Calif. Card show!!!

[rdwyer]

WOW! About time!

http://www.psacard.com/articles/article_view.chtml?artid=7485&utm_source=psaezine&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=psaezine2013jan08

[kmac32]

Anyone have any idea on if there will be prewar cards there? I could use a good fix!

[botn]

And this...http://www.socalsportscollectors.com/index.html

[oaks1912]

At this weekend's show there will be more than a handful of exhibitors that have vintage sports material (pre 1970), including Roger Neufeldt, Jay Miller, Bob Celani, Adam Warshaw, Anthony Nex and myself. There are a number of exhibitors that are supporting Bob Givens' efforts (as well as another local group) in an attempt to revitalize the local show scene in Southern California, which was one of the best, well balanced show circuits in the country 20+years ago

[wonkaticket]

Mark anyword on if there will be funnel cakes, rides or perhaps a petting zoo? I’ve gotten pretty picky about what I look for in a vintage card show these days. :)

[GasHouseGang]

I received this offer from Beckett related to the Southern CA show.

Show Hours
Friday, January 11 (4pm-9pm)
Saturday, January 12 (10am-5pm)
Sunday, January 13 (10am-4pm)

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For more information about this event, including the amazing autograph guest line-up, please go to www.socalbaseballexpo.com.

Not able to make it to the show and want to find out how to submit your cards to Beckett, please contact Justo Vazquez, in our California office, at 714-200-1934 or jvazquez@beckett.com.

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[oaks1912]

John,The show is across the street from Disneyland, so I don't think the promoter would want to compete with that venue. If you could hold out until the National returns to Cleveland, you'll get all of your wishes. Just don't eat the rancid funnel cakes before you get on the ferris wheel.... or the place may smell like a petting zoo....:D

[wonkaticket]

That's just good sound advice thanks Mark. :D

[Exhibitman]

I'll be there on Saturday @ Anthony's table and around the show floor. Anthony, Jason Miller and I are starting the show that will be in Culver City on May 18th. We are looking to run a throw-back, card club type show: one day, no autograph guests, low admission price, free parking, modest table pricing to encourage weekend warriors to take a table and show up. By keeping the costs and ambitions down we are hoping to create a sustainable show for the longer term where the cards and memorabilia are the focus. If it works we will make it a regular event, perhaps 2-3 times a year.

We are also tinkering with the idea of creating a card club itself with regular meetings that would occur on either an evening or weekend and not necessarily be open to the public or feature dealer-customer structure but would instead be geared to creating the sort of show it off, trade, buy and sell local camaraderie that many of us who were collecting in the late 1970s recall.

[sando69]

am anxious to see any reviews, comments or pix about this show, from both the dealers and attendees pov....

[kmac32]

Thought about driving over but wasn't sure it would be worth a tank of gas.

[Al C.risafulli]

I'm looking forward to taking a cross-country trip to SoCal to set up at the show being organized by Adam, Anthony and Jason. Should be a blast.

-Al

[Matthew H]

I went on Friday and had great time. I browsed a few tables then talked to Mark Macrae for a couple hours. I picked up a W517 mini of Lefty Grove and a hand full of Zeenuts from him. Then got schooled on the hobby free of charge.

There was a dealer named Paul whom I've never met before, he had a nice selection of raw tobacco and candy cards, actually he had a little of everything. His prices were fair and he was a really cool guy. He told me he only goes to local shows.

Mark's selection was impressive and as you probably all know, fair Prices (many low prices actually). I also saw Rodger N, fair prices as well as a nice selection of raw material.

I think going on Friday is kind of a mistake because, like last year, I missed out on meeting other board members like Adam, Anthony, and Jason M.

If I had to guess there were at least 10 guys there on friday with quality material and shockingly, I only recognized 2 cards from ebay high BINs!

I saw a guy setting up some Cuban stuff, whom I later found out to be Ryan C. Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you.

Overall I really enjoy this show and im thankful it exists.... Looking forward to the show coming in may.

