Show your cards of members of the "Black Sox" team and/or related characters

[tedzan]

I will start this show with Mgr. Kid Gleason and 4 of the players on the 1919 White Sox team. Also included, are the alleged "messengers"
between the bad guys and the players during this World Series scandal....Bill Burns and former Boxer Abe Attell.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/6charactersblacksox50.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/img88ab460chickgandil50x.jpg



T-Rex TED

[dog*dirt]

Just one from me

[Tcards-Please]

Not perfect, but fits in my collection just fine.

[Mikehealer]

http://photos.imageevent.com/mhgt/hoft206/mycollection/websize/Weaver-M101-5%20%20blank%20back.jpg

[ScottFandango]

Gandil, the mastermind!
<a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/fikas231/?action=view&amp;current=gandilphoto-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/fikas231/gandilphoto-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/fikas231/?action=view&amp;current=gandilpsadna.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/fikas231/gandilpsadna.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[jalex]

Thanks for the thread. I have been fascinated by this team since I was 8 years old. I have always felt bad for Buck Weaver, think he got screwed, the rest of them, well...

Don't own any cards of the Black Sox yet, but if I were to collect, I think it would be Weaver cards.

Cheers,

Jim

[deadballera]

another Gandil

[Ladder7]

The Joe Jax CJ is very nice!

Incidentally, They all got what they deserved. Kudos to Landis for having the cajones that Selig never will.



http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/cicottetwo-names.jpg

[Jaybird]

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/1910-1920/1916_Everybodys_Cicotte.jpg

[nolemmings]

http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m101s/huge/16m1014felsch_hp.jpg

[Vegas-guy]

:D

[frankbmd]

Chick and Eddie

[bcbgcbrcb]

Here's my favorite, 1907 Victor Mills RPPC w/Joe Jackson (back row, second from left)................

[Matt]

Phil - that is spectacular.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PRzUaWTXxrg/TO_hs_xh2ZI/AAAAAAAAJ4w/uanM1DcAnAc/s800/PC0001002.jpg

[3-2-count]

Here's my favorite, 1907 Victor Mills RPPC w/Joe Jackson (back row, second from left)................


Phil that piece is amazing!! Wow!!

[old-baseball]

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=6141http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=6139
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=6140http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=6138

[e107collector]

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[ethicsprof]

I have a Type 1 Thompson photo of Buck weaver sliding into second, under the glove of art fletcher, with Herzog looking on. Admittedly, it's the 1917 world series but it's still ole buck.
It's framed like most everything else i own.
Hope that you're feeling 100% by now!!
all the best, ole friend
barry

[kcohen]

Lefty

[ValKehl]

Another Gandil.

[Brian Van Horn]

One not mentioned so far:

[E93]

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3545/cjjacksonpsa7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/cjjacksonpsa7.jpg/)

JimB

[E93]

Love the Victory Gandil
JimB

[ErikV]

Don't forget the illusive Fred McMullin Zeenut card.

[tedzan]

Hey guys....let's not forget Ray Schalk, the 1919 White Sox great catcher....he was one of the "honest guys"
in that World Series. And, good enough to eventually be inducted into the HOF.



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/rayschalkHOFpc.jpg


T-Rex TED

[nolemmings]

My favorite card:
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m1012/huge/17fmschalk.jpg

Other m101 Schalks:
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m1012/large/13m101-2schalk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m101s/huge/16m1014schalk.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m1016/large/19m1016Schalk.jpg

[terjung]

Love that M101-6, Todd!

Here is an E107 of Kid Gleason with the tough Breisch-Williams overprint back

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Gleason.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/overprint%20back.jpg

[nolemmings]

Thanks Brian--that Breisch isn't too shabby either!
Red Faber--don't know if he's truly considered one of the Black Sox since he missed that infamous World Series with a bum ankle, but he was in the rotation during the season and is a HOFer, so here's another m101-6:
http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m1016/large/19m1016faber.jpg

[Matt]

Red Faber--don't know if he's truly considered one of the Black Sox since he missed that infamous World Series with a bum ankle, but he was in the rotation during the season and is a HOFer, so here's another m101-6:


Todd - there is an unwritten board rule that M101-6s can be shown for any reason - even no reason at all. :)

[terjung]

Todd - there is an unwritten board rule that M101-6s can be shown for any reason - even no reason at all. :)

I second that assertion!

[matty39]

weaver

[Tom S.]

Here's a different example for Schalk...

