What type of member/collector are you?

[frankbmd]

The Hoarder - accumulates cards incessantly and never sells until death do him part.

The Drifter - Has focused goals that once met may refocus in a new goal resulting in the disposition of the old goal or those who drift from one goal to another without ever completing any of them.

The Churner - Auction addicts with some level of budgetary constraint who can’t resist a good auction and are forced to sell in order to pay their auction bills or save their marriage. Emotionally crazed collectors who frequently buy high and sell low.

The Hobby Investor (Wise old Collector) - Focused collector who consistently looks for deals on cards they hope to sell someday for more than their costs. No card in the gottahaveit category, only good deals. These are the savvy collectors who are chameleons who hide in the reeds with patience aplenty ready to pounce at the most opportune time.

The Bottom Feeder - whose best card is only slightly better than his worst, which has borderline authenticity, paper loss, markings, stains or rodent tooth prints, or better yet all of the above. Fills empty binder sleeves faster than a locomotive to complete sets that absolutely no one would be proud of.

The Elitest - whose worst card is only slightly worse than his best, which appears to never have been held in human hands. Cards where the terms immaculate and pristine somehow fall short and seem inadequate. The collector who pops his tops only after buying the tops in Pops.

The Flipper - Member without a true collection of their own who is looking for cards, often in larger lots that they can resell for a profit either here or on the Bay, but do this as a hobby and not for a living. Different from the group above in that the flip is a quicker maneuver and their collection is nonexistent.

The Sniper - the collector who gains pleasure from seeing grown men cry at their screens after losing an auction to his last second bid.

The Cracker - self-described liberator of cards entombed in plastic cases designed for their preservation. Also known as The Feeler

The Crossover Artist - buys only cards from a TPG he doesn't like so that he can spend more money resubmitting either for a higher grade or "the look".

The Dealer/Collector - Dealers that have legitimate collecting interest, but are clearly trying to make a living in the cardboard trade.

The Auctioneer - an owner in the proliferating Auction House Industry.

The Hard Core Dealer - full time non-collector who suck and feed on all of the above.

The Newbie - the awestruck deer (dear) who know they want to be hit by the approaching vehicle but can't decide quickly enough whether to take a head shot, a broadside or a kick in the ass.

The Ex-Collector - the guy who may or may not still have some or all of their collections but for one reason or another, financial or motivational, is not actively chasing anything.

The Dead Collector - sort of a permanent Ex, as Ex-Collectors can always re-enter. This category consists of (death) certified collectors only.

The Future Collector - The offspring of a collector who has no idea of what they may inherit from The Dead Collector

The Unborn Collector aka Collector-in-Utero - The last hope for the sexually active collector who already has a stable of deadbeat future collectors, who don't know the difference between a Cobb and an ear of corn.

The Researcher - Yes, there are valid research interests in prewar collecting, but if you can do a google search, copy & paste and post on
Net54, you may find your "research (?)" regarded with plaudits. ;):D:D

All of the above may be not be mutually exclusive, so that you may find that you are a Hybrid Collector. Don’t be alarmed. This is not a serious condition and can be treated.:D I think.

This thread is the result of a conversation (Boca) with another member (bird) earlier today who may want to remain anonymous (man).;)

[Gradedcardman]

Unfortunately, the churner :)

[g_vezina_c55]

Verry cool thread Frank. I will think about it before post what kind i am :)

[Kenny Cole]

Hoarder

[brianp-beme]

A wannabe hoarder who churns out of necessity because otherwise he would only have cardboard for supper.

Brian

[jimivintage]

Definitely a cross breed of the churner and hobby investor. So an "investing hobby churner"? :)

[HercDriver]

I'm a bit of a Drifter, although with a fairly long time span between drifts! I try to start something new, but always seem to come back to T205s in some form or other...

Take Care,
Geno

[HRBAKER]

Definitely, a Hoarder.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

None of the above. I collect for the chicks. Nothing turns women on more than when you tell em you collect old baseball cards! :D

[DeanH3]

I need a catagory for a collector that wants to keep everything but has budgetary constraints that force them to sell something in order to afford another card. I cringe at some of the cards I have sold, and probably will sell in the future, in order to acquire another card. It sure is tough to build a collection when all I do is rotate cards. :mad:

[frankbmd]

I need a catagory for a collector that wants to keep everything but has budgetary constraints that force them to sell something in order to afford another card. I cringe at some of the cards I have sold, and probably will sell in the future, in order to acquire another card. It sure is tough to build a collection when all I do is rotate cards. :mad:

Hoardchurner hybrid

[atx840]

Hoardchurner hybrid :(

[Leon]

Pick 6 and then add babysitter to the list :). I am there. Fun list Frank!!