-Matt

[Jaybird]

Sorry we didn't get a chance to meet Matthew. Always good to shake hands with another Southern Cal card collector. I thought the show was good on the one day I was there. Met and talked to most if not all of the guys set up and many of the folks walking around. We had flyers for the May show and there seemed to be some genuine interest in getting this kind of collector club vintage show going.

The best part of a show for me is just meeting and talking cards with the guys. I think the dealers did fine and overall were happy with the show. One of the main reasons we're doing the Saturday only is because it seems like the two other days (Friday and Sunday) are light traffic days. Also, we'd like to encourage everyday collectors to set up a table and the time commitment of just one day seems like it might help anyone on the fence. Also table fees are cheap. ;)

[Exhibitman]

I would like to have been there Friday but work prevented it. Ditto everything Jason said. A decent little show. Could use a few more vintage dealers, though I heard that some of the dealers canceled due to illness, so the show may have been a bit smaller than was intended. Paul [Markoe] is a fixture at most SoCal shows and will hopefully be at ours. Nice man, king of the lower grade cards. From him I picked up an E210 Rice with a ghost back, a Zeenut Oscar Vitt and a Diamond Match cover of Izzy Goldstein. Ryan had nice 1915 Susini Tris Speaker that is now part of my collection. If I'd had $30K lying around I'd have purchased his 1920s Negro League HOFers; those cards were the best things at the show that I saw. Also got a few boxing PCs and several photos from Jim Jeffries' boxing facility signed and stamped by the staff photographer there. Very much enjoyed visiting with everyone though I did not sell a thing. I don't realize how much I miss shows until I get to go to one...

[oaks1912]

Great show this weekend. Congrats to Bob Givens for putting together a nice selection of dealers. Sorry that Jay and a few others were under the weather. Enjoyed visiting with several people , including the two handfuls that post / lurk here. We'll have to raise funds to get Wonkaticket out here to the Coast. He missed the sausage eating contest and the organic produce booth on the other side of the room. I think they are still waiting for the person holding ticket #3 for Hubie Brooks. He'd really like to go home tonight...:)...Looking forward to the show in May

[Matthew H]

I would like to have been there Friday but work prevented it. Ditto everything Jason said. A decent little show. Could use a few more vintage dealers, though I heard that some of the dealers canceled due to illness, so the show may have been a bit smaller than was intended. Paul [Markoe] is a fixture at most SoCal shows and will hopefully be at ours. Nice man, king of the lower grade cards. From him I picked up an E210 Rice with a ghost back, a Zeenut Oscar Vitt and a Diamond Match cover of Izzy Goldstein. Ryan had nice 1915 Susini Tris Speaker that is now part of my collection. If I'd had $30K lying around I'd have purchased his 1920s Negro League HOFers; those cards were the best things at the show that I saw. Also got a few boxing PCs and several photos from Jim Jeffries' boxing facility signed and stamped by the staff photographer there. Very much enjoyed visiting with everyone though I did not sell a thing. I don't realize how much I miss shows until I get to go to one...

Paul had a two player Brooklyn Old Judge that I really regret not buying... I got all condition prude at the hacked off borders... In hindsight, it had perfect photo quality, and I could have "fixed" it with an actress card.

I'll see you guys in May, if I have enough stuff I want to sell at the time, I'll get a table. A saturday only show really is a great idea.

-Matt

[Jaybird]

Paul had a two player Brooklyn Old Judge that I really regret not buying... I got all condition prude at the hacked off borders... In hindsight, it had perfect photo quality, and I could have "fixed" it with an actress card.

I'll see you guys in May, if I have enough stuff I want to sell at the time, I'll get a table. A saturday only show really is a great idea.

-Matt

I'm pretty sure that I have Paul's email if you want to still buy it. Could put you in touch with him.

Also, we can't take credit for Sat only show. Mark Macrae, our show mentor ;), has been running a successful show this way for 30 years up in San Leandro. It seems to work for him and allows for everyone to have a life as well.

[Leon]

I'm pretty sure that I have Paul's email if you want to still buy it. Could put you in touch with him.

