Need help - is this T205 unusual?

[iwantitiwinit]

Hey guys I recently bought a lot of t205's from a board member and included in the lot was this unusual front of Rube Oldring. I am fairly new to t205's is this the usual Oldring front? Is it a printers variation? Is it simply some printing error? Has anyone seen this before? Does it have any increased value? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.41978

[Ladder7]

Rare "Over .08 BA" version?

[old-baseball]

If you're talking about how the name is "framed" with the gold border that's just the design as compared to some of the other American League player's cards. There are several others that are the same in the set as shown below. I've also included my Oldring for comparison.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3884
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3883
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3882

[iwantitiwinit]

Yes I was simply talking about how the name was framed. Thanks for the info Kevin. Any way someone can post all the t205 variations and errors or know of a place I can find that listing?

[asoriano]

Any way someone can post all the t205 variations and errors or know of a place I can find that listing?

Edward Barger (Full "B" on Cap)
Edward Barger (Partial "B" on Cap)
Roger Bresnahan (Mouth Closed)
Roger Bresnahan (Mouth Open)
Hal Chase (Both Ears Show, Frame Extends Past Shoulders)
Hal Chase (Both Ears Show, Frame Ends at Shoulders)
Hal Chase (Only Left Ear Shows)
Eddie Collins (Mouth Closed)
Eddie Collins (Mouth Open)
Otis Crandall ("t" Crossed in Name)
Otis Crandall ("t" Uncrossed in Name)
Patrick Dougherty (White Sock)
Patrick Dougherty (Red Sock)
Russell Ford (Black Cap)
Russell Ford (White Cap)
George Graham (Rustlers)
George Graham (Cubs)
Dolly Gray (No Stats on Back)
Dolly Gray (Stats on Back)
Robert Harmon (Both Ears Show)
Robert Harmon (Only Left Ear Shows)
Richard Hoblitzell (Cin. after 1908 Stats)
Richard Hoblitzell (Name Incorrect, No Cin. after 1908)
Richard Hoblitzell (Name Correct, No Cin. after 1908)
Richard Hoblitzell (No Stats on Back)
Arlie Latham (A. Latham on Back)
Arlie Latham (W.A. Latham on Back)
Lefty Leifield (A. Leifield on Front)
Lefty Leifield (A.P. Leifield on Front)
Christy Mathewson (37-11 Record)
Christy Mathewson (37-1 Record)
Patrick Moran (No Stray Line of Type)
Patrick Moran (Stray Line of Type)
David Shean (Rustlers)
David Shean (Cubs)
Bobby Wallace (With Cap)
Bobby Wallace (No Cap, One Line of 1910 Stats)
Bobby Wallace (Two Lines of 1910 Stats)
Irvin Wilhelm ("suffe ed" in 18th Line of Bio)
Irvin Wilhelm ("suffered" in 18th Line of Bio)
George Wiltse (Both Ears Show)
George Wiltse (Only Right Ear Shows)

The five examples that appear in bold are what I would consider the toughest variations to find. Hope this helps!

[Matt]

Turner - great list! There are a few more that have been found as well if I recall (e.g. there is a variation with the text on the back of the Miller (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=127161)), do you have the additional list? If you don't want to, that's understood; I just didn't want people thinking the list above was comprehensive.

[asoriano]

Hi Matt - I don't have the additional list. As you probably know, the cards mentioned above comprise the current list of variations recognized by PSA and SGC. Hope all is well!

Best,

Turner Engle

[iwantitiwinit]

Fantastic guys thanks very much!!!

[marcdelpercio]

I would add to the list:

Doc White - back text on the word "Doc" is found without quotation marks on Polar Bear backs.

John Miller - back text states "John B. Miller" on some cards and "John D. Miller" on others. Both variations appear with multiple backs, and with the same back as well.

No idea why these are not fully recognized as variations yet. There are some who disagree that the White card is a variation as it only appears with the Polar Bear back. I feel that it IS a variation for reasons discussed in other threads. I can see no conceivable argument against recognizing the Miller however.