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[sdkammeyer]

All of the above may be not be mutually exclusive, so that you may find that you are a Hybrid Collector. Don’t be alarmed. This is not a serious condition and can be treated.:D I think.
(man).;)

I fear I am a hybrid. What I fear more is the treatment. Will you be prescribing a pill, cream, or suppository for my condition Doc?

Also, is treatment covered under my collector's insurance policy?

[alanu]

I'm a churner/drifter/flipper

[RCMcKenzie]

85252



Investor-hoarder. I spent an hour this afternoon at my office making this non-sport cabinet card instead of working.

[Iron Horse]

A hybrid/churner i would be. Also, partial to cards that may not be on my list, but look damn good and must have NOW! :D

[chris6net]

A Hoarder

[Howe’s Hunter]

Hoarder and proud of it.

[varsitycollectibles]

I like songs about drifters, books about the same. They both make me feel a little less insane. - Modest Mouse

[teetwoohsix]

Hoarder. :D

Sincerely, Clayton

[DeanH3]

Hoardchurner hybrid

That fits just fine. :D

[joeadcock]

Drifter hybrid type.

But mostly, I've survived in this hobby "cause I'm a dancer". In the immortal words of John Belushi.

[leaflover]

A Hoarder/Churner who breaks New Year resolutions by the middle of January. Each year I check myself into REHAB shortly after the National.

[Bocabirdman]

I started out as a Hoarder almost 50 years ago. I slid into being a Drifter after about 10 years. I eventually graduated to being a Dealer. Shortly thereafter, I became either an extra slow (30 years) Churner or noncataloged Flusher as I sold my collection for literally pennies on the dollar.:D A little less than three years ago, I returned as a Hoarder again, attempting to replace the collection from long ago. I have eventually settled in as a Pre-War Drifter with a Monster on my back.:D

I wonder if we'll hear from any Hard Core Dealers?:eek:

[EvilKing00]

im a mixed breed between The Churner & Hobby Investor

[rainier2004]

I really question that Im the first Cracker here? Nothin but a drifter/cracker jack hybrid...nice list!

[Bocabirdman]

We'll hear from some Newbies as soon as a kindly Hoarder or Drifter points them in the right direction and the headlights pass.:D

[markf31]

I don't think I fit into any of those, when I saw The Drifter, I suspected that would have been me, but after reading the description I realized it's not because my goals rarely seem to stay focused for very long before something else catches my attention.

I propose an amendment to the original list and add the following:

The Wanderer – Has loosely focused goals or ever changing goals, could also be referred to as a “Type Collector”. They wonder auction listings, the Bay and the B/S/T unhindered by set, issue, type or player constraints, where others find chaos and disorder the wonderer finds a sense of freedom.

I would be a Wanderer/Churner hybrid, not affraid to sell something I have to augment my funds to acquire something new.

[Bocabirdman]

I don't think I fit into any of those, when I saw The Drifter, I suspected that would have been me, but after reading the description I realized it's not because my goals rarely seem to stay focused for very long before something else catches my attention.

I propose an amendment to the original list and add the following:

The Wonderer – Has loosely focused goals or ever changing goals, could also be referred to as a “Type Collector”. They wonder auction listings, the Bay and the B/S/T unhindered by set, issue, type or player constraints, where others find chaos and disorder the wonderer finds a sense of freedom.

I would be a Wonderer/Churner hybrid, not affraid to sell something I have to augment my funds to acquire something new.

I wonder if you mean wander:D

[markf31]

I wonder if you mean wander:D

Yes, yes I did. That's why I'm an engineer...gotta play to your strengths haha!

[larrie804]

I am a collector/dealer. I love the beautiful old cards...1900-1960, but sell enough to support our desire to travel!

[Bocabirdman]

Yes, yes I did. That's why I'm an engineer...gotta play to your strengths haha!

