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Runscott
01-10-2012, 02:04 PM
This kind of surprised me. Thought it would top out around $230. PCL collectors, please enlighten us.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280801931095?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Leon
01-10-2012, 02:35 PM
My snipe of $65 didn't quite make it. :) I think this card was one of the better PCL postcards I have seen in a long time. The fact it had the players identified helped a lot....as well as the 1913 LA team had a lot of famous PCL players on it. I recognize plenty of those names from Obaks and other sets. I actually thought it would go for $200-$400 but just don't collect PC's that heavily for me to have made a real push for it. I was very surprised at the final price. Two people just had to have it....which is a great situation for the seller.

Jaybird
01-10-2012, 03:35 PM
Many of the 1910 Dingman photos have come up. To my knowledge, I've not seen this one of the 1912-13 team shot by Dingman. I've got a feeling that even if I went a couple hundred more, I still would have been outbid. Unknown card, shot by a well known PCL photographer and two people that really wanted it. That's what you get, I guess.

Legendary sold the complete 6 team set of 1910 Dingman PC's and they went for $8888, if I recall. So, that's an average of $1481 per card. And this one is not as common as the 1910s. Typically the Oakland cards go for more but still...

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=111253

So, there you go. Perhaps Mark can let us know if he's seen it before. I know a book just came out by Richard Beverage about the Los Angeles team and didn't have this photo in there and I would assume it would have been if it had been known.

bcbgcbrcb
01-10-2012, 03:51 PM
Probably a couple of heavy-duty PCL collectors with really deep pockets as I know there are. I do not recognize any of the players named on the postcard but PCL is not my thing either. I guess you have to remember that for the first half of the 20th century, baseball enthusiasts living in the western half of the US did not have a local MLB team to root for so PCL was the next best thing.

Jaybird
01-10-2012, 03:56 PM
Probably a couple of heavy-duty PCL collectors with really deep pockets as I know there are. I do not recognize any of the players named on the postcard but PCL is not my thing either. I guess you have to remember that for the first half of the 20th century, baseball enthusiasts living in the western half of the US did not have a local MLB team to root for so PCL was the next best thing.


The players are well represented in the Zeenut cards of 1912 and 1913. That being said, they are terrible cards, really not desirable and I think everyone should probably focus on others things.

slidekellyslide
01-10-2012, 04:04 PM
I'd be surprised if a PCL team postcard from that era DIDN'T sell for nearly $1,000. They almost always do. The winner of the postcard is the biggest PCL collector around...don't know who the underbidder is.

Runscott
01-10-2012, 04:05 PM
Thanks guys. I will not only retract my posted surprise (and add unabashed look of ignorance), but will also retract my stunned reaction when I saw the $200 price-tags on 1920's PCL team postcards being sold at the Fall show in Washington State.

baseballart
01-10-2012, 04:11 PM
Thanks guys. I will not only retract my posted surprise (and add unabashed look of ignorance), but will also retract my stunned reaction when I saw the $200 price-tags on 1920's PCL team postcards being sold at the Fall show in Washington State.

The cost of living is high, here in the Pacific NW ;).

caramelcard
01-10-2012, 04:25 PM
I guess it depends on what you're really interested in, but I would pay a nice price for this or any PCL PC from this era.

I thought this one was low, but the market for these is so competitive that some folks don't even try for them anymore. Oh, poor me...

Rob

Runscott
01-10-2012, 06:26 PM
The cost of living is high, here in the Pacific NW ;).

I have a completely different idea about postcards than most people: they generally have to be very clear RPPC's, and have an interesting image (not a run-of-the-mill team shot). Thus, although I understand the rarity and collectability of this type of team card, it has no real interest for me. Still, I bid $110 on it and wouldn't have felt horrible if I had won.

asphaltman
01-10-2012, 07:32 PM
I was thinking $500ish. But hey its nice nowadays to see anything not go for 70% of what you think it should.

Jaybird
01-10-2012, 08:48 PM
I think if it was the known 1910 Dingman postcard, it would've gone for $500-$600. But this is a card that I haven't seen and an image of this team 1912-13 that I haven't seen. If Mark Macrae hasn't seen it either then I'd venture to say there aren't that many (if any?) others out there. Of course, others surface but what price can you put on a unique card.

I agree. Nice to see things get some good money. Speaks well for our hobby.

dstudeba
01-11-2012, 04:13 PM
I guess you have to remember that for the first half of the 20th century, baseball enthusiasts living in the western half of the US did not have a local MLB team to root for so PCL was the next best thing.

Some of us think PCL is better.

http://www.baseballcardresource.com/img/10e99/10e99_Wolverton_A.jpg

Jaybird
01-11-2012, 04:51 PM
yup...

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/1910-1920/IMG-6.jpghttp://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/1910-1920/IMG_0001-6.jpg