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joeadcock
08-12-2011, 08:29 PM
One of my favorite sets the E107. Love lookin at them. Love to see those from other members. Love them no matter what shape they are in.
My favorite actress when I was in Elementary school(early 1970's). From the Golden Voyage of Sinbad, Caroline Munroe. Bet she would love the E107 also.
joeadcock
08-12-2011, 08:30 PM
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What does Caroline Munroe have to do with e107's?
My favorite cards as well.
DanC
joeadcock
08-12-2011, 09:25 PM
Nothing at all.
Admire the set, difficult to assemble and very expensive(even the lower grade cards).
Can members show some of their examples?
Kenny Cole
08-12-2011, 09:26 PM
Van Haltren
ls7plus
08-13-2011, 04:42 AM
Very rare, very expensive, and very worthwhile collecting in any grade!
Great cards, guys.
Best to all,
Larry
rainier2004
08-13-2011, 05:11 AM
Ok, Im new....what are these e107's, how many are in the set and where do I get a Carline Munroe at?
Jacklitsch
08-13-2011, 06:39 AM
I'll play...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g5/jacklitsch1/E107/Powers3.jpg
Rainier,
It's the toughest E card set bar none, heck even tougher than any T card set. Issued in 1903-04, perhaps by more than one company, Breisch-Williams being one.
No one has ever completed it due to very tough team variations.
Findind a picture of the actress would be easier than finding an E107. Maybe that was the comparison intent:)
rainier2004
08-13-2011, 07:14 AM
Thanks Sb1...that plank is amazing!
joeadcock
08-13-2011, 07:23 AM
Scott
Beautiful Plank. To go along with all your other cards.
Sorry, just threw the Munro in for interest. Has to be one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen. As a young kid, couldn't get her off my mind for awhile. Thanks be to GOD, I have grown up.
I agree, tough set. I am glad to have a few. But taken me awhile to get even a few, because of the cost.
terjung
08-13-2011, 07:26 AM
My all time favorite set. Scott, that Plank is outstanding.
I'll start with these two...
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Lajoie%20SGC%2030.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Young%20SGC%2010.jpg
joeadcock
08-13-2011, 07:35 AM
Brian
Really Nice cards
Do you have an example like the one in your avatar?
terjung
08-13-2011, 07:44 AM
Ok, Im new....what are these e107's, how many are in the set and where do I get a Carline Munroe at?
Extremely tough set issued in 1903-1904 that is the first major set of the 20th century. The set is largely attributed to Breisch-Williams caramel company, but may have been issued by more other companies as well. They come with two basis backs - namely "one of a hundred and fifty prominent baseball players" and blank backs. The back indicates that there are 150 players in the set, but only 147 players have been found to date. A handful of players have team variations, which pushes the master set over 150 to somewhere around 161. There is a great article by Brian McQueen in Old Cardboard (Issue #4 - Summer 2005). It is required reading for anyone interested in the set. (Actually, the entire publication is fantastic. Subscribe if you don't already.)
You will note on some of the flips where "Type 1" is denoted. There is a "Type 2" of E107s. This does not refer to the second kind of back, but rather refers to a handful of "cards" that have been found with the same image. About 9 players (perhaps a couple more, I don't recall) have been found that have been classified as "Type 2". They are all hand cut and on thicker stock of paper. It has been hypothesized that they were all cut from an advertising display. No one knows for sure at this point, but they are more scarce than even the Type 1 cards. In general, when people refer to E107s, they are talking about the Type 1 cards.
Some players are tougher than others. I think it can safely be stated that the surviving population of any card is less than 20. A handful of Philadelphia players are the more commonly found and they are probably in the 10-20 range. It is commonly held that many of the cards only have single digit populations (graded + raw). If you are looking for a type card from E107 set, it won't be impossible to find / acquire due to the number of cards in the set; however, if you are looking to add a specific player from the set, the challenge increases dramatically.
terjung
08-13-2011, 07:49 AM
Rainier,
It's the toughest E card set bar none, heck even tougher than any T card set. Issued in 1903-04, perhaps by more than one company, Breisch-Williams being one.
No one has ever completed it due to very tough team variations.
