tobacco card packaging...

[Leon]

We talk a lot about tobacco cards so a thread about the packaging they came in seems relevant. It's always fun to see some of the packs, boxes and associated items. I haven't added much tobacciana to the collection lately so it will be some previously seen items, on my part...

[ullmandds]

wow...those are sweet!!!!! Never seen either of those b4...cool! I'm guessing those are pretty tough to find?

[RCMcKenzie]

Drum and Carolina Brights packs must be hard to find. I have not seen those before either, but I have not really followed the packs.


Do y'all know if this information is correct about T213 distribution...

www.baseballandtobacco.com/t213.htm

I thought I remember Ted Z. posting about T213's being distributed in large cartons. Maybe both methods were used or maybe I have misremembered again. Thanks.

[T3s]

You buy the cigarettes, collect the coupons, mail them in with your choice of player (Matty!) and sooner or later an envelope from Jersey City arrives with your prize.

[T3s]

Fez cigarettes will get you a T3 too, you just need to smoke more!!

[canjond]

Another incredibly tough one....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Hindu-1.jpg

Which can be seen here:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/HinduAd.jpg

[Pythonfactory]

Love it. Keep these coming!

[atx840]

http://i.imgur.com/7hl4r.jpg

[E93]

Leon,
When are you going to sell me those?
JimB
Here are a few mid-level toughies, though not in the same league with Leon's or Jon's

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/t206backs/websize/T206%20American%20Beauty%20pack.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/t206backs/websize/T206%20Cycle%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/t206backs/websize/T206%20EPDG%20pack.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/t206backs/websize/T206%20Sovereign%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/t206backs/websize/Tolstoi%20pack.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/n167/websize/Old%20Judge%20box%20front.jpg

[piedmont150]

Love the Drum and Carolina Brights packs!! Never seen either one! I only have the easy ones, Sweet Caporal and Piedmont. The pride of my tobacco collection though are my Hindu and Old Mill ads including an entire New Orleans Daily Picayune newspaper with a huge Hindu ad. Thanks for sharing the pack pics everyone.

[Leon]

Most packaging is much scarcer than their associated cards as the packaging would have been discarded after use. Yes, the first 2 shown are quite scarce, as well as many others in this thread. These are the only 2 of these I have seen so far..T216

[3-2-count]

Great items everyone..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/pbpak1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/DSC02221.jpg

[tedzan]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/boldjudgen162gaudaur.jpg.http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/aoldjudgecigpack.jpg


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/piedmontpackjohnson.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/abcigpackt206.jpg




http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/ameccacobb.jpg


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/at207recruitboxncard.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bt207recruitboxncard.jpg



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/apiratecigpack.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bpiratecigpack.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bt215pirate.jpg



:) And, here is one for laughs :)

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/victorygumpack.jpg



TED Z

[teetwoohsix]

This is a wonderful thread, thank you all for showing these amazing items. Love seeing this stuff !!!

Sincerely, Clayton

[Paul S]

I wish I had some to add. In the meantime I'll just drool.

[DixieBaseball]

Drum and Carolina Brights packs must be hard to find. I have not seen those before either, but I have not really followed the packs.


Do y'all know if this information is correct about T213 distribution...

www.baseballandtobacco.com/t213.htm

I thought I remember Ted Z. posting about T213's being distributed in large cartons. Maybe both methods were used or maybe I have misremembered again. Thanks.


Rob - I think Ted meant that Coupon packs were distributed in large cartons like this one : Pic 1 is picture of Top - Pic 2 is picture of the side and pic 3 is a picture of the end of the carton.

[DixieBaseball]

Coupons Packs

[Brian Weisner]

Nice packs.... Here are a few more...

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image3_zpsf5ef7bba.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image2-Copy_zpsb5e1fb57.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image116_zps0b5659f9.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image117_zps3c58fb6b.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image123_zpsc9f28067.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image124_zps0214e1a0.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image119_zps5fdfdfdc.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image118_zps0b71dacd.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image127_zps0cb9c1b0.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image128_zpsa4fd723c.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image121_zpsf86ab7ee.jpghttp://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q257/hogan6g/Image122_zps21d39f19.jpg


Be well Brian

[GasHouseGang]

I picked this up but don't know if any cards came in the tin. Just thought it was cool.