<a href="http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u169/toppsopcfan/?action=view&amp;current=img206.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u169/toppsopcfan/img206.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


Here's another one of the clean Sox - Dickie Kerr...

<a href="http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u169/toppsopcfan/raw%20prewar%20cards/?action=view&amp;current=img041.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u169/toppsopcfan/raw%20prewar%20cards/img041.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[sb1]

One not posted yet

[dstudeba]

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/forsale/Collection/1911_E100_Weaver_BVG1_4200.jpg

[tedzan]

Having been born shortly after his father was wounded in the Civil War at the battle of Kennesaw Mountain, Georgia....
his parents named him after that event.

Does anyone here have any vintage cards or pictures of Commissioner Landis ?
Please post them here.



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/kenesawmtnlandis.jpg



T-Rex TED

[Jay Wolt]

One of the fixers, "Sleppy" Bill Burns

http://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/90546628.jpg

[veloce]

Here's a Risberg that just left my collection a couple weeks ago. This thread is making me miss it.

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z448/velocheese/IMG_1336.jpg

[ksfarmboy]

Matt, awesome postcard!

[nolemmings]

Another Gandil for the gallery:

http://photos.imageevent.com/imoverhere/mym101s/m101s/huge/16m1014gandil.jpg

[Exhibitman]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/websize/T227%20Attell.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/rareboxingcards/T9%20Attell.jpg

[HRBAKER]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/ECm1014GG.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/26SpCoECollins.jpg

[E93]

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4827/1915cjcicottepsacut.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/1915cjcicottepsacut.jpg/)
JimB

[Ladder7]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/C.jpg

In need of some fresh scans;
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/Black%20Sox/31ff23f9.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/Black%20Sox/m114CWS.jpg

[Bosox Blair]

I'm sure I've posted these in another thread, but here goes anyway...I collect Cicotte as a Red Sox player:

[Bosox Blair]

A few more Cicotte:

[Bosox Blair]

And some more Cicotte:

[Bosox Blair]

Clean Eddie Collins:

[Matt]

Has the Boston Store Jax in the original post changed hands yet?

[BlueDevil89]

The alleged middleman...

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd47/BlueDevilSportscards/Hal%20Chase/HalChase1915CrackerJack99SGC40VG-1.jpg

[tedzan]

American League President from its founding in 1901 to 1927.


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/banjohnsonfleer50x.jpg


TED Z

[tedzan]

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1stchaseblue50x.jpg..........http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/akottonchase.jpghttp://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/bkottonchase.jpg

Hal Chase was indicted as an alleged middleman in the Black Sox scandal. However, he avoided extradition to Chicago, from his home in California.
His role in the scandal was never definitively established. Baseball Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis never officially expelled Chase from org-
anized baseball.


TED Z

[FourStrikes]

1912 Max Stein postcard

[Exhibitman]

The Max Stein Weaver is one of my favorites; nice card!

[Brian Campf]

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[FrankWakefield]

Here are a few items....

I kept the white border tobacco cards in the box, since they seem much maligned of late.

5 of the W514s, Sleepy Burns ZeeNut, an assortment of Abe Attell cards, and do any of you recognize those round things at the bottom of the scan?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/Blacksoxstuff.jpg

[ledsters]

This one is for sale. PM me an offer....

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa171/ledsters/1977shakeysjackson.jpg

[bcbgcbrcb]

Great card, Kevin, best of luck with the sale!

[jb217676]

Great cards everyone, here's my contributions...

[JamesGallo]

I could be here all day as this is a focus of mine. Haven't done much cards lately and most of these are tucked away for now.

Cracker Jacks
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/crackerjacksa.jpg

Attells
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/attella.jpg

Schalk
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/schalka.jpg

Rare Jacksons, Schalk RC and a touch Ciccotte
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/jacksonsa.jpg

W514
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/w514a.jpg

T206
http://www.thetoyheaven.com/images/items/baseballcards/t206a.jpg

These are old photos and I need just a couple of Attells to have them all, so if anyone has any of the following PLMK

E75 Ketchell Photo attell name
T219 Red Cross
T220 Kopec
1942 Adams Hat Matchbook (shouldn't be on the regristry IMO but it was added)


Thanks

James G

[tedzan]

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[tedzan]

A man of integrity......Eddie Collins


http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/T201eddiecollins50x.jpg


T-Rex TED

[uffda51]

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/1919chicagoblacksox/websize/Z%201915%20Williams.JPGhttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/1919chicagoblacksox/websize/1916%20Z%20Risberg.JPGhttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/1919chicagoblacksox/websize/Zeenut%20McMullen.JPGhttp://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/1919chicagoblacksox/websize/D303%20Felsch.JPG

[irishdenny]

Thanks for the thread. I have been fascinated by this team since I was 8 years old. I have always felt bad for Buck Weaver, think he got screwed, the rest of them, well...