Findind a picture of the actress would be easier than finding an E107. Maybe that was the comparison intent:)
That kind of says it all right there. (...and Scott would know based on his experience with the set. He was a contributor to the Old Cardboard article too.)
rainier2004
08-13-2011, 08:19 AM
Thanks Brian. These cards are amazing and the only 2 on ebay have BINs at 1600 and 2200. Thanks for the background on the set. Itd be nice to see a scan of a back.
terjung
08-13-2011, 08:28 AM
The size of E107 cards also set the standard by which other sets - like T206 -followed. Speaking of which, the E107 set also contains what many consider the rookie card of many big named HOFers (like Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, and Christy Mathewson).
Given the scarcity of the E107 Wagner vs. the T206 Wagner, (the T206 is around 10x more common), it is somewhat surprising that Wagner's rookie card value hasn't mirrored the meteoric rise of the T206.
...and because it is sure to be the source of a debate... Yes, there are earlier images of Wagner on the W600 "street clothes" cabinet and the M101-1 paper issue, but the E107 is pretty much universally agreed to be a "card", the others are open for debate.) Regardless, there are a ton of early cards (some would say rookie cards) of HOFers in the E107 set.
terjung
08-13-2011, 08:31 AM
Thanks Brian. These cards are amazing and the only 2 on ebay have BINs at 1600 and 2200. Thanks for the background on the set. Itd be nice to see a scan of a back.
Here's a front and back showing the 1 of 150 back. Other backs are the same except just without the writing.
BTW, paper loss is quite common on the backs of these very thin, fragile cards since many were pasted into albums.
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20McGraw%20SGC%2010.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/John%20McGraw%20SGC%2010%20back.jpg
pete zouras
08-13-2011, 08:32 AM
<a href="http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/?action=view&current=hickmane107-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a47/zouraspm/hickmane107-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
teetwoohsix
08-13-2011, 10:13 AM
Amazing cards everyone, thanks for posting those !!!
I don't own any of these but the E107's are one of my favorite E cards. I love looking at those !!
Sincerely, Clayton
You guys know more than I do. I picked up this Callahan as he personally owned my 1903 Carl Horner Composite, so I thought it would be cool as my type...He is pictured in the upper right, larger picture on the composite.
http://luckeycards.com/pe107callahan.jpg
http://luckeycards.com/pe107pickering.jpg
bcbgcbrcb
08-13-2011, 10:18 AM
Leon:
Always love to see that giant composite of yours, it's a beauty!
ls7plus
08-13-2011, 12:56 PM
Amazing cards everyone, thanks for posting those !!!
I don't own any of these but the E107's are one of my favorite E cards. I love looking at those !!
Sincerely, Clayton
+1 there. I tell myself, "maybe some day," as to at least some of the hall-of-famers. In any grade, of course.
May the collecting be good, and the treasures obtained prized forever!
Larry
philliesphan
08-13-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/images_items/item_3707.jpg
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2008images/Item_9901_1.jpg
The Flick and Keeler certainly aren't pretty, but they'll have to do!
joeadcock
08-13-2011, 04:01 PM
Dan those 3 certainly would do for me.
Nice cards Dan, I used to own both the Keeler and Lajoie.
The Overpring is normally a bit fuller and clearer, this is a bit weaker than usual. They are much, much tougher than either the blank or 150 back.
Rob D.
08-13-2011, 06:28 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/ineedanap/otherphotos/60a_med.jpg
packs
08-13-2011, 06:56 PM
Great thread.
terjung
08-13-2011, 06:59 PM
Stunning Joss and Flick, Rob and Scott!
terjung
08-13-2011, 07:00 PM
Dan,
Is that Keeler a mislabeled Type 2?
ls7plus
08-13-2011, 07:34 PM
Dan those 3 certainly would do for me.
Darn right, Dan--I'd be delighted to own either or both. You should see my 1947 Tip Top Bread Spahn, Kiner and Berra, if you think those are in rough shape!
Best always,
Larry
ValKehl
08-13-2011, 07:55 PM
Hi Scott - Do you know if anyone has ever completed either of the E270 sets (Red Borders or Tin Tops) or the E271 set? If not, then the E107 set may not be any tougher than these E sets to complete??
Insofar as obtaining an individual example is concerned, IMHO an E222 and an E271 are much tougher to obtain than an E107 (Scott, I realize that you didn't make any assertion re individual examples).
Best, Val
Hi Scott - Do you know if anyone has ever completed either of the E270 sets (Red Borders or Tin Tops) or the E271 set? If not, then the E107 set may not be any tougher than these E sets to complete??
