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zljones
10-21-2012, 01:43 PM
I finally sent my Addie to the SGC to have it crossed over. I did not do an official crossover, instead I cracked the PSA case open and sent the raw card to the SGC, it got a nice upgrade. Unfortunately I may have to sell this now.

Seems like T205 Addie Joss is becoming more common now, am I correct?

sycks22
10-21-2012, 02:02 PM
Addie looks indifferent about the crossover:cool:

HRBAKER
10-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Addie crossed over a long time ago.

travrosty
10-21-2012, 02:27 PM
thats the problem with card grading. its so ridiculous that one day its a 1 , the next its a 2, or a 5? its so stupid all around to grade cards when we all have a pair of eyes.

familytoad
10-21-2012, 02:40 PM
Well without holding the card in person, I would say the SGC card grade looks to be right. Nice card, although looking at my avatar may lead you to think bias on my part:)

I wouldn't proclaim the T205 Joss card to be more common. I think that just like any other valuable card, they appear in cycles, times when you can get good return for them.

I've beem spying around trying to find a good price on a SGC McIntyre, and looking through the last 3-400 listings, I see a half dozen Joss cards and only recall seeing one McIntyre (priced too high) That surely doesn't tell me that Joss is six times more available. it just indicates that selling a $900 card is more favorable than selling a $40 right now.

Folks here mention the cold temperature of certain sets, t205 mentioned frequently. That seems to be the case, but if you have Joss, Cobb, Johnson, Wilhelm in that set for sale, your cards are going to be pretty stable. Selling Beck, Austin, McIntyre, or Stanage could bring some low prices right now, so you may as well hold onto them...

zljones
10-21-2012, 03:33 PM
Well without holding the card in person, I would say the SGC card grade looks to be right. Nice card, although looking at my avatar may lead you to think bias on my part:)

I wouldn't proclaim the T205 Joss card to be more common. I think that just like any other valuable card, they appear in cycles, times when you can get good return for them.

I've beem spying around trying to find a good price on a SGC McIntyre, and looking through the last 3-400 listings, I see a half dozen Joss cards and only recall seeing one McIntyre (priced too high) That surely doesn't tell me that Joss is six times more available. it just indicates that selling a $900 card is more favorable than selling a $40 right now.

Folks here mention the cold temperature of certain sets, t205 mentioned frequently. That seems to be the case, but if you have Joss, Cobb, Johnson, Wilhelm in that set for sale, your cards are going to be pretty stable. Selling Beck, Austin, McIntyre, or Stanage could bring some low prices right now, so you may as well hold onto them...

Thanks for that input on the Joss. I have been tearing my hair out trying to decide to either sell this Joss or my Willie Mays rookie card and Roberto Clemente Rookie card. :confused: I just got concerned because I used to see Addies pop up about every 90 days and now they seem to have been appearing more frequently and have been selling for less. I saw a graded good condition one sell on the bay for only 450 and it was about as nice as mine.

Leon
10-21-2012, 04:06 PM
thats the problem with card grading. its so ridiculous that one day its a 1 , the next its a 2, or a 5? its so stupid all around to grade cards when we all have a pair of eyes.

Ignorance is bliss.

Fred
10-21-2012, 04:30 PM
Zach,

The only plausible explanation for the PSA grade is that the original PSA grader wrote "2" "OC" on the flip and the person that handled it next misinterpreted his guide dog and mistyped "1" "MC" on the atual flip instead.... I hear that happens quite often at PSA...

HRBAKER
10-21-2012, 04:31 PM
I think the issue that kept it from getting a higher grade @ PSA was the fact that there is no apparent paperloss. ;)

E93
10-21-2012, 04:35 PM
Is the back miscut/way off center?
JimB

buymycards
10-21-2012, 05:01 PM
Fred, that was a good one.

novakjr
10-21-2012, 05:06 PM
Why have a MC on a 1? By registry standards, that card would've been the equivalent of a NEGATIVE 1. Something doesn't quite make sense about that..

zljones
10-21-2012, 05:07 PM
Is the back miscut/way off center?
JimB

O yea, it quite a bit off.

DerekD
10-21-2012, 05:10 PM
Why have a MC on a 1? By registry standards, that card would've been the equivalent of a NEGATIVE 1. Something doesn't quite make sense about that..

It still would count as a 1 on the registry.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q & 1.5Q = no deduction

novakjr
10-21-2012, 07:37 PM
It still would count as a 1 on the registry.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q & 1.5Q = no deduction

cool. I didn't know that they stopped deducting at some point... So according to that list, a 1.5Q counts higher than a 2Q!!!

tbob
10-21-2012, 08:46 PM
It still would count as a 1 on the registry.

9Q = -2
8Q = -2
7Q = -2
6Q = -2
5Q = -2
4Q = -2
3Q = -1
2Q = -1
1Q & 1.5Q = no deduction

That's frigging goofy! A 1.5Q is higher on the registry than a 2Q and a card which is almost a 5 (excellent) and grades 4Q is the same as a card which is close to a 2Q but barely scrapes a 3Q???? Weird...:confused:

zljones
10-22-2012, 09:13 AM
I have had to make the painful decision to sell this if anyone is interested here is the Ebay link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290797546044?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

michael3322
10-22-2012, 09:44 AM
I wrote about the silliness of it all a few months ago re: Dimitri Young's PSA collection...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=150464&highlight=Dmitri