Also, we can't take credit for Sat only show. Mark Macrae, our show mentor ;), has been running a successful show this way for 30 years up in San Leandro. It seems to work for him and allows for everyone to have a life as well.

The only downside to a one day show is it makes it less viable for out-of- towners. Otherwise I hope to make more shows in the future too. I would love to come west and do some shows with Mark M. and friends....I do understand the one day concept and agree it works, especially for more local people.

[oaks1912]

The one day show most likely would scare away long distance dealers, like Roger Neufeldt and others more than 700 miles away, but the distance from Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego and Northern California is an easy few hour drive. The expenses would be Friday night lodging and gas. So Cal dealers Gavin Riley, Steve Brunner, Clay Hill, Tony Galovich and even Goodie Goldfaden were regular attendees at the Nor Cal shows years back. While gas prices have gone up since then, so has fuel efficiency. Four vintage dealers, each with a few albums full of vintage cards and an overnight bag could easily fit in a Prius wagon and their expenses wouldn't be much higher than the cost of a couple In N Out Burgers....of which there happen to be a few of located in the Big Valley...:D

[Leon]

The one day show most likely would scare away long distance dealers, like Roger Neufeldt and others more than 700 miles away, but the distance from Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego and Northern California is an easy few hour drive. The expenses would be Friday night lodging and gas. So Cal dealers Gavin Riley, Steve Brunner, Clay Hill, Tony Galovich and even Goodie Goldfaden were regular attendees at the Nor Cal shows years back. While gas prices have gone up since then, so has fuel efficiency. Four vintage dealers, each with a few albums full of vintage cards and an overnight bag could easily fit in a Prius wagon and their expenses wouldn't be much higher than the cost of a couple In N Out Burgers....of which there happen to be a few of located in the Big Valley...:D

Since last year there was an explosion of In N Out Burgers in N.Texas. We have one on every corner now. They are great burgers but I think they over-saturated the market. I look for a few of them to actually close down (locally) because of their over population. And back to the subject, I would love to be able to drive for 2-3 hours to get to a good one day show. I would do that every day. I understand that the original show we are discussing is a 3 day show so that might be doable if it keeps going. Coming west would be fun as we always go east. :)


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[kmac32]

Leon,

Would trade a few of our In And Out Burgers for a few Steak and Shake restaurants. I crave it every time I make it back to the Midwest.

[Jlighter]

Leon,

Would trade a few of our In And Out Burgers for a few Steak and Shake restaurants.

We have a bunch a Steak and Shakes down in Florida, I'll gladly administer the trade. Also some Krispy Kremes would be nice.:)

[barrysloate]

We have Moo Burger here in Brooklyn, and they pack them in every night....it's one succulent burger!

[kmac32]

Five Guys restaurants have been opening up like wildfires here in California and they are disgusting and over priced. Like eating pure grease.

[Griffins]

In and Out is grossly overrated. Leon, you need to come out for our show in May and we'll take you to The Shack on the beach in Playa Del Rey, best burgers in the world.

[E93]

In and Out is grossly overrated. Leon, you need to come out for our show in May and we'll take you to The Shack on the beach in Playa Del Rey, best burgers in the world.

If I make it from Portland, can I get in on that?
JimB

[teetwoohsix]

Sounds like it was a great time. When is the next one planned? I have family in San Fernando Valley & Ventura County and could plan a little adventure out of it.

Sincerely, Clayton

[Matthew H]

In and Out is grossly overrated. Leon, you need to come out for our show in May and we'll take you to The Shack on the beach in Playa Del Rey, best burgers in the world.

The Shack is amazing. I found that place by chance, and I try to go back whenever I'm in the area.

[Matthew H]

Sounds like it was a great time. When is the next one planned? I have family in San Fernando Valley & Ventura County and could plan a little adventure out of it.

Sincerely, Clayton

There is a one day show in May... Culver City I believe, could be off though.

If anyone wants to split a table with me shoot me a PM... I've a few things I'd like to part with.

-Matt

[teetwoohsix]

Thanks Matt, I appreciate it.