Insofar as obtaining an individual example is concerned, IMHO an E222 and an E271 are much tougher to obtain than an E107 (Scott, I realize that you didn't make any assertion re individual examples).
Best, Val
As far as cataloged E sets I think these might be the most difficult to obtain at least 1 copy of....but the set is much smaller too. And with the Las Angeles team having 2 completely different cards I am not sure there is a full set known.....
http://luckeycards.com/pe221x3secondary.JPG
joeadcock
08-13-2011, 08:40 PM
........................
Vintagecatcher
08-13-2011, 09:07 PM
Marc S.,
Your E107 is misidentified as Ira Thomas when it should be Roy Thomas.
Grading companies frequently make this mistake. Ira only played for the Philadelphia As not the Phillies.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/thomaro01.shtml
Patrick
terjung
08-14-2011, 05:39 AM
A couple more to keep us going...
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Waddell%20SGC%2020.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Collins%20SGC%2030.jpg
barrysloate
08-14-2011, 05:41 AM
Have we ever noted, and forgive me if I've forgotten, that the E107 pose of Chief Zimmer is the same one used for his Just So card?
Dan,
Is that Keeler a mislabeled Type 2?
I'm not sure. I guess it is there is more gray in mine then the Type 1, but it looks like the caption is (was) the same. I would love to cross it over, but SGC said it was to small. I wonder if PSA would encapsulate it?
Does anyone out there have an image of a Type 2 Keeler you can post?
Darn right, Dan--I'd be delighted to own either or both. You should see my 1947 Tip Top Bread Spahn, Kiner and Berra, if you think those are in rough shape!
Best always,
Larry
Thanks guys. I'm guessing that I wouldn't upgrade these cards even if I had the opportunity. I still need a bunch of E107's so I'm hoping there's more out there in this condition!
Bicem
08-14-2011, 07:19 AM
Have we ever noted, and forgive me if I've forgotten, that the E107 pose of Chief Zimmer is the same one used for his Just So card?
interesting, especially since the Young is obviously a different photo. who was the photographer for the Just So cards?
barrysloate
08-14-2011, 07:39 AM
I have no idea who photographed the Just So's. There were many photos taken of Young, so a more current one was used. But the Zimmer photo was already ten years old when it was used on the E107. Maybe that was the only one they had available.
Woops, sorry for derailing the thread above with a few colorful cards. I thought about deleting them but who cares, it's cards. Getting back to the subject I don't really ever see much advertising for Breisch-Williams? Here is a possibly related item.....Plus, and I know we have had this discussion before, I think there is a relation to the Oxford Caramels too....
http://luckeycards.com/poenvelopebreisch1893.jpg
Bicem
08-14-2011, 08:24 AM
Breisch-Williams Co. (e107) and The Williams Caramel Co. (e103) were both located in Oxford, PA. So what happened to Breisch?
It's the toughest E card set bar none, heck even tougher than any T card set.
You may be right, but there are some other extremely tough E sets to complete. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think anybody has completed the E105 Mello-Mint set either. Finding a type is example is not hard because half of the set is available, but the other third to half are nearly impossible with only 1-4 examples known. Tougher ones include Cobb.
JimB
P.S. Everybody is posting amazing cards!!!
gnaz01
08-14-2011, 11:12 AM
You may be right, but there are some other extremely tough E sets to complete. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think anybody has completed the E105 Mello-Mint set either. Finding a type is example is not hard because half of the set is available, but the other third to half are nearly impossible with only 1-4 examples know. Tougher ones include Cobb.
JimB
What about the E125 set? I feel an equally difficult set to complete. :mad:
kkkkandp
08-14-2011, 11:54 AM
My meager contributions...
Bicem
08-14-2011, 11:58 AM
those are nice... fat borders on the Mertes.
terjung
08-14-2011, 12:35 PM
Breisch-Williams Co. (e107) and The Williams Caramel Co. (e103) were both located in Oxford, PA. So what happened to Breisch?
Not sure exactly what happened to Mr. Breisch, but several caramel companies were cannabalizing each other during that timeframe (early 1900s). Pennsylvania seemed to be mecca for caramel. Not only was there a big plant in Oxford with Breisch-Williams - later Williams Caramel, but Mr. Hershey was in Lancaster, PA. He seemed to do ok with his business.
Here's a couple more E107s...
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Ryan%20SGC%20A.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Willis%20SGC%2030.jpg
Anthony S.
