CarltonHendricks
05-12-2012, 07:36 PM
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I attended the once a year the Old West Antiques Show (http://www.grassvalleyoldwest.com/default.html) in Grass Valley CA and found this Bowling and Billiards sign. It’s cobalt blue porcelain, 54” wide x 18” tall. I’ve been attending this show for about ten years and this is one of the best pieces I’ve picked up there. I sort of bought it in a hurry as I made the deal about the time I was supposed to leave. The show is known for having great quality, one of the last great shows going. I had to give serious money but now that I’ve had time to digest it I’m very glad I pulled the trigger….elated really! A lot of both Bowling and Billiards were in Europe in the 19th and early 20th century….But this sign in pure 100% American, prominently marked Federal Electric Co. Chicago Patn’d!!!! As far as American Bowling Billiard signs go, I just can’t imagine a better one!
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On table as found at show
When I first saw it on the sellers table it had another sign in front of it and I didn’t recognize what it said…I could only see the word billiards partially and I initially dismissed it as some kind of sign for a lawyer or something named “Billard”….then as I moved the other sign out of the way to see it I still didn’t quite get what it said right away…it had some funky plastic wrap on the ends that were holding together that aluminum frame and it just threw me off….then when I stepped back and realized what it was I got the full impact and went on full alert….For me it was pretty much the best thing I saw at the show….I really didn’t want to spend the money but I knew it was the best Bowling Billiards sign I’d probably ever see so…the ball started rolling and after a little walking around I went back to negotiate the price…The guy said he initially was asking $ ______ but that he would take $______ ….then within a minute he dropped it $50.00….then as I kept looking at it he dropped it to $_____ I said…well…if you’re in the mood to bargain how about $_____ He immediatly shot back $50.00 over my offer….and he pretty much had me…..then again without even asking he goes….tell ya what…make it cash and I’ll go your $____... done deal I gave him $100.00 cash and told him I was going to the bank and would be back shortly with the balance…he goes…here take it with you…so I took it out to my car and quickly learned it wouldn’t fit in my trunk by only a few inches….which meant sticking up out my convertible….which I latter ended up having to put up the top on the way home…
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Once home I got that funky home spun aluminum frame off and it bowed a little.…I guess the seller had the frame on to keep it straight but the little bit of bow doesn’t bother me at all. Funny thing is I drove three hours to get to the show and bought the sign from a dealer I see once a month at Alameda. He’s a very serious San Francisco collector…I think it was about a year or so ago he sold an extremely rare 19th century San Francisco baseball scene photo for $10,000.00. He must have already spent the money cause he said the only reason he was selling this sign was he was buying some rare cdv of an Indian, or gold prospector, or some kind of old west image……he had me pay the money directly to the guy he was buying it from!...a win-win for everybody!
A guy there at the show that has collected porcelain signs many years, Pete Keim, told me he thought it was from about 1905-1910 and that there were only two companies in the country that made porcelain signs then…Baltimore Enamel and Novelty (http://www.porcelainplates.net/gallery_baltimore_enamel.html)…and…. Ingram-Richardson (http://www.porcelainplates.net/gallery_ing_rich.html) from Beaver Falls PA….Pete also told me as much, that since my sign is marked Federal Electric Co. Chicago, most certainly Federal Electric jobbed out the making of the sign to either Baltimore Enamel of Ingram-Richardson…but then after I got it home I noticed the marking at the right bottom corner BS CI 52 STATE ST CIII BEAVER FALLS PA….So I would assume since Ingram-Richardson was in Beaver Falls, they made the sign. Pete also said as much that though there wasn’t holes in the sign for lighting…the Federal Electric marking likely indicates the sign was somehow lighted.
I went on line and found a place in South Carolina that restores porcelain signs Van Kannel Sign Restoration….I was looking at their examples of before and after and found the porcelain Spalding sign below….
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Before Van Kannel Sign Restoration (http://www.vankannelsignrestoration.com/index.html)
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After Van Kannel Sign Restoration (http://www.vankannelsignrestoration.com/index.html)
I think I’ve come to the conclusion if I get the sign restored it will look brand new which I don’t want. I don’t think it looks that bad in its present condition…any worse and I might have had to get it restored. If I don’t restore it at least anyone who sees it will be able to tell it’s an old original sign. I’d be interested to hear other opinions…restore or don’t restore?
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I attended the once a year the Old West Antiques Show (http://www.grassvalleyoldwest.com/default.html) in Grass Valley CA and found this Bowling and Billiards sign. It’s cobalt blue porcelain, 54” wide x 18” tall. I’ve been attending this show for about ten years and this is one of the best pieces I’ve picked up there. I sort of bought it in a hurry as I made the deal about the time I was supposed to leave. The show is known for having great quality, one of the last great shows going. I had to give serious money but now that I’ve had time to digest it I’m very glad I pulled the trigger….elated really! A lot of both Bowling and Billiards were in Europe in the 19th and early 20th century….But this sign in pure 100% American, prominently marked Federal Electric Co. Chicago Patn’d!!!! As far as American Bowling Billiard signs go, I just can’t imagine a better one!
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On table as found at show
When I first saw it on the sellers table it had another sign in front of it and I didn’t recognize what it said…I could only see the word billiards partially and I initially dismissed it as some kind of sign for a lawyer or something named “Billard”….then as I moved the other sign out of the way to see it I still didn’t quite get what it said right away…it had some funky plastic wrap on the ends that were holding together that aluminum frame and it just threw me off….then when I stepped back and realized what it was I got the full impact and went on full alert….For me it was pretty much the best thing I saw at the show….I really didn’t want to spend the money but I knew it was the best Bowling Billiards sign I’d probably ever see so…the ball started rolling and after a little walking around I went back to negotiate the price…The guy said he initially was asking $ ______ but that he would take $______ ….then within a minute he dropped it $50.00….then as I kept looking at it he dropped it to $_____ I said…well…if you’re in the mood to bargain how about $_____ He immediatly shot back $50.00 over my offer….and he pretty much had me…..then again without even asking he goes….tell ya what…make it cash and I’ll go your $____... done deal I gave him $100.00 cash and told him I was going to the bank and would be back shortly with the balance…he goes…here take it with you…so I took it out to my car and quickly learned it wouldn’t fit in my trunk by only a few inches….which meant sticking up out my convertible….which I latter ended up having to put up the top on the way home…
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Once home I got that funky home spun aluminum frame off and it bowed a little.…I guess the seller had the frame on to keep it straight but the little bit of bow doesn’t bother me at all. Funny thing is I drove three hours to get to the show and bought the sign from a dealer I see once a month at Alameda. He’s a very serious San Francisco collector…I think it was about a year or so ago he sold an extremely rare 19th century San Francisco baseball scene photo for $10,000.00. He must have already spent the money cause he said the only reason he was selling this sign was he was buying some rare cdv of an Indian, or gold prospector, or some kind of old west image……he had me pay the money directly to the guy he was buying it from!...a win-win for everybody!
A guy there at the show that has collected porcelain signs many years, Pete Keim, told me he thought it was from about 1905-1910 and that there were only two companies in the country that made porcelain signs then…Baltimore Enamel and Novelty (http://www.porcelainplates.net/gallery_baltimore_enamel.html)…and…. Ingram-Richardson (http://www.porcelainplates.net/gallery_ing_rich.html) from Beaver Falls PA….Pete also told me as much, that since my sign is marked Federal Electric Co. Chicago, most certainly Federal Electric jobbed out the making of the sign to either Baltimore Enamel of Ingram-Richardson…but then after I got it home I noticed the marking at the right bottom corner BS CI 52 STATE ST CIII BEAVER FALLS PA….So I would assume since Ingram-Richardson was in Beaver Falls, they made the sign. Pete also said as much that though there wasn’t holes in the sign for lighting…the Federal Electric marking likely indicates the sign was somehow lighted.
I went on line and found a place in South Carolina that restores porcelain signs Van Kannel Sign Restoration….I was looking at their examples of before and after and found the porcelain Spalding sign below….
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Before Van Kannel Sign Restoration (http://www.vankannelsignrestoration.com/index.html)
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After Van Kannel Sign Restoration (http://www.vankannelsignrestoration.com/index.html)
I think I’ve come to the conclusion if I get the sign restored it will look brand new which I don’t want. I don’t think it looks that bad in its present condition…any worse and I might have had to get it restored. If I don’t restore it at least anyone who sees it will be able to tell it’s an old original sign. I’d be interested to hear other opinions…restore or don’t restore?
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