I've always wanted to go to the one up in San Leandro but that's a long haul from here & I really don't like to fly. May sounds good, right before the heatwave :D

Sincerely, Clayton

[Matthew H]

Thanks Matt, I appreciate it.

I've always wanted to go to the one up in San Leandro but that's a long haul from here & I really don't like to fly. May sounds good, right before the heatwave :D

Sincerely, Clayton


No problem, I hope to see you there!

[teetwoohsix]

No problem, I hope to see you there!

Thanks, likewise.

Will there be a little heads up as far as the date of the show, or is it still undetermined?

Sincerely, Clayton

[Matthew H]

Thanks, likewise.

Will there be a little heads up as far as the date of the show, or is it still undetermined?

Sincerely, Clayton

I'm not 100% sure of the date but I'm sure one of the guys doing the show will chime in the AM. If not I'll be sure to let you know.

-Matt

[teetwoohsix]

I'm not 100% sure of the date but I'm sure one of the guys doing the show will chime in the AM. If not I'll be sure to let you know.

-Matt

Thanks Matt, this sounds awesome. It'd be great to meet all of you guys, and check out some cards !!!

Sincerely, Clayton

[Griffins]

I'm not 100% sure of the date but I'm sure one of the guys doing the show will chime in the AM. If not I'll be sure to let you know.

-Matt

Matt and Clayton, the show is May 18th, in Culver City. Tables are $95.
http://www.socalsportscollectors.com/

[Griffins]

If I make it from Portland, can I get in on that?
JimB

lol. Instead of Rigo's or as well?

[teetwoohsix]

Matt and Clayton, the show is May 18th, in Culver City. Tables are $95.
http://www.socalsportscollectors.com/

Thanks for the info Anthony, I appreciate it !!!

Sincerely, Clayton

[Rich Klein]

Leon:

The Tin Star at Park and the Tolway we used to eat at frequently closed their doors in the past week. According to the email they are looking at a nearby location. All the tin Stars we used to go to are leaving. Thank goodness new places like Furrs and Sauced are ready to go

Rich

[kmac32]

Leon:

The Tin Star at Park and the Tolway we used to eat at frequently closed their doors in the past week. According to the email they are looking at a nearby location. All the tin Stars we used to go to are leaving. Thank goodness new places like Furrs and Sauced are ready to go

Rich

Rich,

Is it possible at Furrs to go through the drive thru and order a Furr Burger to go? LOL

[pepis]

Matt and Clayton, the show is May 18th, in Culver City. Tables are $95.
http://www.socalsportscollectors.com/

That was the location for the Gene Hisseroth Culver City monthly show
i don't think they had a show there since he past he had a card shop
just a block from there. one of my closest friends in the hobby.
Pepe

[Exhibitman]

Candidly, we're also hoping that a one-day show will bring out the old-school weekend warriors, the guys with no real business plan, inventory, etc., and no real ambition to be 'dealers' but a lot of accumulated stuff that they'd like to turn over and would otherwise either send to an auctioneer or put on Ebay. Just the excess stuff I've sent to an auctioneer over the last year could fill a table easily and I'm sure I am not unique in that respect. My hope is that a table fee of under $100 and a one-day time commitment will convince those guys to come out and give it a shot. So, anyone reading who is SoCal local, mark May 18th and think about taking a table. Bring out your doubles, your triples and your stuff that no one would possibly want--you might be surprised.

We will have table contracts and a table selection sheet ready in a week or two.

[ls7plus]

What a terrific idea, Adam--just like the good old days, before virtually everything went on-line! Wish I could be there, and wish you the very best of luck!

Regards,

Larry

[Jaybird]

That was the location for the Gene Hisseroth Culver City monthly show
i don't think they had a show there since he past he had a card shop
just a block from there. one of my closest friends in the hobby.
Pepe

Thanks for that information, Pepe. We had heard that there were shows there previously but didn't know who held them. I believe Phil Regli mentioned that there were shows there in past. Are you still in Southern Cal?

[kmac32]

Hollywood Park casino used to be one of the best shows in SoCal. Was always worth the trip even in a bad neighborhood.