08-14-2011, 12:46 PM
What does Caroline Munroe have to do with e107's?
DanC
Well, the first two pictures in the thread are Topsy...
joeadcock
08-14-2011, 05:26 PM
I went on a major hunt of old newspapers, advertising last year via the internet but could find nothing on Breisch Williams. The envelope of Leon is first thing I've seen otherwise.
terjung
08-14-2011, 06:08 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Plank%20SGC%20A.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20McGinnity%20SGC%2010.jpg
Brian, you're killing me! GREAT CARDS!
terjung
08-14-2011, 07:14 PM
Thanks, Dan. I appreciate it. My collection pales in comparison to some others here, but I don't let that bother me. Hobby happiness is finding cards that fit your collection. Some of my cards have about every technical flaw they could have, but I love them all the same.
joeadcock
08-14-2011, 07:19 PM
Brian, you're killing me! GREAT CARDS!
Agreed Dan
Killing me also
terjung
08-14-2011, 07:43 PM
Thanks, Joe.
I'll back off and let others post. I don't want to monopolize your thread. (probably too late!):D
Let's see some more E107s guys!
philliesphan
08-14-2011, 07:55 PM
You may be right, but there are some other extremely tough E sets to complete. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think anybody has completed the E105 Mello-Mint set either. Finding a type is example is not hard because half of the set is available, but the other third to half are nearly impossible with only 1-4 examples known. Tougher ones include Cobb.
JimB
What about E104-III? I don't think anyone even has a complete definition for what comprises a "set" there. Many on the checklist have less than 4 examples known and were otherwise uncatalogued until the 21st century.
yanks4
08-14-2011, 08:01 PM
Just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post fella's........ VERY interesting stuff!
uffda51
08-15-2011, 04:38 PM
http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/20thcenturycandygumcards/websize/E107%20Dineen.JPG
terjung
08-15-2011, 05:06 PM
Love it, Bruce. Any others you wouldn't mind sharing?
terjung
08-15-2011, 05:19 PM
I'm not sure. I guess it is there is more gray in mine then the Type 1, but it looks like the caption is (was) the same. I would love to cross it over, but SGC said it was to small. I wonder if PSA would encapsulate it?
Does anyone out there have an image of a Type 2 Keeler you can post?
Size notwithstanding, I'm inclined to think your example is a Type 2. Not only is the color different and hand cut, the font is different than the Type 1. Note the alignment of the white spot below his vest buttons at the bottom of the portrait. It aligns with the "ld" in "Fielder" on the Type 2s and aligns closer to the "Fi" in "Fielder" on the Type 1. Keeler is one of the 9 players that have been found to have a Type 2.
I still love the card. I just think it is a Type 2 after studying it more.
http://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/13/04/98/39/keeler10.jpg
e107collector
08-15-2011, 05:46 PM
I'm sure there are some board members out there that own some of the big name HOF's from this set. Let see some Wagners, Mathewson's, & Delehanty's?
Tony
terjung
08-15-2011, 05:59 PM
I'm sure there are some board members out there that own some of the big name HOF's from this set. Let see some Wagners, Mathewson's, & Delehanty's?
Tony
I'll get my beater example out of the way before any others post their nicer ones.
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfolderssv/terjung1/e107/websize/E107%20Wagner%20SGC%20A.jpg
joeadcock
08-15-2011, 06:25 PM
Brian
Got some nice beaters.
Bicem
08-15-2011, 09:37 PM
I'm sure there are some board members out there that own some of the big name HOF's from this set. Let see some Wagners, Mathewson's, & Delehanty's?
Tony
Let's see your e107's, with that screen name you must be holding out on us! ;)
e107collector
08-16-2011, 06:06 AM
Let's see your e107's, with that screen name you must be holding out on us! ;)
You would think, right?:) I currently don't own any E107's. When I first registered or the board around 8-9 years ago, I had a few low grade commons, but sold them.
I never updated my screen name though.
Tony
rustywilly
08-16-2011, 01:48 PM
http://rustywilly.com/cards/DavisGeorgeLarge.jpg
Great thread!!!
uffda51
08-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Brian, the Dineen card is my last E107. Used to have Flick, as you know, and Marquard and a couple of other commons.
One of each, type 1 and 2. Note the team text diff. the Keeler with the piece cut off the bottom above is a type 2.
terjung
08-16-2011, 07:02 PM
Beautiful Davis and Delahanty, guys!
e107collector
08-16-2011, 07:21 PM
Scott,
I'm not sure if it's the scan or the angle of the picture, but it appears that the Type 2 on the right, has a more detailed and vivid image of Delahanty, than the Type 1.