Wonderer could have worked too:D

[g_vezina_c55]

Churner-drifter

[dabigyankeeman]

I would be closest to THE DRIFTER, but perhaps i am THE ADDER (a new category - one who continues to really work on his main goal but has to add smaller sub-goals).

I am a Yankee collector, collecting Yankee cards from the early 1900's though now. Obviously this gives me an enormous amount of cards to acquire and i will never get them all. However, after 32 years of collecting, i am so strong that most of the stuff i need is either obscure or getting too expensive, so i acquire slowly.

What i have to do is add little new collection types so that i can keep getting new things inbetween my Yankee buys.

I first added a section of cards of players who were on the Yankees but the card shows them on another team, such as Roger Maris on Cleveland in 1958, Casey Stengel on a Play Ball card, etc.

Then i added a Jewish baseball player collection, which i soon opened up to take in Jewish players from all sports.

The last new little part of my collection is in its infancy, and its trying to get a card of every pitcher that Mickey Mantle hit a home run off of.

I am also a CRACKER too, as i always free my cards from their plastic tombs.

This is fun!! :D

[Bosox Blair]

...perhaps i am THE ADDER (a new category - one who continues to really work on his main goal but has to add smaller sub-goals).



Good one, Arnie - I am also an "ADDER" by your definition (which I think is a good descriptive category).

Cheers,
Blair

[frankbmd]

Good one, Arnie - I am also an "ADDER" by your definition (which I think is a good descriptive category).

Cheers,
Blair

"The Drifter" definition expanded and clarified in the OP to include my understanding of The Adder. Drifters are no longer required to finish a project and may add projects at any time.

[novakjr]

I guess I would fall into the Hobby Investor/Hoarder/Drifter

Constantly bottom-feeding and looking for steals(sometimes with the intention to flip all of part of said deal eventually, but the items ultimately NEVER leave my collection). Occasionally, one great deal will shift my focus towards that find..Then I end up hoarding anything that I can find that is similar(sometimes overpaying), all while still keeping an eye out for the next big deal, which often pops up before I am able to complete the previous focus. And then cycle starts all over again.

HOF rookies are about the only constant in all of my madness..

[t206hound]

I'm definitely a hybrid... call me the Flipvestor (or the Hunter).

To me, it's all about the hunt... the chase. Ultimately my focused collections will be sold, but I flip to aid in that hunt.

[djson1]

None of the above. I collect for the chicks. Nothing turns women on more than when you tell em you collect old baseball cards! :D

Ha...funny. "Chicks dig it".
But really, I think I fall in many of the categories above. How can you be just one? :rolleyes:

[Bocabirdman]

Ha...funny. "Chicks dig it".
But really, I think I fall in many of the categories above. How can you be just one? :rolleyes:

Then you are a hybrid. Therapy costs will rise accordingly....:D

[kmac32]

Sniper/ crossover artist for me. LOL

[hoot-owl]

I am a Hoarder with Cracker tendencies and a bent toward Drifting. I don't know what I collect because it changes all the time, but I keep everything, and all cards are cracked out of their plastic tombs.

[sb32]

Definitely a Drifter, trying not to become a Hoarder.

[Rickyy]

hybrid to the max...a bit of this a bit of that.... :D

Ricky Y

[jimhopkins82]

Hoarder so far...

[Texxxx]

I guess I am a hybrid. I am a Hobby Investor until the card is in my hands then I become a Hoarder.

[margoaepi]

Hoarder and a drifter w/o the selling tendencies.

[frankbmd]

The prudent addition of categories may be required from time to time. By popular demand two have been added for condition sensitive collectors.
Will we soon see our first Elite Flipper?

[TNP777]

I guess I'll be the first confirmed Bottom Feeder, although I don't fill binder spots very fast any more. I will disagree with the sentiment that nobody would be proud of a Bottom Feeder's sets - a great many collectors have a great fondness for well-loved cards!

[Clutch-Hitter]

I'm an Articulator.

[champaigneappetite]

Drifting Bottom Feeder, with delusions of grandeur!

Fun thread!!

[Bosox Blair]

Good one, Arnie - I am also an "ADDER" by your definition (which I think is a good descriptive category).

Cheers,
Blair

After consultation with Frank :) I have determined that I am a "Drifting Hoarder" in his classification system.

