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jgmp123
11-19-2012, 10:58 PM
I just took a chance on this Chief Bender and Earle Combs signed newspaper...Also, has Jimmie Dykes...

Thoughts on the Chief and Combs???:)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Phila-Athletics-newspaper-w-14-autographs-Chief-Bender-Earl-Combs-Dykes-/400339606321?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&nma=true&si=ngLYjiCJBNxCnaPobiOusHa0oRY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

David Atkatz
11-19-2012, 11:07 PM
They are both good.
But I don't understand your worry. It's obviously an in-person piece--all signed at the same time, with the same pencil. They're either all good, or the whole thing's a forgery. And why anyone would forge those names would be a real mystery.

jgmp123
11-19-2012, 11:11 PM
Let's just call it typical paranoia....

ATP
11-19-2012, 11:19 PM
Looks good to me, and I have spent many hours studying Chief Bender's signature.

tazdmb
11-20-2012, 08:22 AM
Now I know who outbid me on that item, Glad to know going to a fellow forum member.

jgmp123
11-20-2012, 08:54 AM
Ha! Sorry about that...Working on the HOF collection and couldn't beat the great price for the two.....:D

whyconform
11-20-2012, 02:05 PM
Nice pickup to the HOF collection.

I'm at a point now where getting individual items are too expensive. Team sheets and multiple guys on album pages seem to be the best option as you progress........ For instance, I had a SP leg. cut Frick, Razor Sports Icons Warren Giles, a Stinson Paul Waner, and PSA/DNA cut Dizzy Dean. All together prolly $500 individually, but recently won a Cy Young PSA/DNA encapulated album page for $7xx with waner, dean, giles, and frick also on the page! So I sold off the individual guys and basically got a Cy Young PSA/DNA for ~$200 bucks all said and done.

jgmp123
11-20-2012, 02:48 PM
Very nice...

tazdmb
11-20-2012, 02:56 PM
Ha! Sorry about that...Working on the HOF collection

Same here, already had Combs so wasn't too keen on paying to add another to my collection. The first is on a Check, which I prefer. All is fair in Love and HOF autograph buying. :D

jgmp123
11-20-2012, 03:13 PM
TazDMB,

Do you have a website?

tazdmb
11-21-2012, 09:05 AM
No, I really need to set one up just don't know how. By the way, thank you for not overbidding me on Bill McKechnie last night.

jgmp123
11-21-2012, 10:09 AM
Ha! No problem.

Runscott
11-21-2012, 10:51 AM
They are both good.
But I don't understand your worry. It's obviously an in-person piece--all signed at the same time, with the same pencil. They're either all good, or the whole thing's a forgery. And why anyone would forge those names would be a real mystery.

If I were a forger, I'd add the other names so that a potential buyer would think what you just did. Example: a 1927 Yankees baseball with Ruth and Gehrig - add the other minor player names and it makes those two look just that more legit.

David Atkatz
11-21-2012, 12:14 PM
Hmmm... Do you think that Jimmie Dykes decided to scrunch his name into the corner, in order to leave a big space for someone to add a signature fifty years later?

Runscott
11-21-2012, 12:25 PM
David, I was just responding to a statement you made, not saying that the autographs are fake.

On the other hand, I wouldn't touch a penciled autograph, regardless of how legit it looked.

David Atkatz
11-21-2012, 12:35 PM
I agree one must be careful with team sheets, Scott.

What's wrong with pencil autographs? (It was the writing instrument of choice for kids gathering signatures.)

Runscott
11-21-2012, 12:57 PM
I agree one must be careful with team sheets, Scott.

What's wrong with pencil autographs? (It was the writing instrument of choice for kids gathering signatures.)

As you know, one must be careful with ANY team items, not just sheets.

Regarding pencil autographs, it doesn't matter to me whether or not children prefer pencils - I want my autographs to be in ink. Again, the disclaimer that I don't disagree that this sheet is legit; however, IF you were going to forge a sheet like this, it would be easier to create a legit-looking forgery using a pencil, as opposed to a fountain pen (assuming we are in pre ballpoint pen era). I would be amazed if anyone disputed this.

Here's is a great thread where many (including yourself) discuss the wonders of lead: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=124499&page=4