotiate on these cards most of them the dealer dropped a lot from the asking prices. For example the 1887 Old Judge was listed for 5500$ I got it for 4250$ and the Mike Mitchell was at 5000$ I believe and I got it for 2500$...I know the dealers price there stuff way high to make us think we are getting a great deal but at least I got a deal and did not pay full asking prices.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:31 PM
MattyC

You see that Mantle in a 3 does nothing for me (creased at the bottom...colors not vibrant (+ browning) as they should be on this blue beauty and the centering to me is not appealing)...beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I would not buy that card but that is me....I am sorry to say so but that is the truth in my situation.

glchen
04-17-2013, 03:34 PM
Obviously, these are older listings, but the E90-1 card that you just bought sold for ~1300 in 2009 here: Link (http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=716&lotNo=81075). (You may need to register with Heritage auctions to see the price.) A better condition card in SGC3 sold for ~1500 in 2010 here: Link (http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7028&lotNo=80044).

The Harry Wright is a great card in PSA5, BUT, Old Judge collectors rarely go by the grade assigned by the third party graders. The reason is for Old Judges image quality is much more important that characteristics such as corner sharpness since Old Judge cards are like photos. Therefore, since the card that you purchased is faded, it may be PSA5 in technical terms, but Old Judge collectors would consider it "overgraded."

Anyway, I don't want to throw water on your purchases especially since you seem like such an enthusiastic new collector. People on the board want to see you happy with your purchases, and you certainly are happy now. We just don't want you to regret it later on, which almost always happens with new collectors. This was the same with me also. When I first re-entered the hobby, I bought a lot of things for prices where now, given what I know, I consider myself an idiot back then.

In pre-war collecting, there are many extremely rare cards. There are many, many cards that are very sought after. That is why there is rarely a deal that needs to be made now. You might miss this awesome Harry Wright card now, but later on, you may find another awesome Old Judge card that is equally rare and sought after. There are so different images and cards in prewar, collectors change focus one after the other because there are too many things to collect. We see pickups that other collectors get, and we start to want to get into that area also. Therefore, there will always be plenty of ways to spend your hard earned money on cards that you will be happy to have in your collection. Happy collecting!

MattyC
04-17-2013, 03:36 PM
No worries, all good. Wasn't trying to sell it to ya. Just making a centering comparison, as the 4 seemed pretty OC t/b, and rather its strength seems to me the cleanliness of the image and strong surface. But again it's all in the buyer's eye.

conor912
04-17-2013, 03:37 PM
I know that there is an Ignore List for posts, but is there any way to not see entire threads started by a specific user?

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:37 PM
glchen

That makes a LOT of sens I will for sure make a mental note!!!:)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:38 PM
conor912

Do you want us to talk about you (do you require a little bit of attention at the moment) if that is the case create a post...and people will participate if they chose to and simply ignore it if they chose not to!!!:D

DaveW
04-17-2013, 03:40 PM
Let's take a look at some of "Adrian's" qualities and see if we can figure out who this really is:
- single, no kids
- likes to impress us with his high end cards and how much money he spends
- never shows scans of his cards (claims to not have a scanner)
- poor use of grammar and spelling but claims to have a high level of education
- seems to enjoy annoying us
- gets belligerent when challenged
- has a brother who also buys high end cards

Hey, are you really just one of the Bruces?

CharleyBrown
04-17-2013, 03:41 PM
I think Adrian has to be the most enthusiastic collector I've ever across.

Anyhow - kudos to you on your purchases.

I've dealt with tonyEtrade before, and found him to be more than reasonable on his pricing.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:43 PM
DaveW

To be honest that is pathetic on your part I am never one to show off I simply buy rarer more expensive cards hence I show those cards off and for having bad grammar my 1st language is French NOT English. Try speaking French here so we can laugh at you for not been a French person...NOW that would make a whole lot of sens and would make us French people feel so much better about our selves. What are you a perfect judge are you a lawyer with 10 years of experience to judge someone in 5 minutes.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:44 PM
CharleyBrown

Thanks at least you see it for what it truly is!!!:)

conor912
04-17-2013, 03:45 PM
conor912

Do you want us to talk about you (do you require a little bit of attention at the moment) if that is the case create a post...and people will participate if they chose to and simply ignore it if they chose not to!!!:D

So you start threads just so people will talk about you? Dave, you can add "low self esteem" to your list.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:47 PM
conor912

You be a shit disturber (even worse you can't even start your own topic)...us real collectors hate those types. You can add that to YOUR list!!!:D

Eric72
04-17-2013, 03:48 PM
Try speaking French here



Been there, done that.

:)

conor912
04-17-2013, 03:50 PM
conor912

You be a shit disturber (even worse you can't even start your own topic)...us real collectors hate those types. You can add that to YOUR list!!!:D

You're right. I be a shit disturber.

Dave, I hope you're keeping tabs of these gems.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:51 PM
conor912

Hey here is a idea show us some of your cards get involved!!! Now that would be a evolution in your case and not a useless revolution!!!:D

joeadcock
04-17-2013, 03:52 PM
Agreed, the end price in REA will tend to be quite a bit higher for many of the lots. I have bid some already and will simply wait for the catalog.

The ongoing Heritage Auction has added a bit of competition in the similar time frame.

Adrian, good luck to you.

I do not want to judge what you do in terms of bidding or buying, but patience is not a bad thing. I bought(probably all of us have) some cards a few years ago(that if I had waited), I could have obtained cheaper. But it is your call. It is still a free country(at least for now).

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:54 PM
joeadcock

Good luck to you as well...I have only one card I want I am pretty sure I can win it it is not that expensive of a card...just a nice example.

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 03:55 PM
Peter_Spaeth

I did negotiate on these cards most of them the dealer dropped a lot from the asking prices. For example the 1887 Old Judge was listed for 5500$ I got it for 4250$ and the Mike Mitchell was at 5000$ I believe and I got it for 2500$...I know the dealers price there stuff way high to make us think we are getting a great deal but at least I got a deal and did not pay full asking prices.

