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SMPEP
08-13-2012, 11:59 AM
A little staining. A crease at the bottom. Surface wear. This sure screams PSA 4 to me! Seriously, how is PSA not embarassed by this? If I were them, I'd buy the card, just to relabel it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-190-Don-Johnson-PSA-4-/150877565387?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item232100f1cb

Cheers,
Patrick

ullmandds
08-13-2012, 12:04 PM
I agree with you 100%...what crap!

GasHouseGang
08-13-2012, 12:08 PM
Where are these graders when I submit cards???

vintagetoppsguy
08-13-2012, 12:09 PM
A crease at the bottom.

And a crease at the top too.

brob28
08-13-2012, 01:17 PM
Collector: "What's up with this grade, doesn't seem right me"

PSA Grader: "Yep that was a tough one, I was torn between a 4 and a 5, but I always grade conservatively"

WillowGrove
08-13-2012, 08:27 PM
I guess the back is like really, really nice?



PSA should be really embarrassed. yuk

cobblove
08-13-2012, 08:36 PM
Looks like it got wet after grading. Stains on the edge and all

CobbSpikedMe
08-13-2012, 08:43 PM
I don't usually post on grading threads, but wow, this is really bad.

cwazzy
08-13-2012, 09:27 PM
Looks like it got wet after grading. Stains on the edge and all

+1

egbeachley
08-13-2012, 09:52 PM
The slab looks dry and crease-free to me. Bid away!

Wymers Auction
08-14-2012, 12:43 AM
That is one ugly 4!!!!

Runscott
08-15-2012, 03:20 PM
Here's a PSA 7 that I don't get at all. Did 'Harris Collection' cards get submitted by the auction house?

T206 from Harris collection (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIKE-MITCHELL-1909-T206-SWEET-CAPORAL-HARRIS-COLLECTION-PSA-7-/400313126518)

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MIKE-MITCHELL-1909-T206-SWEET-CAPORAL-HARRIS-COLLECTION-PSA-7-/00/s/MTIwMlg3MTk=/$(KGrHqZHJEsE+T-QQSm-BQGDqjOROg~~60_57.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/MIKE-MITCHELL-1909-T206-SWEET-CAPORAL-HARRIS-COLLECTION-PSA-7-/00/s/MTIwMlg3MTk=/$(KGrHqNHJBEE+P7UkSqlBQGDqiydMw~~60_57.JPG

vintagetoppsguy
08-15-2012, 03:29 PM
I don't think the Johnson got wet after being slabbed. Otherwise, you would see some staining on the flip too. I guess anything is possible though.

Mitchell looks like a 7 to me, but it should have a ST qualifier.

Runscott
08-15-2012, 03:35 PM
On the Mitchell, all corners are bumped except the bottom left - to me it's more than 'slight fraying on some corners'. Also, I don't think the printing blemishes (multiple) on the back are minor.

Perhaps I'm being overly-critical.

NM 7: Near Mint
A PSA NM 7 is a card with just a slight surface wear visible upon close inspection. There may be slight fraying on some corners. Picture focus may be slightly out-of-register. A minor printing blemish is acceptable. Slight wax staining is acceptable on the back of the card only. Most of the original gloss is retained. Centering must be approximately 70/30 to 75/25 or better on the front and 90/10 or better on the back.

Runscott
08-15-2012, 03:36 PM
My bad - those minor blemishes on the back are actually a 'ghost'.

So give it the 'ghost' line at the bottom of the flip, and we're good.