[pepis]

Hollywood Park casino used to be one of the best shows in SoCal. Was always worth the trip even in a bad neighborhood.

Sure Jayson, i'm still in SoCal i'm a Valley boy now or should i say Valley
old man, in 83 and 84 i did a couple of larger shows there and the 84 one
was probably one of my top 5 ever, but the reason was i had many
olympic pins.
Pepe

[Jaybird]

Sure Jayson, i'm still in SoCal i'm a Valley boy now or should i say Valley
old man, in 83 and 84 i did a couple of larger shows there and the 84 one
was probably one of my top 5 ever, but the reason was i had many
olympic pins.
Pepe

Would love to have you at this one if you wanted to come down. I love stories of the shows that used to be and anything related to hobby history.

Anyone else interested can contact us through the contact page (http://www.socalsportscollectors.com/contact.html) on the site or PM me and I'll give you my direct email.

[Cerberus]

..........I live 2 blocks away from that show location in Culver City. I can state, unequivocally, that In-'N-Out burgers are not overrated. Their fries, on the other hand, need work (unless you order them "animal style"). Any negativity towards In-'N-Out, is borderline blasphemy.

For any of you planning to attend the show, there's an In 'N Out approximately 1 mile or so away from the location--East on Venice Blvd.

;)Michael

[Leon]

..........I live 2 blocks away from that show location in Culver City. I can state, unequivocally, that In-'N-Out burgers are not overrated. Their fries, on the other hand, need work (unless you order them "animal style"). Any negativity towards In-'N-Out, is borderline blasphemy.

For any of you planning to attend the show, there's an In 'N Out approximately 1 mile or so away from the location--East on Venice Blvd.

;)Michael

I didn't see anyone say In n Out Burgers are overrated. I said they are over saturated in our area. I like them animal style and their burgers are really good...and very fresh. I don't believe their hamburger meat is ever frozen. That being said, they really could brush up on their fries. Even animal style they aren't that great...they are ok but not great.

[kmac32]

..........I live 2 blocks away from that show location in Culver City. I can state, unequivocally, that In-'N-Out burgers are not overrated. Their fries, on the other hand, need work (unless you order them "animal style"). Any negativity towards In-'N-Out, is borderline blasphemy.

For any of you planning to attend the show, there's an In 'N Out approximately 1 mile or so away from the location--East on Venice Blvd.

;)Michael

Actually, some locations of In Nd Out are better than others. The one we have here in the Palm Springs area isn't that good. The one in San Bernadino is awesome. Would still trade one for an occasional Staek and Shake in SoCal

[pepis]

Thanks for that information, Pepe. We had heard that there were shows there previously but didn't know who held them. I believe Phil Regli mentioned that there were shows there in past. Are you still in Southern Cal?

Phil Regli, that name sounds familiar, is he one of the vintage ungraded cards
dealer still left at the Frank & sons weekly show??

[oaks1912]

Hey Jason..You're off to a great start. If 5% of the 1800+ viewers (so far) show up, you've got 90 people through the doors already.... If you combine that with a burger eating contest, you might get 200 people through the doors...Let me call Joey CHestnut and see what he charges for appearance fees:)

[rdwyer]

Pepis: Yes Phil is from Frank and Sons. You might have saw him recently on Storage wars. He was appraising a newspaper of Elvis's passing, and a newspaper from the first World Series.

[Wite3]

I cannot wait...will certainly be there...I miss the old card shows of the '80s with tables set up specifically for trading and a variety of dealers.

Joshua

[Jaybird]

Hey Jason..You're off to a great start. If 5% of the 1800+ viewers (so far) show up, you've got 90 people through the doors already.... If you combine that with a burger eating contest, you might get 200 people through the doors...Let me call Joey CHestnut and see what he charges for appearance fees:)

No food contests! In fact, we were talking on the ride home from Anaheim and thought there was no need for announcements of any kind nor any music. I'm enjoying a great hobby conversation and I get bombarded with, "Steve Garvey still signing!" for the 10th time. If you're on the show floor all day, that stuff can get tiring very quickly.