[Brian Campf]

1909 Obak promotional pack / postcard.

[canjond]

A few more:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/Obak.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/LoneJackclose.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/Creole-eBay.jpg

[tedzan]

Rob - I think Ted meant that Coupon packs were distributed in large cartons like this one : Pic 1 is picture of Top - Pic 2 is picture of the side and pic 3 is a picture of the end of the carton.

Jeremy

Pardon me for this modification, ole buddy. It's my opinion that the 1910 "COUPON" cigarettes were never in the standard ATC cigarette packs.
They were distributed in cartons of 500 - 1000 loose cigarettes (tightly packed). These cartons can be identified by the label.... "COUPON" Cigarettes.

As, I'm sure you know, the carton you have displayed is for the T213-2, or T213-3 issues (circa 1914-1919)....as the "Liggett & Myers Tobacco Co." label implies.


Here is a similar carton............

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh622/tedzan77/RAMLYcarton_zps9e708636.jpg
Scott B.......thanks for this RAMLY carton.


TED Z

[kkkkandp]

...it is related! :)

[goodtricks]

What a thread!

[WillowGrove]

Even though I care more about the baseball aspect, I still love the packaging and related items for our tobacco cards. Craig, nice succinct way to set up your cool T3' stuff!

I was happy to win this toughie a few months back on Ebay.

[DixieBaseball]

Jeremy

Pardon me for this modification, ole buddy. It's my opinion that the 1910 "COUPON" cigarettes were never in the standard ATC cigarette packs.
They were distributed in cartons of 500 - 1000 loose cigarettes (tightly packed). These cartons can be identified by the label.... "COUPON" Cigarettes.

As, I'm sure you know, the carton you have displayed is for the T213-2, or T213-3 issues (circa 1914-1919)....as the "Liggett & Myers Tobacco Co." label implies.

TED Z


Ted - Interesting theory. I'll bite. What makes you think they were packed in cartons instead of packs ? JJ

[Cerberus]

...................I just can't help myself:

[Cerberus]

............this is my favorite thread:

[Leon]

I am hopeless....

[peterb69]

Very Nice

[Cerberus]

...........lol....it's a disease, Leon. Don't fight it:

[canjond]

Some more interesting ones:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/RedCross.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/MVC-001F.jpg

[E93]

Some really incredible stuff has been posted here by Jon, Brian, Jeremy, Leon, and many others.
JimB

[willworkforT206]

Leon - I was the unfortunate underbidder on both of those Drum and Carolina Brights packs. Incredible pick-ups!

Here's a few that haven't been shown yet....T206 brands, of course.

1) UZIT, ATC Factory 30, 5 pack (shell only)
2) Sweet Caporal harder to find Factory 42 (shell only)
3) Cycle 20 pack shell - not T206 era, but cool litho graphics
4) Side of a post-T206 era Sovereign pack that states "Tobacco Never Harmed Anyone". Gotta love it!

Please keep this thread going!

Steve

[canjond]

Turkish Trophies with T3 advertisement:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/band.jpg

Unopened Old Mill:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/OldMillPackinWax.jpg

A period Coupon pack:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/t213.gif

[Cerberus]

....help....

[Jlighter]

This one isn't nearly as great as others posted here.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8483/8204821416_9829330b6a_o.jpg

[Cerberus]

.............Egyptienne !!!

[E93]

A few more not shown yet.
JimB

http://photos.imageevent.com/jimblumenthal/packsandcards/websize/Tobacco%20packs.jpg

[Cerberus]

.........how petrified the gum inside must be?

[rdwyer]

I'm looking for a "slide" for an Old Mill box. If you have an extra, please PM me or send an email. TIA

[Cerberus]

............and soft:

[EvilKing00]

a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

[canjond]

a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

I assume you are referring to the SC? I was the underbidder, but thought it went for a very fair price. If I didn't have a few already, I would certainly have gone stronger.

