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chadeast
06-14-2012, 10:59 PM
Does anyone have any images or information on 1955 Topps 110 card uncut sheets? I've searched for some time, and have found images of 1952, 1953, 1956 uncut sheets, among others, but I have never seen more for 1955 than a 5x5 grid of cards that was auctioned off by REA a few years ago. I've heard mention that they are known to exist, by REA themselves for one, but I've never actually see evidence of it.
Thanks for any knowledge you can send my way :)
Chad
Cardboard Junkie
06-15-2012, 02:06 PM
Aloha Chad, I'm with you..never saw even an image of uncut 55 sheet! dave
ALR-bishop
06-15-2012, 02:44 PM
Dave Hornish has a partial sheet on his blog and says uncut sheets exist. Don't know if he actually has a scan of one. He posts here
toppcat
06-16-2012, 08:02 AM
I also have a full sheet scan but it's really murky. It's from an old REA print auction and Rob advised me he does not have a better picture or scan unfortunately:
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/55uncutrea.jpg
chadeast
06-16-2012, 12:46 PM
Thank you Dave! Assuming that the photo is real, this is a gold mine of info for me. Anyone familiar enough with the 55 Topps set can probably name every card by sight even in this resolution. Off the top of my head, I see a lot of low number cards, Billy Herman, Rhodes, Aaron, Kaline, maybe a Ted Williams bottom left? Pretty sure I see a monte irvin, 100, third row center. Sandy Amaros on top left? So this is definitely a first series sheet.
I'm pathetically excited right now, like I just spotted Bigfoot :) Thanks for making my day.
Chad
toppcat
06-16-2012, 01:09 PM
Thank you Dave! Assuming that the photo is real, this is a gold mine of info for me. Anyone familiar enough with the 55 Topps set can probably name every card by sight even in this resolution. Off the top of my head, I see a lot of low number cards, Billy Herman, Rhodes, Aaron, Kaline, maybe a Ted Williams bottom left? Pretty sure I see a monte irvin, 100, third row center. Sandy Amaros on top left? So this is definitely a first series sheet.
I'm pathetically excited right now, like I just spotted Bigfoot :) Thanks for making my day.
Chad
I have some of it sketched out; I may post it on my blog and see what everyone can come up with. I will just say it is not a typical Topps array for now.
ALR-bishop
06-16-2012, 01:12 PM
Dave has been known to have that affect on Topps collectors
jmoran19
06-16-2012, 03:16 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfoldersfh/jmoran19/uncutsheets//55toppspart.jpg
jmoran19
06-16-2012, 03:17 PM
all I could find for now, will look for others later, John
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfoldersfh/jmoran19/uncutsheets//55jackier.jpg
toppcat
06-17-2012, 07:05 AM
These sheets correlate to the '55 Stamps as well-I don't have time now but will post what I have in a few days.
ALR-bishop
06-17-2012, 07:43 AM
My only 55 Stamp. Same size as cards , but a real stamp
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj555/Bishop539/mossi-1.jpg?t=1336237687
chadeast
06-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Great stuff guys! Keep it coming!
So the REA 5x5 grid (the one with Aaron) correlates perfectly to the 110 card image. That one I've seen. The second 5x5 grid posted is new to me. And there is a correlation problem with the 110 card image. The last column, cards #2 and 3 down, do not appear to match. In fact, the third row down card appears to be another Wally MOON on the 110 image. This is confirmed to also appear on row 10 columns 5 and 11. It may not be the Moon, but it is definitely not the card shown in the second 5x5 image.
Interesting stuff.
Chad
I would think that there has to be some uncut sheets of the T'55 set somewhere. I would be intrested in knowing how the cards where placed on the uncut sheets. Does anyone have any info about the way the cards were placed on the sheet?
If you ever have the oppertunity to see the complete set together all lined up it a beautiful sight indeed!
Jay Wolt
06-20-2012, 10:00 AM
A friend of mine has a '55 sheet, not sure if its for sale, but its cool & figured all would like to see it.
http://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/55topps110.JPG
ALR-bishop
06-20-2012, 10:48 AM
Great addition to the thread Jay
judsonhamlin
06-20-2012, 08:27 PM
Is it possible that the old REA scan is of the '55 stamps? If you look at the images on that compared to the full color (and amazing) sheet, there are players repeated in columns that are different than that REA shot. Billy Herman is repeated in a different position than on the color sheet, and Carl Spooner shows up in different places on the b&w photo and the 5x5 cut (but not the big color shyer) Also, and less persuasive given the quality of the shot, it appears that the REA shot has perforations around the edges.
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toppcat
06-21-2012, 05:51 AM
The 55 sheets seem inconsistent to me in terms of replication of rows across the sheets-there is some randomness not normally associated with Topps on the two sheets shown. I think they left spots open to allow for players contested by Bowman to be pulled and replaced with cards of other players on the sheet if they had to.
The REA B&W sheet is not stamps, it's definitely cards, as confirmed to me by Rob. I have a schematic of the stamps I have worked up, I have to reformat it to get it to show here-working on it tonight maybe.
toppcat
06-21-2012, 02:57 PM
This is the array I have worked up for the stamps, which you can correlate to John's two color partials (his top one is the bottom part of the sheet and eliminate the left columns on each). The REA B&W sheet above has variance in the array beyond the normal Topps method of replicating rows - some cards are randomly placed and there is at least one quadruple print-I have not yet figured out the whole B&W sheet and won't have a chance for a while. The full color sheet is intriguing but much more normalized; I am not yet convinced Topps only used two sheets for each print run like they normally did for the baseball cards-it may have been more in 1955, which is also the first year of 110 card sheets. Players in red are unconfirmed; I have included Aaron as confirmed as two separate sources indicate it exists. You will note each row and column has at least one confirmed stamp in it, which leads me to belive the unconfirmed stamps should have been printed.
The size of this array roughly matches that of a 1955 Rails & Sails uncut stamp sheet as well-that one had a lot of partials but I am not sure if the baseball stamps have any known partials.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p280/dsh46/stamparray.jpg
Rails & Sails stamp sheet is discussed here: http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/search/label/1955%20Topps%20Rails%20and%20Sails%20Stamps
ALR-bishop
06-21-2012, 03:22 PM
I did see a badly beat up Aaron that a guy was offering to sell for $ 5 k. I have not seen any others besides the Mossi that I ended up with. I think Larry has some.
sflayank
06-21-2012, 04:14 PM
al
you saw an aaron?
i dont have any that dave doesnt list
larry
A friend of mine has a '55 sheet, not sure if its for sale, but its cool & figured all would like to see it.
http://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/55topps110.JPG
Wow! Just Wow! It almost looks like my set when I have it all out lined up next to each other. Thanks for the picture! Looking at this sheet I do not see any pattern. It looks like they were just randomly placed on this sheet.