Is this characteristic typical of a Type 2?
Tony
About the nicest looking 10 you will find.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7933/1903e107ritchiefront.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/1903e107ritchiefront.jpg/) http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3581/1903e107ritchiereverse.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/1903e107ritchiereverse.jpg/)
terjung
08-18-2011, 04:00 PM
No doubt, Darren! Great example!
bcbgcbrcb
08-18-2011, 04:27 PM
Nice, Darren. About the nicest looking E107 you will find in any grade.......
joeadcock
09-17-2011, 07:58 PM
Has anyone on the board ever soaked an E107? If not, anyone have any idea on how dangerous it might be to damaging the card?
terjung
09-18-2011, 02:04 PM
I never have. I have thought about it, but don't have the guts to do it.
ls7plus
09-19-2011, 03:06 PM
All of you guys are such a fountain of knowledge that I'm surprised to find that no one has posted in this thread the fact that the Huggins & Scott auction, closing 9/28 and 9/29/11 features six E107's: (1) Chief Bender, PSA
1; (2) Rube Waddell, PSA 1.5; (3) Socks Seybold, PSA 1.5; (4) Danny Murphy, PSA 1.5; (5) Lew Drill, PSA 1.5; and (6) Harry Davis, PSA 1; a veritable treasure trove of these toughies! Check out www.hugginsandscott.com. Hope some of you fellow net54'ers that need these cards get them.
Happy collecting,
Larry
PS: Oh, and by the way, to everyone who has posted scans of their cards, they are wonderful, regardless of their technical grade. When you have cards that are that tough to acquire, they are true treasures in any grade (I drool over the HOF'ers)!
vintagerookies51
11-07-2011, 09:19 PM
Just posted this in the pick ups thread, bu thought I'd ad it to the E107 thread too....
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac244/vintagerookies51/KGrHqIOKiwE5ekLmeUeBOfnSVE27Q60_3.jpg
Andy Baran
11-08-2011, 06:12 PM
....But these were my absolute favorite cards that I owned:
joeadcock
11-08-2011, 07:11 PM
2 very nice cards Andy
h2oya311
11-08-2011, 08:49 PM
I know Brian just picked up a nice McGinnity (per the pick-ups thread), but I have to show my example b/c it's the only E107 remaining in my collection.
Brian was able to pry away my only other E107 a few months ago...:cool:
vintagerookies51
11-08-2011, 09:15 PM
Very cool card Derek!
sycks22
11-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen one grade over a 60/5? I've seen the Young a couple times.
e107collector
11-09-2011, 12:11 PM
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen one grade over a 60/5? I've seen the Young a couple times.
I'm not sure if one is graded over a "5", but according to the SGC pop reports, there is an E107 Wagner that graded a 50/ "4". Does anyone have a picture of that card? I saw the SGC 40 example in the Mastro auction back in 2007, and that was amazing, but just wondering what the SGC 50 example looks like.
Tony
vintagerookies51
11-09-2011, 01:47 PM
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen one grade over a 60/5? I've seen the Young a couple times.
There is a George Davis graded 5.5 by SGC
barrysloate
11-09-2011, 02:27 PM
Isn't there a Plank graded PSA 8?
vintagerookies51
11-09-2011, 02:36 PM
Isn't there a Plank graded PSA 8?
The second post in this old net54 thread seems to say so, but I can't find a scan http://www.net54baseball.com/archive/index.php/t-78360.html
and I don't know what auction this was in, but it sold for quite a sum. (5th one down) http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/2956
rainier2004
11-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Am I missing something? That looks like a t206 plank that sold? Here's mine, ....anyone recognize these?
sycks22
11-09-2011, 02:46 PM
There is a George Davis graded 5.5 by SGC
Thanks for the info Cole. It's amazing that nothing better that Ex+ has survived from the set.
TT40391
11-09-2011, 03:56 PM
Great cards guys. It is a wonderful set. Out of my league but a great looking set.
Tony
e107collector
11-09-2011, 04:36 PM
Isn't there a Plank graded PSA 8?
Barry,
You are correct. There is a PSA 8 Plank out there. Mastro auctioned it off in 2000 or so, but it wasn't graded at the time of auction. I think it ended at around $30-$35K. There is no photo of it in their auction archives.