I am just saying that I have seen this act before and people end up giving up 20 percent to an auction house to sell the cards at 60-70 percent of what they paid. You have time, none of these overpriced cards are going anywhere, don't rush in.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:57 PM
Peter_Spaeth

Will try my best to be more aware and calm.

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 03:58 PM
Peter_Spaeth

Will try my best to be more aware and calm.

C'est bon. :)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 03:59 PM
Peter_Spaeth

You see that is good french!!!:)

chaddurbin
04-17-2013, 04:01 PM
I am just saying that I have seen this act before and people end up giving up 20 percent to an auction house to sell the cards at 60-70 percent of what they paid. You have time, none of these overpriced cards are going anywhere, don't rush in.

this guy is no fun at all, impulse buys are the best!!!

edited out the jibber jabber.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 04:03 PM
chaddurbin

I guess that card will be a live and learn card. Why is it so rare as people say? I was told that there are about 100 to 150 examples known compared to say the T206 Ray Demmitt with about 200 to 400 known.

Matthew H
04-17-2013, 04:13 PM
You overpaid about 1500 on the Wright... Who cares though, right? Just enjoy it.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 04:15 PM
Matthew H

That is what I plan on doing can't always do the right thing in life and always play safe we certainly can try to do better.:cool:

The Wright last sold for 4000$ a few years ago and I paid 4250$ so I paid 250$ to much for it not 1500$. Personally I do see cards as a investment probably never will.

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 04:20 PM
chaddurbin

I guess that card will be a live and learn card. Why is it so rare as people say? I was told that there are about 100 to 150 examples known compared to say the T206 Ray Demmitt with about 200 to 400 known.

As i recall nobody has a good explanation. That said, keep in mind itbis a common and only of value to set builders and the set while popular cant touch t206 and other sets where there will always be an influx of new buyers. So that is a recipe for declining value over time as there is less competition for each available copy.

Shoele$$
04-17-2013, 04:25 PM
I have a headache already....

Matthew H
04-17-2013, 04:29 PM
Matthew H

That is what I plan on doing can't always do the right thing in life and always play safe we certainly can try to do better.:cool:

The Wright last sold for 4000$ a few years ago and I paid 4250$ so I paid 250$ to much for it not 1500$. Personally I do see cards as a investment probably never will.

Value is an opinion, but you're wrong about previous pricing... It sold for close to 3k (still a bit high) I think he might have had a hard time getting his money back had you not come along... Now he's probably eating steak ;)

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=15353

HRBAKER
04-17-2013, 04:30 PM
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Zone91
04-17-2013, 04:31 PM
Matthew H

Here is the last sale on Heritage for the EXACT same card.

Link:

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7041&lotIdNo=380001#71067106230

Sold for 3883$. So I paid +- 400$ more over a 2 year period because it sold in 2011 on Heritage for that price.

I do my research before paying if I only saw the auction you talked about at less than 3000$ I would not have paid 4250$ for it believe me!!!

thunderdan
04-17-2013, 04:40 PM
Thinking of bidding on this one. Any of you Goudey experts: does side to side look ok (i.e. not trimmed)? Those borders look pretty thin, though perfectly centered.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=24554

Zone91
04-17-2013, 04:43 PM
hiyoh

There is a nice one on Ebay graded a 7 and you can make a best offer (pretty sure he can come down a LOT)...good seller as well .

Link:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Goudey-BABE-RUTH-144-PSA-7-NM-An-Epic-Card-/290899166634?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43baf105aa

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 04:43 PM
Hey the more folks to this hobby the better, folks who want to spend money that’s even better. Adrian enjoy you’re collecting take a little advice if you feel it adds value.

For the rest of the guys who want to be your financial advisors tell them to worry about their money and not yours.

Nice cards and pickups.

Cheers,

John

Zone91
04-17-2013, 04:44 PM
wonkaticket

Thanks!!! Will do.:)

You can see on page 12 that I did not overpay much for the 1887 Old Judge card last sold for 388$ in 2011 and I paid 4250$ 2 years later in 2013.

thunderdan
04-17-2013, 04:48 PM
hiyoh

There is a nice one on Ebay graded a 7 and you can make a best offer (pretty sure he can come down a LOT)...good seller as well .

Link:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1933-Goudey-BABE-RUTH-144-PSA-7-NM-An-Epic-Card-/290899166634?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43baf105aa

Considering I used to own that very card, probably not. Reason I sold it in the first place was to upgrade.

Matthew H
04-17-2013, 04:49 PM
Matthew H

Here is the last sale on Heritage for the EXACT same card.

Link:

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7041&lotIdNo=380001#71067106230

Sold for 3883$. So I paid +- 400$ more over a 2 year period because it sold in 2011 on Heritage for that price.

I do my research before paying if I only saw the auction you talked about at less than 3000$ I would not have paid 4250$ for it believe me!!!


My mistake... Wonka is right, don't let any of us tell you how to spend your money... You earned it, it's yours.

I've paid retail for a few cards that caught my eye, it's no big deal. Just enjoy yourself and try not to burn yourself out too quick.

-Matt

tonyo
04-17-2013, 05:11 PM
......................... I am never one to show off I simply buy rarer more expensive cards hence I show those cards off ..................

Make up your mind, dude...............:rolleyes:





also it seems that maybe it's an unwritten rule around here to not announce what price you paid for a card.

Maybe I've missed it all these (3) years but it seems the other big spenders normally humbly post their pickups (usually in the monthly pickup thread) without dollar signs attached and the compliments roll in anyway.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 05:15 PM
tonyo

People who collect expensive cards show those cards off that does not make them a SHOW OFF you could not figure that out on your own really...that is from the book on life?:eek:

You are making me feel smarter by the minute continue writing what you write....now that's me been a SHOW OFF....hahahaha!!!

I post the prices because ANYONE can find them I simply save them time..any good writer puts references for what the write about...did you not know that!!!

4815162342
04-17-2013, 05:24 PM
...Yes I am having a lot of fun I quite collecting coins (To many bad people and to many other bad things in that hobby)...

I'm glad there's no bad people nor bad things in this hobby! Whew!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 05:26 PM
4815162342

There are as you well know but there seems to a balance of good people and bad people as for coin collectors they are mostly bad/nasty people. Grumpy old men mostly collect coins.

tonyo
04-17-2013, 05:59 PM
tonyo

People who collect expensive cards show those cards off that does not make them a SHOW OFF you could not figure that out on your own really...that is from the book on life?:eek:

You are making me feel smarter by the minute continue writing what you write....now that's me been a SHOW OFF....hahahaha!!!

I post the prices because ANYONE can find them I simply save them time..any good writer puts references for what the write about...did you not know that!!!

ummm....I didn't call you a show off, simply asked you to make up your mind.

And also made a wish for humility. I love to see the cards in folks collections - I don't really care how much they cost others - I just like to look at cards. I'll check the book on life to see if it is possible to look at cards without knowing what they cost.;)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:06 PM
tonyo

Lolllll!! Have a nice evening sir!!

ngrow9
04-17-2013, 06:06 PM
Nevermind, not worth it.

Jewish-collector
04-17-2013, 06:09 PM
Adrian - Do try to come to the National and the Net54 dinner this year. It's always nice to meet a new collector.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:09 PM
ngrow9

Hahaha nice try to make me feel bad try again wit a better come back at least!!!!:D

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:11 PM
Jewish-collector

I will see what I can do I need to get a new passport done (I will get one done soon for sure). I will not bring any cards to show because of customs and security reasons. I can't say just yet because a lot can happen from here till then.

GoldenAge50s
04-17-2013, 06:21 PM
There are several in this thread who are doing their best to try & belittle your purchases. It can only be one thing--They are jealous as hell!

You bought some quality cards that I only wish I could afford and I applaud you for being able to do it!

Disregard the jealous slams, whether you overpaid or not, & the snide remarks & do your thing!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:23 PM
GoldenAge50s

Thanks sir for having the courage to state that here on the forum!!! As they say some people will just simply NEVER be happy in their there own lives how can they be happy for others....just glad I am NOT one of those poor people!!!

barrysloate
04-17-2013, 06:26 PM
If my count is correct Adrian has so far posted 56 times in this thread.

GrayGhost
04-17-2013, 06:27 PM
Its nice you can buy what u want. But, if u read this forum, not a lot gloat about how much they spend. Some of us on here can't even buy a 20.00 card. Is thatjealousy? YES IT IS, but I wouldn't gloat that I spent thousands here and there if I did have the money, makes other s feel lousy.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:27 PM
barrysloate

Actually it is 56 times!!!!!!:D

barrysloate
04-17-2013, 06:28 PM
Actually it's now 57.... and the night is still young:)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:28 PM
GrayGhost

Not my intention at all I grew up poor I understand what you mean...next time out of respect I will not mention the price I paid.

cyseymour
04-17-2013, 06:29 PM
First of all, let's not get all sacrosanct about the cards and prices here. We live in a free market, I think everyone is aware of price and is unafraid to discuss what things are worth. Now, whether we would choose to do that with folks outside the collecting community, it could be distasteful without being asked. I've debated whether to tell people even when asked, but inside the hobby is a different story. Everyone here is spending cash on cards - let's face it.

Adrian, did he overpay? It is a matter of opinion, really. Probably, yes. But not dramatically, and he generally bought classic cards. PSA 5 Wright, it last sold for $3850, there were two other people out there willing to pay in that range, he is not alone then. If PSA set registry guys start to jump all over the set, the price could explode, they don't care if the image is faded or whatever. Anything is possible.

Yeah, Adrian has been impulsive, but he has got the cash to burn. When I had cash, I tore through it, I was even worse than Adrian, I mean, I bought two blockbuster cards in the span of three months. Granted, I purchased them at auction, it's a little different (or a lot different), but the point being that it's easy to burn through money when you've got it.

I also smoked through $5750 buying a Whitney with Dog card. Hall of Famer? No. Rare pose? Nyet. But I love the card, so who's to really say? Adrian obviously didn't want to follow my advice and wait for the auctions, it's his prerogative. Doesn't sound like he did too badly on the Mick, that must be a hot card right now if he's gotten two offers already.

Point being, he's one of us. He's a collector, he's got his ways, there are maybe more savvy collectors out there, but we've all seen worse, and even if his style is a bit manic, he belongs on the board, he is one of us. The hobby needs new collectors, it is the only way it can grow. So welcome, Adrian, and again, congrats on the pickups. Enjoy.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:29 PM
barrysloate

Yes it yes it is!!!!

nolemmings
04-17-2013, 06:29 PM
If my count is correct Adrian has so far posted 56 times in this thread.

It can only mean one thing Barry--you're jealous as hell!!!

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:31 PM
cyseymour

Many many thanks for taking the time to write what you did!!!:)

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:33 PM
So just to make sure I'm following all of this correctly, you dropped $4,000+ on a Harry Wright Old Judge that is so faded I wouldn't pay $20 for it, when you didn't even know who he was a couple days ago, on the basis it is a PSA 5, but then claim to have bought the Mantle on the basis of the card not the grade? And you dropped $2,500 on a E90 you weren't even aware of a few days ago, when you aren't even sure if it is a variation or not?

Who cares what you would buy no offense. He’s the one who bought them and he’s happy. I would bet the seller is too. So in then end your opinion on the subject doesn’t affect or even register with the two parties involved.

To all on prices while I agree that you can buy collectibles smart and within certain ranges in terms of price, if you educate yourself a bit and exercise a bit of patience. However with that said at the end of the day the bulk of this is worth what someone is willing to pay you for it. These are not things with firm regulated fixed prices.