[JollyElm]

a real nice unopened pack just sold tonight on ebay, anyone here get it?

I only collect post-war stuff, so I have a 'newbie' question. Are there unopened cigarette packs floating around out there (on ebay or at auction) with t206 cards in them? And what would one look for if they were somehow to run across an old unopened pack in, say, some antiques store?

[EvilKing00]

I assume you are referring to the SC? I was the underbidder, but thought it went for a very fair price. If I didn't have a few already, I would certainly have gone stronger.

Yes that was the one - was unopenet too - I dont have the link but i think it went for like $275.

My qyustion would be is there a baseball card in there? or some obscure card?

[Cerberus]

........I really like this issue:

[Tom S.]

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u169/toppsopcfan/IMG_00000005_zps6a9e518c.jpg

[Cerberus]

......if only they'd have sealed them in cellophane, inside the packs.

[mrvster]

just wanted to say:eek:

these are all jawdropping:eek:

I have put most my resources into the freaks, but these items I have always enjoyed....wow....

[Leon]

just wanted to say:eek:

these are all jawdropping:eek:

I have put most my resources into the freaks, but these items I have always enjoyed....wow....


Hey Johnny
You should come over to this dark side sometime.

http://luckeycards.com/ppackgypsy1queen.jpg


http://luckeycards.com/pogggdogsheadcarton1.jpg

[canjond]

To go along with Leon's:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/GQ.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/GQ1.jpg

[Blitzu]

A just found this pack this weekend in a small antique shop in St Louis.

[Pythonfactory]

A just found this pack this weekend in a small antique shop in St Louis.

Nice find!

[sycks22]

Love this thread, keep'em coming.

[3-2-count]

Piedmont cigarette case.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontcigcont1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontcigcont2.jpg

Piedmont bin for singles that would have been on a store shelf. I've not seen another one like this. Have you Jon?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray1-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray3.jpg

[canjond]

Tony- that's a first for me.

[Cerberus]

.......for a smoke?

[rdwyer]

Cerberus: Light one of those joints up and report back. :)

[3-2-count]

Tony- that's a first for me.

Thanks Jon......

[EvilKing00]

Piedmont cigarette case.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontcigcont1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontcigcont2.jpg

Piedmont bin for singles that would have been on a store shelf. I've not seen another one like this. Have you Jon?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray1-1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/piedmontashtray3.jpg

thats awesome man - IF it was mine i would consider restoring that, would look amazing

[Cerberus]

......rdwyer. Just came out of it. Thinking about trying one of these Obaks tonight, but I've heard they're killer. I'll let you know:

[canjond]

Packaging for a 20-pack carton of Tolstoi...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/Cigarette%20Packs/tolstoi.jpg

[T3s]

Haven't had the urge (or need) to fire one of these up yet.

[Iron Horse]

Amazing to see all the different brands and packaging.
Thanks for sharing

[DixieBaseball]

Red Sun : 1st pack - Very scarce remake from the 70/80's. The last 2 packs are period and I don't own them (but would like too ;) )

[Cerberus]

.....now I have to spring for a large silk or L-1 leather premium, to display with it:

[canjond]

Red Sun : 1st pack - Very scarce remake from the 70/80's. The last 2 packs are period and I don't own them (but would like too ;) )

The Red Sun on the far right dates to approximately 1903-07. The graphics then changed and the one on the left would have been more appropriate for the distribution of cards. Both of those are scarce. I've never seen another one of the "Butler" boxes (other than the one pictured), and I've only seen 2 of the "card appropriate" Red Sun packs - both of which ended up in China.

[canjond]

This does not belong to me, but a very rare tin... This is the only "correct" Yum Yum tin I've ever heard of. Outside of the lid, the label reads "Cards are placed at the bottom of the box."

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/YumYumwcard.jpg

[Cerberus]

.........but I'm sure I never will. My dupe on the other hand, hmmmmmm.......

[EvilKing00]

.........but I'm sure I never will. My dupe on the other hand, hmmmmmm.......

wonder if there is a T206 wagner in there???? I would open it, :eek: