View Full Version : Need Some Help: 1911 Circa Oakland PCL Photo
Marckus99
03-09-2012, 06:10 PM
I think it is about 1911.....but have no idea on the player.
Any help?
Many Thx,
Mark
Chris Counts
03-09-2012, 07:58 PM
I'm surprised to see what looks like a jersey number of the sleeve of the player in your photo. Supposedly, Cleveland became the first team to use numbers in 1916. Here's a photo that's clipped out of an old baseball guide. When I picked it up, I was told it was from 1911. I doubt the numbers here correspond to the number of the sleeve. Maybe this will help ...
Chris Counts
03-09-2012, 08:06 PM
In the team photo, several of the sleeve numbers are visible. Check out the player on the far left of the top row. Not only does he appear to have a "7" on his sleeve, but he also bears some resemblance to the player in your photo. His name is Gus Hetling and he batted right handed. He was the Oaks' regular third baseman during that era and he has a few cards as well, including an Obak and a Zeenut. What do you think?
bmarlowe1
03-10-2012, 01:39 AM
That's a 1912 team photo (from the 1913 Spalding Guide). The number does match Hetling. There is one Zeenut that shows him in profile, but it doesn't help much. I would only say that it can be him.
Jcfowler6
03-10-2012, 04:52 AM
I love action shots. This is a cool image.
Marckus99
03-10-2012, 07:47 AM
First, a thanks to you guys that have chimed in....
As for the sleeve number, I have yet to receive the photo but it seems to
be "mock-up" for publication of some sort.
I will look over the team pic to see if I could guesstimate.
Thx again!!!!
Mark
Marckus99
03-10-2012, 07:50 AM
Also, if anyone is interested - the seller has another photo:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-Baseball-Old-Large-USA-/170798717605?pt=Vintage_Sports_Memorabilia&hash=item27c4659aa5
Although both pics are rough in shape, PCL pics this early are very difficult to come by, and at such an affordable price.
Note: The numbers on the sleeves of both the batter and catcher.
Regards,
Mark
Marckus99
03-10-2012, 08:02 AM
Gus Hetling it is; I believe!!!
Thx guys!
Marckus99
03-10-2012, 08:24 AM
1913 ZeeNut
bmarlowe1
03-10-2012, 12:29 PM
That is to say the least more useful than the one I posted. Nice find.