Win some you lose some that’s the name of the collecting game. Adrian is stoked he found this hobby he’s doing his buying sprint let him enjoy it and be happy he has the interest to be so excited about a hobby we all have money tied too.

Now I do agree Adrian can post them in the pickups with the rest of jackwagons. :)

Sure the occasional look what I did thread is cool but lots of them can rub folks the wrong way etc. but in the end C'est la vie.

Cheers,

John

barrysloate
04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
It can only mean one thing Barry--you're jealous as hell!!!

I have over 5800 posts and I fear Adrian will pass me a week from Tuesday.:(

HRBAKER
04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
barrysloate

Yes it yes it is!!!!

You are catching a break as Barry has retired as the board's spelling cop.
By the way, great cards. If you like 'em it don't matter what others think.

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
Its nice you can buy what u want. But, if u read this forum, not a lot gloat about how much they spend. Some of us on here can't even buy a 20.00 card. Is thatjealousy? YES IT IS, but I wouldn't gloat that I spent thousands here and there if I did have the money, makes other s feel lousy.

Too soon for my pick up pic? :)

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/junkforumimages/small/1981_5130_1_1%20copy.jpg

GoldenAge50s
04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
At this rate Adrian will pass you in about an hour & a half!:)

(Posted the same time as your Post 147!)

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:34 PM
wonkaticket

Very well said sir!!!:)

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:37 PM
I also smoked through $5750 buying a Whitney with Dog card.

As the under bidder happy to make you whole when you are ready the one night I fall asleep....damn 4-5am Amish hour auctions. :)

barrysloate
04-17-2013, 06:42 PM
At this rate Adrian will pass you in about an hour & a half!:)

(Posted the same time as your Post 147!)

:)

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:42 PM
Saying you have never overpaid for something/anything in any collectible hobby is like saying you have ridden a bicycle and have never fallen off you’re either amazing or a liar. :D

Personally I would prefer seeing 100 posts of Adrian dropping coin and talking smack about his new items he’s jazzed about vs. 100 posts about dinks with fake eBay Wagner’s and such. Or dozens of posts from armchair graders ragging other’s eBay auctions all while bumping their overgraded cards in the BST over and over and over….

cyseymour
04-17-2013, 06:43 PM
As the under bidder happy to make you whole when you are ready the one night I fall asleep....damn 4-5am Amish hour auctions. :)

I had a feeling it was you, and I bet you were the underbidder on my Kid Nichols, too. You've cost me a bundle, John!!!:p:p:p

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:45 PM
wonkaticket

2 thumbs up for your comments sir!!!:)

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:47 PM
I had a feeling it was you, and I bet you were the underbidder on my Kid Nichols, too. You've cost me a bundle, John!!!:p:p:p

Jamie you will have time to get me back sadly payback is a bitch….I’m not looking forward to that transaction…”How much for the damn dog card?”.:D

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 06:47 PM
Saying you have never overpaid for something/anything in any collectible hobby is like saying you have ridden a bicycle and have never fallen off you’re either amazing or a liar. :D

Personally I would prefer seeing 100 posts of Adrian dropping coin and talking smack about his new items he’s jazzed about vs. 100 posts about dinks with fake eBay Wagner’s and such. Or dozens of posts from armchair graders ragging other’s eBay auctions all while bumping their overgraded cards in the BST over and over and over….

How about posts on psa vs sgc or graded vs raw or ragging on high BIN prices?

HRBAKER
04-17-2013, 06:48 PM
How about posts on psa vs sgc or graded vs raw or ragging on high BIN prices?

.....or what is XYZ's RC?

Peter_Spaeth
04-17-2013, 06:50 PM
Or shipping costs.

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 06:51 PM
How about posts on psa vs sgc or graded vs raw or ragging on high BIN prices?

Sadly Peter if the posts you and I listed went away Net54 would shut down it would be a like a ghost town with the occasional on topic tumbleweed rolling by. :D

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Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:52 PM
Hahahaha you guys are making laugh so loud!!!!:D

Does it not feel good to live outside the regular daily circle of life some times...I mean most times!!!

Bestdj777
04-17-2013, 06:54 PM
I also smoked through $5750 buying a Whitney with Dog card. Hall of Famer? No. Rare pose? Nyet. But I love the card, so who's to really say?

One of my favorite cards of all time... I have no idea who Whitney is, but that dog is awesome!

Adrian, I am happy that you have found a hobby that you enjoy. Continue to buy what you like in whatever fashion you desire to do so. If you have any questions about anything on the postwar side, always feel free to reach out to me, and I will help where I can. Also, feel free to PM me or ignore me in the future if you don't feel comfortable sharing info in a public setting.

Zone91
04-17-2013, 06:56 PM
Bestdj777

Thanks for extending the olive branch out to me!!!:)

wonkaticket
04-17-2013, 07:02 PM
I go to Montreal quite often as well as Paris it would take one hell of Frenchman let alone one that digs baseball cards to get under my skin.

However there have been a few Québécois that got the job done. :p

Look on the bright side at least he’s not insisting that all his cards be bi-lingual or in bi-lingual packaging. :)

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Cheers,

John

Zone91
04-17-2013, 07:29 PM
wonkaticket

Hahahaha!!!

AMBST95
04-17-2013, 07:52 PM
Some sweet cards. I'd be happy to own that Mick for sure.

itjclarke
04-17-2013, 10:37 PM
http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/mickey-mantle/9804/1952-topps-mickey-mantle-311

MattyC

You see that Mantle in a 3 does nothing for me (creased at the bottom...colors not vibrant (+ browning) as they should be on this blue beauty and the centering to me is not appealing)...beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I would not buy that card but that is me....I am sorry to say so but that is the truth in my situation.

Woah, pretty strong opionions there, but I guess everyone's entitled their's... right?

