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novakjr
08-21-2011, 09:07 AM
I know according to most lists that Marquard's rookies fall into the year 1908. One of which is a minor league issue. One is the Hall's Studio Giants Cabinet, and the other is the E91B which is designated between the years 1908-10.

Now given the fact that Marquard only played one game in 1908, would it be safe to assume that there was not a E91B of him produced in 1908? Also, would it be unreasonable to guess that the Hall's Studio cabinets maybe were produced over a couple of years, or maybe 1909, rather than 1908? If so, would it be reasonable to treat any 1909 card of Marquard as his Major League rookie card? More specifically, I'm referring to the 150 series t206's...

Robextend
08-21-2011, 09:14 AM
I believe E91B was produced in 1909.

E91A - 1908
E91B - 1909
E91C - 1910

novakjr
08-21-2011, 09:19 AM
I believe E91B was produced in 1909.

E91A - 1908
E91B - 1909
E91C - 1910

Very good. That takes care of the E91...Anyone with any thoughts about the Hall's Studio Cabinet? Or thoughts on whether the 150 series t206's are an acceptable Major League rookie card for him?

DanP
08-21-2011, 10:00 AM
Very good. That takes care of the E91...Anyone with any thoughts about the Hall's Studio Cabinet? Or thoughts on whether the 150 series t206's are an acceptable Major League rookie card for him?

I consider any of the T206's acceptable RC's for Marquard (along with E90-1 and E91-B). Marquard is one of only a few HOF'ers where the T206 is considered a RC (Wheat, Baker and Speaker are the others). Of course, everyone seems to have their own "rules" for RC determination.

I'm not sure about the Hall's Studio Cabinet, but my initial thoughts are that they don't look like "baseball cards", they look like photograph's.

Does anyone even have a Hall's Studio for Marquard? I don't see any graded by PSA or SGC.

Brian Van Horn
08-21-2011, 10:20 AM
I prefer this one from his two poses in the T206 set:

novakjr
08-21-2011, 10:20 AM
Thanks Dan. That helps alot. While compiling my own list of what I consider acceptable rookie cards, I've run into a bit of confusion, as far as what's a card, what's impossible to find, so on and so on, with some of the stuff around that time. Speaker was another that I wasn't sure of. Thanks again.

bcbgcbrcb
08-21-2011, 11:02 AM
I believe that the Hall's Studio card of Marquard must have been produced in 1909 rather than 1908 (assuming that one exists, I have never seen a copy either).

novakjr
08-21-2011, 11:29 AM
I believe that the Hall's Studio card of Marquard must have been produced in 1909 rather than 1908 (assuming that one exists, I have never seen a copy either).

Yeah, I've been going by the oldcardboard list. I think I'm gonna start using the baseballhalloffamerookiecards.com list. It seems a little more up to date. That one actually has both the Hall's and E91 specifically listed as 1909's...