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Bored5000
02-18-2013, 07:16 AM
So was this "authentic" 1990 George Bush card that ended on eBay last night trimmed? I never thought it was would go to $1,650+, considering that a Beckett "4.5" of the same card recently sold for $1,009 on eBay and there is currently a Bush Beckett "4" sitting on eBay with no bids and a $1,500 opening price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Topps-USA-Baseball-USA1-George-Bush-Yale-PSA-Authentic-/140915913773?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20cf3e342d

Just from my anecdotal observations, it seems like more and more of the Bush cards have been hitting auction in the past year or two. PSA has currently graded 27 of the card. Has it ever been definitively determined how many Bush cards were released beyond the batch that was given to the President? Are all of the cards that have gone to auction in recent years assumed to have come from the general public's supply as opposed to the former President's allotment?

ALR-bishop
02-18-2013, 09:25 AM
Good Questions Eddie. Sorry to say I got mine some time back before the current glut hit the market. But if all the cards showing up came from whatever stash they gave to Bush, why is it that an autographed copy has never shown up. Seems like that would be a natural for such a card. Many of the Topps single issue Garagiola cards Topps produced for him, once in the 70s and once in the 90s, do show up with autos

lsutigers1973
02-18-2013, 10:00 AM
Good Questions Eddie. Sorry to say I got mine some time back before the current glut hit the market. But if all the cards showing up came from whatever stash they have to Bush, why is it that an autographed copy has never shown up. Seems like that would be a natural for such a card. Many of the Topps single issue Garagiola cards Topps produced for him, once in the 70s and once in the 90s, do show up with autos

I believe all the Bush cards were given to Bush and in turn he gave them out to all his staff members and never actually kept any for himself.

I can not quite figure out why the one posted in the link is only labeled authentic. I do see a crease, maybe two, but that should still get it a grade of at least 4 if the corners and edges are still good. My guess would be that the bottom left corner has been restored, maybe recolored.

Bored5000
02-18-2013, 10:44 AM
The "authentic" grade confused me as well. I initially thought it was because the card was trimmed. But maybe it was because the bottom left corner was worked on. I was way out of the park with what I thought the card would sell for.

4reals
02-18-2013, 12:41 PM
There's olne up for auction at Legendary right now:

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=155573&searchby=4&searchvalue=1086&page=0&sortby=7&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=Rare-1990-Topps-%23USA1-George-Bush---SGC-84-NM-7