MattyC, that Mantle does plenty for me. Wish I had one like it. Great card, enjoy it!

(not sure if anyone else responded to this yet, but my eyes are getting tired 11 pages in)

MattyC
04-17-2013, 11:18 PM
Ian,

Thanks. I am actually posting this from the roof of the Capitol Records building here in LA-- was just about to take a swan dive like the opening of Lethal Weapon because of how the OP dissed that PSA 3 Mantle :( (Was just trying to show him the range of centering on lower grade examples, in case he was not in the habit of perusing scans on VCP and wanted centering.)

Luckily I took a look at it and the colors are quite vibrant in hand; I blame my rather bootleg scanner for the lack of a crisp scan-- perhaps I should have borrowed my brother's camera? Alas he's in New York.

Everyone has their own tastes and opinions and I respect that. That said, I will take all these below plus that PSA 3 Mick for the cost of that PSA 4...

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my-collection/9815/1951-bowman-mickey-mantle

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my-collection/9809/1956-topps-mickey-mantle

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my-collection/9819/1954-wilson-franks-ted-williams

Runscott
04-17-2013, 11:25 PM
Ian,

Thanks. I am actually posting this from the roof of the Capitol Records building here in LA-- was just about to take a swan dive like the opening of Lethal Weapon because of how the OP dissed that PSA 3 Mantle :(

It's a nice card. Don't be concerned - he is just missing his governor.

I'm excited about REA, but suspect I will do just as well this Spring as I do every year. Which means I will have no problem paying my mortgage.

MattyC
04-17-2013, 11:31 PM
REA Spring Auction is always a fun time of year. I love that feeling of reaching my max bid on Day Two, before the catalogs are even in the mail! Hey, who knows, a bid can hold for 30 days, right? Seriously though it's always a great time, from discussing the items to the thrill of chasing a great lot, just paging through the catalog, win or lose, lots of fun.

itjclarke
04-17-2013, 11:42 PM
Ian,

Thanks. I am actually posting this from the roof of the Capitol Records building here in LA-- was just about to take a swan dive like the opening of Lethal Weapon

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my
-collection/9815/1951-bowman-mickey-mantle

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my-collection/9809/1956-topps-mickey-mantle

http://www.collectorfocus.com/images/show/mattianc/my-collection/9819/1954-wilson-franks-ted-williams


Glad I could help Matt. Gotta love it when a No Cal picks a So Cal up.. not that you need picking up with that stash! Sweet cards! I myself own very OC examples of the '51 Bowman and '56 Topps Mantles, but the beauty is, off centering never really bothered me (and I won't let 10,000 posts saying otherwise sway me)

Curious, had you jumped, would have left your shirt unbuttoned so it would flap open in the breeze while you lay atop a squished car? Also, you may not be out of the woods yet, I'm pretty sure they laced your powder

MattyC
04-17-2013, 11:46 PM
I knew that blow smelled curiously of Clorox powder. Gotta get a new dealer.

itjclarke
04-17-2013, 11:53 PM
I'd love it if Mr Joshua was running around as muscle in the memorabilia underworld... Why does a hobby like our's always have to lose those kick ass bad guys to drugs and weapons smuggling. All sports collectibles get left with are crooked white collar auctioneer types (very boring).

teetwoohsix
04-18-2013, 12:41 AM
I'm waiting for Rod Serling to post :)

Sincerely, Clayton

collectbaseball
04-18-2013, 04:21 AM
Let's take a look at some of "Adrian's" qualities and see if we can figure out who this really is:
- single, no kids
- likes to impress us with his high end cards and how much money he spends
- never shows scans of his cards (claims to not have a scanner)
- poor use of grammar and spelling but claims to have a high level of education
- seems to enjoy annoying us
- gets belligerent when challenged
- has a brother who also buys high end cards

Hey, are you really just one of the Bruces?

My prediction: autistic day trader.

Adrian, you should pick up a Hasselblad so you can show off your cards to us. It's really the only way to show them as they deserve to be shown.

gnaz01
04-18-2013, 06:35 AM
My prediction: autistic day trader.

Adrian, you should pick up a Hasselblad

Or a Leica!! I have a $5000 Leica I would be willing to sell for $7000:D

Runscott
04-18-2013, 07:44 AM
Hey, are you really just one of the Bruces?

Each of the Bruces refers to himself as the entire collective group of Bruces;i.e-"We"

Back when I had less self-restraint, I could never tell which Bruce I was talking with. Not knowing how many there were didn't help.

kcohen
04-18-2013, 08:16 AM
Well, reading through this thread has taken me through my second cup of morning coffee. Mission accomplished. Don't understand why there are members of such low self-esteem that they feel compelled to rain on Adrian's party.

Fortunately, the thread was made complete with one of John's photoshop efforts. Sadly lacking lately. You must be busy my friend.

Lastly, I will given some advice to Adrian that is, exactly as most of the other advice given here, worth exactly what he is paying for it.

Adrian - just want you to know that some of my most prized cards, not necessarily the best deals, were obtained as a result of the combination of a late night on-line auction and a few glasses of bourbon. Tough to equal the jolt of an impulse buy.

Courage mon vieux. Amuse-toi bien. Il ne faut jamais oublier que le bons sens n'ont aucun rôle a jouer dans ce hobby. Autrement, personne n'y participerait.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 08:25 AM
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Runscott
04-18-2013, 08:46 AM
Very entertaining thread.

I think zone's enthusiasm is very interesting - enough so that I've largely ignored his earlier off-color comments. I'm sure others have not and that has influenced their responses to his zealous posting, his minor insults of other forum members' cards and his unhidden pride in all aspects of himself.

I wouldn't call such responses to zone the result of "low self-esteem".