Cheers,
Blair

[Bocabirdman]

After consultation with Frank :) I have determined that I am a "Drifting Hoarder" in his classification system.

Cheers,
Blair

Does your insurance cover such consultations? Have you met your 2013 deductable yet?:D

[Bosox Blair]

Does your insurance cover such consultations? Have you met your 2013 deductable yet?:D

:D:D

[Bocabirdman]

:D:D

Afterall, Frank is a Specialist..... or wait, maybe he's on a special list, I forget which.:)

[EGreenwood]

I am a hybrid - a drifter with bottom feeder tendencies

[WWGjohn]

Hoarder and Bottom Feeder

John

[jlehma13]

Definite bottom feeder. There's something that I really enjoy about a ratty
t206. Says the same guy who enjoys the unrestored class at car shows. It namely means I don't have the funds for graded cards or a restored car.

[itjclarke]

Absolute Hoarder with a tendancy to Wander around looking for anything I like.

[tonyo]

Bottom Feeding Drifter who Churns Crackers

The Drifter - Has focused goals that once met may refocus in a new goal resulting in the disposition of the old goal .

The Churner - addicts with some level of budgetary constraint ................. collectors who frequently buy high and sell low.

The Bottom Feeder - whose best card is only slightly better than his worst, Fills empty binder sleeves faster than a locomotive to complete sets .

The Cracker - self-described liberator of cards entombed in plastic cases designed for their preservation. Also known as The Feeler

[Bocabirdman]

Another day dawns without a Hard Core Soul Sucker stepping forward. I guess that is to be expected. They spend all night praying the castle walls hold against the villagers with their torches and pitchforks. With the new day, they retreat to their coffins to avoid the sunlight.:D

[frankbmd]

Bottom Feeders of the World unite. You have nothing to lose but your cards, and they're not worth that much anyway. Thanks for stepping forward after the creation of your true category, which was shamefully neglected in the original list. The Elitists can run, but they can't hide. We know where you live, that big house on the hill.

[pariah1107]

"Know thyself".

I am a strip card collector; bottom feeder with hoarder tendencies.

[Bocabirdman]

"Know thyself".

I am a strip card collector; bottom feeder with hoarder tendencies.

When I got back into the hobby a couple years ago, I considered being a strip card collector until I looked in the mirror and realized that taking my clothes off wouldn't help at this stage of life:D

[toppcat]

Drifter/Cracker

I think you forgot a category-The Historian, which I wager a large number of people responding would add to their titles.

[Wymers Auction]

I am an auctioneer. I say that with a bit of caution and terror!!!

[Shoele$$]

None of the above. I collect for the chicks. Nothing turns women on more than when you tell em you collect old baseball cards! :D

I mean how could they resist?.....

[cyseymour]

Bottom Feeders of the World unite. The Elitists can run, but they can't hide. We know where you live, that big house on the hill.

I am an Elitist.

http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt350/jboneparth/ewingampmascot.jpg

Thanks for looking.:D

[Spiegel83]

I am definitely a newbie. Just trying to gather as much info as possible from these boards. I also enjoy checking out lots of scans to see what cards/sets that are most interesting to me.

[Bocabirdman]

I am definitely a newbie. Just trying to gather as much info as possible from these boards. I also enjoy checking out lots of scans to see what cards/sets that are most interesting to me.

Welcome to the board. There are plenty of guys here that will show you all the scans you can handle, for sure. Beware, this place is highly addictive with no known cure.:D

[frankbmd]

I realize that I have become a churning upgrader, which is a hybrid not in the first post.

If you are a Churning Upgrader, it's time to admit it.

Come clean.

[TAVG]

bottom feeder

90% of my stuff is low end, however, I do have a couple of nice cards (to me they are nice)

but I know there is now way I'll be able to afford most of the stuff I've seen posted on these forums.

[egri]

I am a newbie/churner, although I guess the first one will wear off after a while. Frank, I noticed you didn't have a category for people whose single-minded focus on one project drives all other collecting thoughts from their mind, which more or less describes me. Is that because the associated therapy costs are too high to contemplate? :eek::D

[Louieman]

Is there such a thing as an "Elitist Bottom Feeder?" Only low end stuff, but the best looking of the low end, and only if I've scrutinized the hell out of it to the point that I find it justified to have...but again only with low end

[pencil1974]

Investor/Drifter.

