Goodwin missing color t206 plank auction

[g_vezina_c55]

A verry cool card. Any guess on the final price ?
Starting bid 40K...


http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=26242&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=0&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=Extremely-Rare-“Piedmont-Cigarettes-150-Subjects”-T206-Eddie-Plank-w/VIRTUALLY-UNIQUE-“NO-COLOR”-Bac ?

[wazoo]

Calling Chris Browne! Where ya at? This is his type of card :) Same with Johnny V!

[atx840]

I knew this one was coming...the dream card. I'd need a zero taken off before I could even start :(

Thanks for the heads up.

[mrvster]

Thanks!! This is Chris's;).....I want the wagner scrap:D

[Sean]

I knew this one was coming...the dream card. I'd need a zero taken off before I could even start :(

Thanks for the heads up.

Chris,
Don't give up, maybe some day you'll reunite this Plank with the other "missing color" Plank. But I'm afraid that you have to start by getting this one.

[wazoo]

thanks!! This is chris's;).....i want the wagner scrap:d

One day it'll be yours :D

[atx840]

Thanks Sean, Johnny and Waz.

That's part of the fun of these little things isnt it...dreaming big :D

[barrysloate]

Does PSA make a distinction between "hand cut" and "trimmed"? That card is almost certainly hand cut from a rejected sheet or scrap; "trimmed" sounds like somebody tried to alter it to make it look better.

No a big deal, but "hand cut" would be a more accurate description.

[mrvster]

thanks guys!!

plank printer scraps missing colors are both my second dream cards, with of course wagner scrap or factory issue at my dreamcard.......everyday i dream about getting the wagner, for many many years now.....it's haunting me:o...

if it takes me a lifetime, i'm going keep working at it:D...i



Barry,

psa nor sgc label any cards as "scrap" or "hand-cut"....I have been begging for a label on the flip as "printer scrap" catagorization, but sgc is leaving that distinction soley to the collector to differentiate, i have not contacted psa about it, but will see how these tpg handle it(it would be a dream job of mine to be a t206 "scrap" grader one day)....they(sgc) will put sometimes just "A" or "color variartion" ..."missing ink" and some other differentitions...in the case of psa ,"A","trimmed" or "no holder" or "no voucher" "missing ink" are found sometimes on a scrap's label....


....Scrap is "in the eye of the beholder"....well that assumption of a card being scrap is determined by us "experts":D....I can usually tell a scrap a mile away, or anyone else for that matter when they are dramatically askew , and those cards i put huge premuims on(the obvious hand cut off sheet with larger wild cuts, missing 2 or more colors, extreme off register or miscut, overprints , ghosts,ect)....obviously the more "dramatic" the problem with the card, the more obvious the scrap....


I LOVE SCRAP(t206) as you can tell....who wouldn't love a "snowflake" one of a kind t206??????even the similiar scrap off the same sheet are in their own way different than the others....the printer didn't know that over 100 years ago, by in adventently set up the presses or messing up the lithography process would create these "works of art" to some people .......they are beauties in my opinion......beauty is in the eye of the beholder here, and i think more collectors are starting to realize the mystique about these odd, rare, one-of-akind t206.....I LOVE OWNING A CARD NO ONE ELSE CAN OWN:)
or only a small amout are available....an alternative printer scrap t206 set would be the ultimate inmo....btw....just the coolness:cool: factor of some of these freaks that are created....maybe tpg co.s will see it my way and put on the flip PRINTER SCRAP" when the obvious ones ....btw...in all due respect to the players pictured and are long gone:o......but i dont want to start a t206 print scrap rant:D


some scraps are a little tougher to differentiate, and those that are "borderline" scrap and not as obvious scrap i call "tweener" scrap and give half the price tag....this is the grey area of the scrap collecting.....some factory distributed cards may appear to be scrap, but fall short....


SO, TPG ers.......FREE SOME SCRAPS and differentiate on the label...

IMHO:

PLANK FLIP SHOULD STATE:

T206 PRINTER SCRAP PLANK

:D


Btw Barry:

BIg ups to Brooklyn:D

[ChiSoxFan]

Barry,

psa nor sgc label any cards as "scrap" or "hand-cut"....

I don't think PSA uses "HAND CUT" for T-Series cards, but they do for other cards ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1926-w512-Frankie-Frisch-8-HOF-psa-A-bvg-sgc-/321047570232?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4abfed2738&nma=true&si=AlRFBDt0YX5ikYTocOTWRBNDzkI%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[barrysloate]

Thanks Johnny. I thought for sure I've seen the "hand cut" designation somewhere. That's never appeared on a graded card before?

And Brooklyn won big time against OKC last night! Go Nets!:)

[thehoodedcoder]

you could have bought the psa 5 plank on ebay last week for 90k. after it didn't sell, he raised it to 95. its currently still for sale.

why would you bid 40, and pay 50 after the premium for the trimmed card?

thats going to hurt the price of the auction for sure. especially if you don't have to pay the fee to the seller on ebay.

kevin

[Leon]

Thanks Johnny. I thought for sure I've seen the "hand cut" designation somewhere. That's never appeared on a graded card before?

And Brooklyn won big time against OKC last night! Go Nets!:)

PSA puts the caveat (Handcut) on many of their strip cards, especially when numerically graded. That is probably where you saw it. And the fact I have applauded them numerous times on this board for that, probably has jogged your decreasing memory :).

[barrysloate]

Leon- it was also your idea to have the PSA 8 Wagner redesignated with "hand cut" on the label. I guess I assumed that wasn't the only time it would have appeared, and that there was precedent.

I've always thought of the word "trimmed" as something negative, as a deception to artificially make a card seem better than it is. In the case of the Plank nothing bad was done to it.

[g_vezina_c55]

I've always thought of the word "trimmed" as something negative, as a deception to artificially make a card seem better than it is. In the case of the plank nothing bad was done to it.

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[Leon]

Leon- it was also your idea to have the PSA 8 Wagner redesignated with "hand cut" on the label. I guess I assumed that wasn't the only time it would have appeared, and that there was precedent.

I've always thought of the word "trimmed" as something negative, as a deception to artificially make a card seem better than it is. In the case of the Plank nothing bad was done to it.

Yes it was Barry. And I and approximately 30% :( (if I remember correctly) of the board agreed with me. I agree that "trimming" has a negative connotation while "handcut" doesn't, as much. Personally, I would always prefer "handcut" over "trimmed" on a flip when it's warranted.

[barrysloate]

Agreed.

[g_vezina_c55]

bidding is open..

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Thanks!! This is Chris's;).....I want the wagner scrap:D

Does anyone have a pic of the Wags scrap? I don't think I've seen it

[atx840]

#19 @ T206Resource.com

http://www.t206resource.com/Wagner-Gallery.html

http://i.imgur.com/qlwbA.jpg

[Rob D.]

Speaking of scrap and T206Resource.com:

http://t206resource.com/Article-T206Resource-2013REA.html

[Jlighter]

Speaking of scrap and T206Resource.com:

http://t206resource.com/Article-T206Resource-2013REA.html


:eek:
Thanks for the info, looks like I have to start saving my pennies.:(

[g_vezina_c55]

Just a recall if anyone want to bid :) auction end tonight!

now the highest bid is 77 951 $.

Not a bad profit, last time that card was for sale the final bid was : 26 290 in 2009.

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=716&lotNo=81096

[Vol]

Speaking of scrap and T206Resource.com:

http://t206resource.com/Article-T206Resource-2013REA.html

Wow. Very cool.