Lots of thread police lately.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 08:49 AM
Runscott

I did not even know it was his Mantle card any 52 Topps Mantle owner should be proud of his card....I simply said I prefer the look of the PSA 4 I purchased but I am 100% sure that there is someone here with a 3,4,5,6,7,8 or a 9 and maybe even one of the 3 known 10's that looks better than mine and I am OK with that...maybe they even paid less than I did...but that is fine with me. No grudges here the guy should be happy with his Mantle as I am happy with mine. :)

Zone91
04-18-2013, 08:51 AM
kcohen

I am truly happy with my purchases and that will not change no matter what.

I am going to continue enjoying this hobby that is for sure!!! Thanks for ALL the positive comments and even the negative ones at least we are talking about cards are we not!!!

You guys are ABSOLUTELY right our favorite card does NOT have to be our most expensive one.....that is very very true!!! Personally I prefer the Old Judge (MUCH more history than modern cards) cards and the T206 cards over post war cards....any day of the week!!!

I always wanted a 1914 Baltimore news Babe Ruth or 52 Topps Mantle ''rookie'' since I was much younger BUT I can't afford the Ruth so I purchased the Mantle it is as simple as that. Sold some coins I owned and transferred the funds towards cards. By the way I grew up poor (with no parents...not like lots of people) like lots of people BUT worked my ass off for what I have got in life and I am proud of that....hence not a SHOW OFF...but simply proud of my accomplishments in life.

I worked as a janitor for many many (at 8,50$ per hour) years but put myself threw school and pushed very hard to get a career afterwards and still work hard every day!!! So for those who think we all get the silver spoon treatment when we have some money that is NOT the case some of us worked our buts off every single day like most of you do.

Leon
04-18-2013, 08:52 AM
kcohen

I am truly happy with my purchases and that will not change no matter what.:)

I am going to continue enjoying this hobby that is for sure!!! Thanks for ALL the positive comments and even the negative ones at least we are talking about cards are we not!!!

You guys are ABSOLUTELY right our favorite card does NOT have to be our most expensive one.....that is very very true!!! Personally I prefer the Old Judge (MUCH more history than modern cards) cards and the T206 cards over post war cards....any day of the week!!!

I always wanted a 1914 Baltimore news Babe Ruth or 52 Topps Mantle ''rookie'' since I was much younger BUT I can't afford the Ruth so I purchased the Mantle it is as simple as that. Sold some coins I owned and transferred the funds towards cards.

Adrian- I want to be clear, even though I checked up on one thing, I still believe you and think you are an asset to the board. It's just that the seller of some of those cards happens to be someone I am very hobby-friendly with. So I called him and we spoke for a while. Tony is one of my favorite guys to hang out with at the National, and we do so every year. In that respect, You also should understand that a lot of us go back decades with other board members and are very good and close friends. Some people have said we are a clique, which is sort of true and not a bad thing. We watch out for, and care about, each other. We (definitely me) have all overpaid for cards at one time or another. It comes with the territory. I will echo other sentiments though. You might consider taking your time in doing stuff. You don't have to, and it's your money, so bless you for being in the hobby and buying cards. Most of us have seen collectors burn out quickly by moving too fast. We don't want that to happen to you. But hey, if that is what you want to do, go for it. I have stuck up for you from day one and am still here for you. Please drink a bit less caffeine. :) It's all good my friend.

Runscott
04-18-2013, 08:55 AM
Runscott

I did not even know it was his Mantle card any 52 Topps Mantle owner should be proud of his card....I simply said I prefer the look of the PSA 4 I purchased but I am 100% sure that there is someone here with a 3,4,5,6,7,8 or a 9 and maybe even one of the 3 known 10's that looks better than mine and I am OK with that...maybe they even paid less than I did...but that is fine with me. No grudges here the guy should be happy with his Mantle as I am happy with mine. :)

Zone - I applaud your enthusiasm. I did much the same thing when I re-joined the hobby, only on a much smaller scale, so I get it.

You should try to make it to the National this year - first beer's on me (please do not read that literally).

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:00 AM
Leon

Thanks!!! I had about 3-4 cards I truly wanted and have purchased them all so far except the Bill O'Hara T206 error (a nice PSA 2 would be just fine with me) card after this card I will be going much slower to find some other cards I may want to buy and yes at the BEST PRICE I can find...just could not hold myself back for those 3-4 cards (some of witch I only heard about a few weeks ago like the E90-1 Caramel Mike Mitchell I think that is what makes me look kind of nuts is going after a card I did not know anything about except that it is rare).

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:02 AM
Runscott

I quite drinking on April 26th 2010 (3 years next week...I use to party a LOT from the ages of 14 to 22 and then from 27 to 30) but you can buy me a soft drink with ice (Ice-T or a diet coke) and I will be just as happy with that.:)

I will look into the national show for sure just have to get a new passport done.

pawpawdiv9
04-18-2013, 09:07 AM
I just like his 52 Mantle...I havent the funds to buy one..but i may be on a spending spree at REA.....I may reach the moon.
All i can say, if i had his $$$....i being going after some rare cards myself.
I just reccomend...do research and price comparisons...and do as much of it as possible.

auggiedoggy
04-18-2013, 09:09 AM
Jewish-collector

I will see what I can do I need to get a new passport done (I will get one done soon for sure). I will not bring any cards to show because of customs and security reasons. I can't say just yet because a lot can happen from here till then.

Just bring money! :D :rolleyes:

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:10 AM
pawpawdiv9

Thanks...by the way I am in no way a millionaire yes I have some funds but not like the big whales like you guys call them. I will never be a millionaire either and that is simply a fact of life.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:10 AM
auggiedoggy

Hahaha:)

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:13 AM
By the way guys 15000$ is a LOT of money (the only card I would pay that much for is the the 52 Mantle or maybe a E90-1 Shoeless Joe Jackson) for me as well so when I decide to go ahead and spend that kind of money I want to get the best looking card I can for it. I will repeat I am not a millionaire and never will be one...I did not grow up rich and few if any change social classes during their life time.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:20 AM
Living in Canada I have to buy the right card right of the bat that I truly like because for me to upgrade later on with all the taxes and custom fees would be crazy...so I have to land the right card that suits me the 1st shot and the 52 Mantle suited me....was not a card I would regret down the road.