Try to keep the ones I like but then sell many of the ones that don't fit into what I think I'm collecting at the time. Have a huge pile of 1800's-1940's that don't say Ruth so I end up selling those but can't let all of them go for some reason. But will sell anything to buy the whales on my list.

[mrmopar]

I suppose the three that best describe my collecting interests are Hoarder, Drifter and possibly Hobby Investor to some extent.

[kmac32]

Hoarder elitist sniper about covers it for me.

[ALR-bishop]

A Hereafter Hoarder.

[Hot Springs Bathers]

I am a perpetually confused hoarder-drifter. There should be some type of treatment facility for this condition.

[Chris Counts]

This isn't the first time I've been called a Cracker.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Adventurer

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[pokerplyr80]

I suppose the three that best describe my collecting interests are Hoarder, Drifter and possibly Hobby Investor to some extent.

These are the three I was going to go with as well, although not a true hoarder as I have sold a couple of cards to fund other purchases.

I have yet to achieve a long term collecting goal that I've set for myself, although I do intend to complete my Mantle run one of these days, or years.

[hangman62]

Oh that's very good Frank !!

bottom Feeder

[Peter_Spaeth]

I realize that I have become a churning upgrader, which is a hybrid not in the first post.

If you are a Churning Upgrader, it's time to admit it.

Come clean.

Rather lame, reviving your own nearly three year old thread. :rolleyes:

[JustinD]

No question...hoarder.

The only thing that could separate me from my cards was a two year cancer fight and having to clean most of the collection bare to supplement my disability check.

Now just getting it all back bigger and better than before. :D

Although I have to admit I love being "the sniper" too. :rolleyes:

[tombocombo]

dealer/collector with particular focus on the 1952 topps issue

[drmondobueno]

but I forgot, and have been confused about what I am collecting after moving my monster collection somewhere, and canning peppers all week, so

I am an alzheimic procrastinatification peptic drifter, or is it... No wait, what was I doing? Oh yeah, Michigan just fumbled or something, and lost....unh...1965 Topps?

[frankbmd]

Rather lame, reviving your own nearly three year old thread. :rolleyes:

It would seem to be a minority (of 1) opinion, but free speech is important, even yours.;)

[Enfuego]

I consider myself a drifter in training

[Peter_Spaeth]

It would seem to be a minority (of 1) opinion, but free speech is important, even yours.;)

Attention wh*&e!! :D

[ullmandds]

I was a type collector...then a set collector...now I'm mainly a ruth/cobb/louisianian/yankees/yankee stadium postcard/n43/miller collector...with one foot out the door!!!!

As far as a net54 member...I'm a bit of a wise guy...who doesn't contribute much!:D

[EldoEsq]

I am a hoarder....you can't be a hoarder hybrid...hoarders NEVER SELL ANYTHING!!!!

I used to be probably 5 of the choices, selling, flipping, changing interests...one thing I learned is that my collecting choices change every couple of years, and I regretted many of my sales as my taste would change back. I would now be paying 2x-3x for cards I used to own!!!!

NEVER SELL ANYTHING!!!!

[RTK]

I would say hoarder but small time.

[sreader3]

The Researcher -- Wants to know everything about sets he presently collects -- production/distribution history, relative scarcity of fronts/backs, variations, pricing, etc. -- to the point where acquiring the cards is secondary to acquiring information about the cards.

[trdcrdkid]

Like some others here, I'm a combination of the Hoarder and the Hobby Investor, with a bit of the Drifter mixed in. I have various hobby interests, of which I tend to focus on one or two at a time, but I seldom complete a goal before shifting to something else, and I never totally abandon a collecting interest. This goes for trade cards and nonsport tobacco cards as well as baseball cards.

[Bocabirdman]

I am a perpetually confused hoarder-drifter. There should be some type of treatment facility for this condition.

There is!! ....... Net 54

[LuckyLarry]

Proud "Bottom Feeder" since 1991

Larry

[shernan30]

Well, I'm a combination of a Hoarder, Drifter, and Churner. Although the Drifter side of me is starting to move away. Its taken some time to get my bearing on what I'd like to see out of my collection. I'd say I'm there with my Columbus set, but may be adding a Youngstown set to that very soon.