Don't own any cards of the Black Sox yet, but if I were to collect, I think it would be Weaver cards.

Cheers,

Jim

Hey Jim,

You think Weaver got screwed, How about Tinker?:rolleyes:

[tedzan]

Oct 9th 1919, the 8th (and final) game of this World Series was played at Comiskey Park, and we all know what happened.

But, did you know that this day was also the Anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire of 1871.....strange coincidence.



http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1955bowmanchicagofire.jpg

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt113/zanted86/1955bowmanchicagofireb.jpg



TED Z

[attellfan4life]

Here is my collection

[TheBig6]

Heres a Few More
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/hofcards/websize/n173per20Comiskeyper20SGCper2010.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/t201t202/websize/collins.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/ecards/websize/chase.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/t201t202/websize/t205cicottef_op_800x655.jpg

[Jeff Alcorn]

Here are some of my cards regarding the Black Sox. In the early '80s I wrote to a couple of players from the 1919 World Series that were still living, and Ray Fisher provided this answer when asked about Joe Jackson's play during the series.

I also corresponded with Joe Jackson's sister who was very nice and said that he had been a good brother to her and that she did not agree with everything in Donald Gropman's book, "Say it Ain't So, Joe". I sent her the Dover reprint Cracker Jack card of her brother, as she did not have any of his cards. Thsi is the first time I have tried to attach pictures, so I am sorry if they look a little goofy.

65391

[Runscott]

Paul Thompson Weaver photo

http://images.ha.com/lf?source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fnewnames %2f300%2f7%2f6%2f2%2f2%2f7622045.jpg%5d%2ccontinue onerror%5btrue%5d&scale=size%5b450x2000%5d%2coptions%5blimit%5d&source=url%5bfile%3aimages%2finetpub%2fwebuse%2fno _image_available.gif%5d%2cif%5b%28%27global.source .error%27%29%5d&sink=preservemd%5btrue%5d

[bn2cardz]

Here are some of my cards regarding the Black Sox. In the early '80s I wrote to a couple of players from the 1919 World Series that were still living, and Ray Fisher provided this answer when asked about Joe Jackson's play during the series.

I also corresponded with Joe Jackson's sister who was very nice and said that he had been a good brother to her and that she did not agree with everything in Donald Gropman's book, "Say it Ain't So, Joe". I sent her the Dover reprint Cracker Jack card of her brother, as she did not have any of his cards. Thsi is the first time I have tried to attach pictures, so I am sorry if they look a little goofy.

65391

Can you tell me what the note says? I am unable to make it out at it's size.

[Jeff Alcorn]

Hi Andy,

Sorry that the note didn't come out more clearly. It says:

Ann Arbor, Dec. 16 / 80

Dear Mr. Alcorn,

I do not remember seeing Joe making any bad play in the series.

Yours truly,

Ray L. Fisher

I can send you a larger scan if you would like, just let me know.

Jeff

[bn2cardz]

You don't really need to send a larger scan. Thank you for letting me know.

[Exhibitman]

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous3/Attell%20Auto%201.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous3/Attell%20Auto%203.jpg

Signed photo folder from Attell's restaurant

[judsonhamlin]

Here are a few items....

I kept the white border tobacco cards in the box, since they seem much maligned of late.

5 of the W514s, Sleepy Burns ZeeNut, an assortment of Abe Attell cards, and do any of you recognize those round things at the bottom of the scan?

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j106/greatwake/Blacksoxstuff.jpg

Just looking at this thread now, as I am reading David Pietrusza's book, Rothstein, and those are chips from Arnold Rothstein's Saratoga Springs casino. Rothstein was the mind and bank behind the fix, among his other "pursuits"

[FrankWakefield]

Judson, you are right. The three poker chips are from the Brook Club, Arnold Rothstein's club. That's a great book, tremendous insight into what happened, much more than from anything else I ever read about 1919. What seems likely to me is that Mr. Rothstein didn't leave anything to chance, he had 2 separate fixes in on the World Series, each independent and unknown to the other. All he needed was for one to work. I think both worked to some extent.

In Mr. Pietrusza's book I think he has a photograph that shows a poker chip or two, just like these.


And that's one fine Attell signature. I've never seen one of those. Impressive.