Here in Canada very few people own a 52 Mantle so I would always take the risk of shipping back and forth from the U.S and I do not want to do that so the cards I get will stay in my collection a long long time.

4815162342
04-18-2013, 09:21 AM
Just out of sheer curiosity . . . what do you do for a living Adrian?

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:25 AM
4815162342

I do research projects with a friend that has his PHD in my field. We get contracts from the Federal government. I have my masters in sociology and he has his doctor's degree....he teaches at the local University and gets many many side job contracts that I work on. He was one my many professors at that school when I was there as a student and we had a lot in common in our way of thinking and work ethics. I work from home basically for myself.

Yes yes I know I do research!!!!

Sounds boring to most but I like reading a lot so I enjoy it and it feels rewarding that is a big plus!!!

auggiedoggy
04-18-2013, 09:31 AM
Here in Canada very few people own a 52 Mantle so I would always take the risk of shipping back and forth from the U.S and I do not want to do that so the cards I get will stay in my collection a long long time.

True of course many of us here in Canada are hockey card collectors. ;)

I collected hockey but switched over to lacrosse when I discovered the C60, C59 and C61 Imperial Tobacco series and the fact that some of these lacrosse players also played hockey!

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:33 AM
auggiedoggy

Gotta love vintage hockey cards they are way way undervalued and very rare....nice cards sir!!! I use to have a very nice hockey card collection but switched to coins for some reason now I am into vintage baseball...life and it's many paths!!! On another note one football card I have always wanted is the Bronko Nagurski 1935 chicle rookie card or the Holy grail of football cards I have looked around for a few months now and they seem to all have bad centering I will wait to find one graded a PSA 3 or PSA 4 well centered with a strong picture...I am in no rush for that card but will buy one when I can find the right one.

Link for those who do not know that card:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/360578257749?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

4815162342
04-18-2013, 09:43 AM
I thought this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1894-N302-Mayo-FB-Anonymous-John-Dunlop-PSA-1-/251260543712?pt=US_Football&hash=item3a804ba2e0) was the holy grail of football cards.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:45 AM
4815162342

You got me on that one do not even know what that card is to be honest everyone calls the other card the Holy grail of football cards. Is that card even a football card??? I would not pay 12500$ for that card even if it is the true holy grail of football cards I love the look of the 1935 card much better.

Runscott
04-18-2013, 09:50 AM
I thought this was it:

http://vintagecards.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/henry-beecher-football-card.jpg?w=812

4815162342
04-18-2013, 09:51 AM
4815162342

You got me on that one do not even know what that card is to be honest everyone calls the other card the Holy grail of football cards. Is that card even a football card??? I would not pay 12500$ for that card even if it is the true holy grail of football cards I love the look of the 1935 card much better.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2012/1269.html

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:51 AM
Runscott

You also got me on that what is that card? Never even seen one. I know nothing about pre 1935 football cards as you guys can see.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 09:54 AM
4815162342

Thanks just finished reading the article very very interesting makes one want to own one...but like I said I would not pay that much for a football card. Do not get me wrong I follow football a lot but like I said only a few select cards I would be willing to pay over 10 000$ for and this is not one of them.

tonyo
04-18-2013, 09:54 AM
True of course many of us here in Canada are hockey card collectors. ;)

I collected hockey but switched over to lacrosse when I discovered the C60, C59 and C61 Imperial Tobacco series and the fact that some of these lacrosse players also played hockey!

I'm glad I kept reading this thread. First Lacrosse cards I have seen. Very nice.

Paul S
04-18-2013, 09:59 AM
Well, there go a few more cards off the market. :)

Zone91
04-18-2013, 10:04 AM
Paul S

What cards do you mean mine or the rare football cards (my cards are not rare enough to make them impossible for others to find one if they really wanted to buy one....maybe only the Old Judge card that is it)? I have NO intention of buying that football for 12500$.

Paul S
04-18-2013, 10:21 AM
Paul S

What cards do you mean mine or the rare football cards (my cards are not rare enough to make them impossible for others to find one if they really wanted to buy one....maybe only the Old Judge card that is it)? I have NO intention of buying that football for 12500$.

Adrian, I don't know what I meant.:confused: I have a sketchy track record. All I know is I'm suddenly investing in football. :)

Zone91
04-18-2013, 10:24 AM
Paul S

Hahahaha now that was funny!!!!:)

I mean if ever football cards pick up momentum those 2 cards shown here by other members will probably be worth a small fortune...but still I will have to pass just can't spend that kind of money on a football card.

joeadcock
04-18-2013, 10:50 AM
I must say Adrian, never seen anyone answer as many times in one thread. Its different. Personal answer to everyone's comments.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 10:53 AM
joeadcock

I am very sociable and enjoy answering here....some would say making conversation!!!:)

I know it disturbs some but others seem to like to talk and get into the conversation....that is what is important in the end is it not.

Peter_Spaeth
04-18-2013, 11:23 AM
I must say Adrian, never seen anyone answer as many times in one thread. Its different. Personal answer to everyone's comments.

A page out of Jim Crandell's book. :D The lost art of thread-hosting.

joeadcock
04-18-2013, 11:25 AM
Agreed....to Adrian's comment back

ALR-bishop
04-18-2013, 12:04 PM
You can't stop at one, you need both variations :)

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/img126.jpg

Sean
04-18-2013, 12:12 PM
Al, off-center notwithstanding, that is the nicest Mantle I've seen. :cool:

Zone91
04-18-2013, 12:13 PM
ALR-bishop

Hahaha I know but will start with this one for now....as you know 15 000$ is a lot of money.

pawpawdiv9
04-18-2013, 12:21 PM
Since this thread is popular....Besides REA & Heritage...What others are open?
So many auctions at once. sure there be a deal to have. Talking about competition.