As a Hoarder I have a very hard time selling anything even if its not a part of my active set lists. As a Churner I do find myself moving some cards to cover the hole I put in the bank account because of emotional acquisitions. There are at least 2 Net54 members that I seem to always buy from even if my budget say NOOOO MORE this month :eek::eek::D:D.

[Paul S]

Ex-Collector here, for all the reasons cited and a few more. One day, when I am pared down and hopefully a bit more solvent, I hope to again buy a few when my Ex brother-in-law straightens-up with me...........he's a hunchback.

[Joshchisox08]

Newbie-Churning-Hoarding-Sniper and wanna be Flipper.

[Joshchisox08]

None of the above. I collect for the chicks. Nothing turns women on more than when you tell em you collect old baseball cards! :D

This comment wins it ! Nothing else can top this one.

[clydepepper]

Mostly a churner, but I can see attributes of both a bottom feeder and an elitist collector...maybe I'm just a vague collector with churner tendencies.

Another good thread idea - thanks Frank

[PolarBear]

Drifter

[asoriano]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hmnhhd.jpg

[Joshchisox08]

Crackers to me are sacrilegious I don't get it unless it's a Beckett or non PSA/SGC.

[Nashvol]

A drifter. And a rambler and a gambler and I guess I always will...

[abothebear]

Bottom Feeding Hobby Investor that unfortunately resembles an Ex-Collector these days.

[Huysmans]

You forgot one...

The Protagonist.

-One who enjoys collecting and the associated fanfare, but tires of silly and mundane topics started by OP's with apparently too much time on their hands. :)

[JustinD]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2hmnhhd.jpghttp://i57.tinypic.com/2hmnhhd.jpg


Things like this photo are the reason I have more faith in Bigfoot than Pop reports.

[bbsports]

Over 50 years ago I was a vintage & prewar card collector. For the last 35 years, I am a hard core dealer of early prewar cards.

[esd10]

I really prefer pre 1920's cardboard and so that is what I collect

[rjackson44]

It's not easy😀😀😀😀😀😀

[Rich Klein]

The long term successon to ROB D ;)

[whyconform]

HOF Autograph Collector primarily

3000 hit, 3000 k, 300 win, 500 hr club autos also..(most are HOF)

My focus is GPC's, but also items that are dated.

[frankbmd]

The types of collectors are defined in Post #1, with a few additions sprinkled in along the way.

The types of cards you collect is not the focus of this thread.

Look in the mirror to answer the question and not at your collection.

[ALR-bishop]

Frank-- there were too many choices in post one. I could not decide.

[Samsdaddy]

Late to the dance here but I am a Drifter.

Back into collecting after taking a year off.

[BengoughingForAwhile]

None of the above. I collect for the chicks. Nothing turns women on more than when you tell em you collect old baseball cards! :D

And if I really want to turn a woman on I whip out my phone, show her my PSA Certification app and let her verify a few bar codes...:D

[Topps206]

I'm a hybrid of hoarder/drifter.

[sreader3]

Sorry Frank. Love ya' man--really do. But I can't be pigeon-holed into your stinkin' categories. The Researcher. Please add as a category of I'm gonna have to post some damn research.:)

And Longstreet is the best southern leaguer by far.:)

[BleedinBlue]

I'd have to say that I'm a hoarder but am dealing with a bit of a drifter phase for the last few years. After decades of hoarding/collecting post war cards I realized I had no interest in keeping them. They took up a lot of space, and caused too much of an organizational effort than they were worth to me. So, I continue to hoard the areas I'm currently focused on. But am in the process of downsizing the things I don't have a passion for anymore. I no longer strive to have 1 million different cards. Now i'd like to have 10k.

[Leon]

Downsizing can be a good thing. I have recently considered that with my rppc collection. Just too many......it seems a good time to weed out some and save the best!!

I'd have to say that I'm a hoarder but am dealing with a bit of a drifter phase for the last few years. After decades of hoarding/collecting post war cards I realized I had no interest in keeping them. They took up a lot of space, and caused too much of an organizational effort than they were worth to me. So, I continue to hoard the areas I'm currently focused on. But am in the process of downsizing the things I don't have a passion for anymore. I no longer strive to have 1 million different cards. Now i'd like to have 10k.