Tony
barrysloate
11-09-2011, 05:00 PM
Tony- I think a board member and occasional poster once owned it.
terjung
11-09-2011, 05:07 PM
There is a PSA 8 Plank. PSA actually lists it as an 8Q. I don't recall the reason for the quailifiation... perhaps a mark.
Anyway, it resides in a fantastic, seldom seen collection.
shammus
11-09-2011, 06:20 PM
Several years ago I made a run at a Type 2 set and got pretty close. The Tenney always eluded me though. I finally picked this one up recently thanks to a board member. Just a brutally tough card to try to find all the way around and a nice one to cross off the very top of my wantlist, even if it is several years removed from me seriously collecting this set. Not sure I'll go after other e107s (would like to) but it's nice having this one around in my collection as a type!
49294
terjung
11-09-2011, 06:25 PM
Really tough card. Congrats!
joeadcock
11-09-2011, 07:23 PM
Nice card Brian
thestump08
11-10-2011, 12:12 PM
That Plank card is great. Are the E107's available very often or is it a hard set to come by? I don't have much knowledge on the set.
vintagerookies51
11-10-2011, 01:37 PM
That Plank card is great. Are the E107's available very often or is it a hard set to come by? I don't have much knowledge on the set.
It's a pretty rare set. Even poor-condition commons can sell for about $1,000. I think most of the HOFers have less than 20 known to exist, but I'm not sure. Someone else will be able to provide more information
rainier2004
11-10-2011, 02:27 PM
That Plank card is great. Are the E107's available very often or is it a hard set to come by? I don't have much knowledge on the set.
There's a pretty decent answer on pg 2 of this thread.....
g_vezina_c55
06-08-2012, 08:53 AM
amazing info in this thread ! and amazing card everybody !
philliesphan
06-08-2012, 10:15 AM
in summary (I think)
No complete sets are known to exist, although I've heard there's one collector who is one card short.
There's a famous trade from a few years ago that involved a fairly extensive E107 collection.
The Legendary E107 offering this summer at the National is widely anticipated. Thoughts are that a private sale is the preferred outcome and, given the rarity of the set, is a distinct possibility. Many of us collectors would love the opportunity to bid on specific cards from the set, though!
From a personal collecting standpoint, I have a nice team set run from E107, short only one card [a very tough one -- I've never even seen a scan]. Took me about 8 years to put that team set together.
g_vezina_c55
06-08-2012, 10:19 AM
in summary (I think)
No complete sets are known to exist, although I've heard there's one collector who is one card short.
There's a famous trade from a few years ago that involved a fairly extensive E107 collection.
The Legendary E107 offering this summer at the National is widely anticipated. Thoughts are that a private sale is the preferred outcome and, given the rarity of the set, is a distinct possibility. Many of us collectors would love the opportunity to bid on specific cards from the set, though!
From a personal collecting standpoint, I have a nice team set run from E107, short only one card [a very tough one -- I've never even seen a scan]. Took me about 8 years to put that team set together.
interesting the fact that 1 collector are at 1 card short to complete the set... I am curious about how much a complete set of E107 can bring at auction, in low grade....IF 1 day a complete set is discovered and put at auction.
Cool thread bump.
I've never really liked or appreciated black and white cards, but with E107 I could make an exception (if I could ever afford a HOFer, which is what I mainly collect). I was keeping an eye on the recent Keeler that sold in the recent legendary auction. (http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=129610&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=0&sortby=0&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=107&seo=1903-E107-Breisch-Williams-Type-1-Willie-Keeler---SGC-20-FR-1.5) Quite the beautiful card....
http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotImages/78/129610a-copy_lg.jpeg
terjung
06-08-2012, 10:35 AM
Keeler keeps taunting me, said the underbidder.
sycks22
06-08-2012, 10:57 AM
Harry said he wanted in.
Peter W Thomas
06-08-2012, 11:28 AM
Barry is right I did once own that card. I bought it at the St. Louis national in The 90's. Had it graded at the show as I recall. It was in a odd ball bunch of raw cards and I bought it for its sticker price of $10.00. For about 20 years I had worked with Cynthia Plank in Watertown Mass. She was a relative of Eddie, granddaughter I think - thanks Cynthia where ever you are these days - Maine I believe. Should have held on to it, but got rid of it when I realized how impossible the set was and I am basically a set collector.