Zone91
04-18-2013, 12:26 PM
pawpawdiv

Good to know for sure!!!

HOF Auto Rookies
04-18-2013, 12:37 PM
Overpaid for this...$200 too much? What's the book on it?

itjclarke
04-18-2013, 12:40 PM
Overpaid for this...$200 too much? What's the book on it?

Guaranteed to be one of one at that grade, so I think you made out well

HOF Auto Rookies
04-18-2013, 12:42 PM
Guaranteed to be one of one at that grade, so I think you made out well

Perfect, thanks Ian. Feel great about it. It still has eye appeal, didn't necessarily buy it for the flip.

Runscott
04-18-2013, 01:05 PM
Mantle was a switch-hitter, so your collection will not be complete until you pick up this variation:

Julz24
04-18-2013, 01:32 PM
Overpaid for this...$200 too much? What's the book on it?

That is awesome!! Would love to see a scan of the back on that.

npa589
04-18-2013, 04:31 PM
Overpaid for this...$200 too much? What's the book on it?


You posted this in another thread, I forget what it was...

Needless to say, when I saw this, I laughed as hard as I've laughed in years. It works on oh so many levels.


*Applause*


http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96400&stc=1&d=1366310225
.

margoaepi
04-18-2013, 05:36 PM
When I was a little boy, maybe 7 or 8 years old, once in a while my dad would humor me and we would hang out by the player entrance/exit after games at Shea. One day after a Mets/Pirates game (and a Pirates win), Mike LaValliere walked out, and even as a kid I knew who he was. Mind you, it was not because of his prowess on the field, but because of how he looked. I addressed him as Mr. LaValliere and asked him to sign my ball, and he looked me dead in the eye and said he doesn't sign autographs for anyone and just kept walking. Class act.

4815162342
04-18-2013, 05:56 PM
You posted this in another thread, I forget what it was...

Needless to say, when I saw this, I laughed as hard as I've laughed in years. It works on oh so many levels.


*Applause*


http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96400&stc=1&d=1366310225
.

I've also posted this card many times. :D

I believe it originated on CU.

itjclarke
04-18-2013, 07:29 PM
When I was a little boy, maybe 7 or 8 years old, once in a while my dad would humor me and we would hang out by the player entrance/exit after games at Shea. One day after a Mets/Pirates game (and a Pirates win), Mike LaValliere walked out, and even as a kid I knew who he was. Mind you, it was not because of his prowess on the field, but because of how he looked. I addressed him as Mr. LaValliere and asked him to sign my ball, and he looked me dead in the eye and said he doesn't sign autographs for anyone and just kept walking. Class act.

What a chump. Thanks for the insight.. I'll never look at "Spanky" the same again

Theo_450
04-18-2013, 08:31 PM
Mantle was a switch-hitter, so your collection will not be complete until you pick up this variation:

Should have "fixed" the NY emblem on the hat too.

Sorry, I just wanted to be involved in this EPIC thread.

martindl
04-18-2013, 08:31 PM
A page out of Jim Crandell's book. :D The lost art of thread-hosting.

Hardly fair Peter. Jim had a great collection, knew an awful lot about cards, had something to share, and didn't post inane bs on a daily basis.

Theo_450
04-18-2013, 08:31 PM
You posted this in another thread, I forget what it was...

Needless to say, when I saw this, I laughed as hard as I've laughed in years. It works on oh so many levels.


*Applause*


http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=96400&stc=1&d=1366310225
.

I saw it in the FUGLY thread.

Eric72
04-19-2013, 06:36 AM
Well, I will certainly admit that I was mistaken. And I do apologize.

Congratulations on your excellent acquisitions.

Sincerely,

Eric

Recanted...it turns out I wasn't mistaken, after all.

Runscott
04-19-2013, 09:38 AM
Should have "fixed" the NY emblem on the hat too.

Sorry, I just wanted to be involved in this EPIC thread.

DOH!!!

I'll put that on my project list. But for now I have to go see what else Adrian has purchased since last I checked. Since he's starting new threads for each day's acquisitions, it's tough to stay abreast of things ...

HOW DO I GET OUT OF HERE !?!?!?!

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/exclusive-new-beavis-and-butthead-will-tackle-jersey-shore-and-more-20110216/1000x306/main.jpg

ElCabron
04-21-2013, 12:23 AM
This dude's the exact perfect combination of Peter Chao and Marshall Barkman. He might not bring his cards with him wherever he goes, but you know what he always brings? The NOIZE!

-Ryan

Runscott
04-21-2013, 09:54 AM
This dude's the exact perfect combination of Peter Chao and Marshall Barkman. He might not bring his cards with him wherever he goes, but you know what he always brings? The NOIZE!

-Ryan

Ryan! Where have you been - Did you fall in a sinkhole?

(signing off before I get accused of posting too much.)

Zach Wheat
04-21-2013, 10:14 AM
This dude's the exact perfect combination of Peter Chao and Marshall Barkman. He might not bring his cards with him wherever he goes, but you know what he always brings? The NOIZE!

-Ryan

Ryan,

The Chao & Lichtman exchanges were some of my favorite threads! 9,066 Views...I thought I missed something epic going on.

MattyC
04-21-2013, 11:28 AM
This thread got me thinking: if I ever become a seller, I will start branding my items "THE HOLY GRAIL OF 'X.'" Seems to work like a charm. Imagine...

1988 Donruss Rated Rookie Gary Thurman, PSA 3

This specimen is quite simply the only one in the world at this tier. A true rarity in the hobby, and The Holy Grail to collectors of epic bust prospects.

Opening bid: $7000

ElCabron
04-22-2013, 10:18 AM
Scott,

I guess falling into a sinkhole is one way of describing it. But the divorce is almost finalized now. Ba-zing!

-Ryan