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Dalkiel
09-26-2011, 04:18 PM
I picked this up at a local estate sale. Outside of the obvious (Johnson & Foxx) are any of the signatures on here rare or valued? Can anyone make out who signed above Walter Johnson on the sweet spot?

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dog*dirt
09-26-2011, 04:26 PM
I can see sam rice and jimmy dykes from what i can see

refz
09-26-2011, 04:49 PM
looks like joe cronin under joe judge?

Dalkiel
09-26-2011, 04:59 PM
After some research it seems to be mostly a multi-year Senators ball with some extras. Johnson stopped playing in 1927 and Joe Cronin started with Washington in 1928, yet they're both present. And, of course, Jimmie Foxx never played for the Senators.

slidekellyslide
09-26-2011, 09:03 PM
Okay, since it was an estate sale find I got to ask..How much? :D

Was it an auction or tag sale?

Great score!

packs
09-26-2011, 09:17 PM
Muddy Reul and Sam Jones are nice ones.

Dalkiel
09-26-2011, 09:52 PM
Okay, since it was an estate sale find I got to ask..How much? :D

Was it an auction or tag sale?

Great score!

Unfortunately it was at a upscale auction house. They didn't know exactly what they had, but knew enough to put it in the display case. Enough knowledgeable buyers go there that a few knew it was a good ball, so I didn't get the steal of the year or anything.

prewarsports
09-26-2011, 10:22 PM
Thats a light Heinie Manush on the sweet spot above Johnson FYI. None of the others add to the value any, your money is in the Johnson and Foxx despite some additional nice names. Probably an $800-$1250 ball so a nice pickup for sure.

Rhys Yeakley

Dalkiel
09-27-2011, 05:19 AM
I was thinking $1000-$1500, but yes, in that ballpark.

Dalkiel
10-29-2011, 06:28 PM
Just a little bump to show what I picked up 6 days after I picked up this ball (1931 Senators et al), also at an estate sale, for $22.50!

And, YES, that is a King of Pop signature as a bonus!

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1966 Pirates

The best two sports items I've ever found at estate sales came within a week of each other. I'm sure it will be 6 more years before I find something else good.

ruth-gehrig
10-29-2011, 08:21 PM
:confused:Why do I never see this kind of stuff at estate sales/garage sales??:confused: The only thing I ever find baseball related is 1988 cards!:mad:

iwantitiwinit
10-31-2011, 08:47 AM
Multi year ball using what appears to be the same pen seems a bit suspicous. Large auction house not knowing what they had also a bit strange.

Dalkiel
10-31-2011, 06:44 PM
Multi year ball using what appears to be the same pen seems a bit suspicous. Large auction house not knowing what they had also a bit strange.

If you say so. The JSA guy liked it when he authenticated it. It's from the multi-year 1931. I never said "large" auction house. I said "upscale." In other words, they don't sell boxes of Avon and old bald tires. That said, they don't sell a lot of 1930's signed baseballs either. However, please carry on with your conspiracy theory.

IronHorse2130
10-31-2011, 08:33 PM
I know nothing about autographs but in "iwantitiwinit"'s defense, you did say the following in an earlier post -

"After some research it seems to be mostly a multi-year Senators ball with some extras. Johnson stopped playing in 1927 and Joe Cronin started with Washington in 1928, yet they're both present. And, of course, Jimmie Foxx never played for the Senators."

So you yourself referred to the first ball as a multi-year ball. Not sure why you are upset that he referred to it as such.

GrayGhost
10-31-2011, 08:42 PM
First, how do you find cool stuff like that in Estate sales? WOW> Second, how do you know thats Michael's sig? that would be when he was VERY young, and couldn't write yet and just print?

Dalkiel
10-31-2011, 10:04 PM
First, how do you find cool stuff like that in Estate sales? WOW> Second, how do you know thats Michael's sig? that would be when he was VERY young, and couldn't write yet and just print?

I was kidding about the "Michael Jackson signature." I'm sure it was written by some kid at a much later date. Perhaps a kid with the same name or perhaps a kid who loved Thriller. Who knows?

iwantitiwinit
11-01-2011, 08:25 AM
Wasn't spouting any conspiracy theory, just pointing out something I thought was interesting from looking at the photos of the ball and I would think an auction house would research items better to extract the most dollars possible. I hope you make 10x your money, not hoping you anything but the best.

Dalkiel
11-01-2011, 10:27 AM
Wasn't spouting any conspiracy theory, just pointing out something I thought was interesting from looking at the photos of the ball and I would think an auction house would research items better to extract the most dollars possible. I hope you make 10x your money, not hoping you anything but the best.

No problem. Thanks. I paid too much to get 10x my money unfortunately. I'd be happy with 4x!

Exhibitman
11-03-2011, 10:19 AM
The original baseball shown also has a Buddy Myer on it.

Charles Solomon "Buddy" Myer (March 16, 1904 – October 31, 1974) was an American second baseman in Major League Baseball from 1925 to 1941. An excellent hitter, he batted .300 or better in eight full seasons, and retired with a career average of .303. He walked more than twice as many times as he struck out. Apart from a brief period with the Boston Red Sox in 1927–28, he spent his entire career with the Washington Senators.