There will, however, be a wet t-shirt contest ;)

[Griffins]

..........I live 2 blocks away from that show location in Culver City. I can state, unequivocally, that In-'N-Out burgers are not overrated. Their fries, on the other hand, need work (unless you order them "animal style"). Any negativity towards In-'N-Out, is borderline blasphemy.

For any of you planning to attend the show, there's an In 'N Out approximately 1 mile or so away from the location--East on Venice Blvd.

;)Michael

Michael, that In and Out is 3 blocks from my studio at Helms, that is what I was basing my blasphemy on.
Keep heading west on Culver til you hit the beach and you'll see The Shack.

Mark, the sausage eating contest at the show last week was a new low. The funny part was the guy was walking about giving away the leftover sausages and he grabbed one in the tongs and put it directly in Adam's hands- it was so hot it almost seared off his fingerprints. Never seen him move so fast!

Josh, great finally meeting you last weekend, look forward to seeing you in May.

[pepis]

Pepis: Yes Phil is from Frank and Sons. You might have saw him recently on Storage wars. He was appraising a newspaper of Elvis's passing, and a newspaper from the first World Series.

Thanks i thought it sounded familiar! i was a frank & sons dealer myself
for many years when it was all or 98% sports cards
Pepe

[drmondobueno]

Can't believe it...just took a part time job (after being retired 5 years) with the P. O. working Saturdays to feed the Monster!! hmmmm..maybe I can call in sick or finagle some training in L A...Or my 6th grandma died... A Saturday show sounds fantastic. Maybe talk one of my twin boys to come along, like 1981....

[Exhibitman]

Mark, the sausage eating contest at the show last week was a new low. The funny part was the guy was walking about giving away the leftover sausages and he grabbed one in the tongs and put it directly in Adam's hands- it was so hot it almost seared off his fingerprints. Never seen him move so fast

Hey, I resemble that remark!

[Spiegel83]

Candidly, we're also hoping that a one-day show will bring out the old-school weekend warriors, the guys with no real business plan, inventory, etc., and no real ambition to be 'dealers' but a lot of accumulated stuff that they'd like to turn over and would otherwise either send to an auctioneer or put on Ebay. Just the excess stuff I've sent to an auctioneer over the last year could fill a table easily and I'm sure I am not unique in that respect. My hope is that a table fee of under $100 and a one-day time commitment will convince those guys to come out and give it a shot. So, anyone reading who is SoCal local, mark May 18th and think about taking a table. Bring out your doubles, your triples and your stuff that no one would possibly want--you might be surprised.

We will have table contracts and a table selection sheet ready in a week or two.


Hello, my name is Michael. I just signed up for this site and saw this thread on SoCal card shows. I may be interested in getting a table at the Culver City show. Need to get rid of some excess cardboard and make some room.

I also saw a comment that someone posted about starting a card club. I am also interested in that as a way to maybe get some face to face trades going. Those are the type of trades from my childhood.

Thanks!

[Jaybird]

Hello, my name is Michael. I just signed up for this site and saw this thread on SoCal card shows. I may be interested in getting a table at the Culver City show. Need to get rid of some excess cardboard and make some room.

I also saw a comment that someone posted about starting a card club. I am also interested in that as a way to maybe get some face to face trades going. Those are the type of trades from my childhood.

Thanks!

Hey Michael - welcome to the site. Would love to have you at the show. Give me a shout through the link on the site below and I'll hit you back by email or phone. We've got a dealer agreement now and below is a show layout. We need to do a more detailed scout to make sure this will work as planned but is pretty close. The entrance is located down the aisle between tables 7 and 8. All tables are 8 foot tables. Let us know if you have any questions.

One thought is to have this first show and have a signup list for anyone wanting to participate in the card club. Then we can start an email thread or chain and post the next meetup on the socalcollectors site. Monthly or bi-monthly, maybe?

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/VeteransLayout_zps611f59d6.jpg

[Spiegel83]

Thanks for the info. I will contact you through your website.

[Rich Klein]

To order the fries crispy. Otherwise, those are terrible. The burgers are uniformly good.

Rich