1924 W-UNC vs W511

[glchen]

I recently picked up the following strip card that the seller deemed 1924 W-UNC. However, after viewing the following thread Link (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=80325), are 1924 (or 1926) W-UNC exactly the same was 1926 W511? For example, if you submitted the card to SGC or PSA, could you basically pick W-UNC or W511 on the submission form and the TPG would slab it as the one you picked because there was no way to distinguish between the two? When I looked at the 2010 Standard Catalog, both W-UNC and W511 are still listed and it didn't say that the cards were the same.

Here is another thread on W511 that I read: Link (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81020)

[glchen]

On a related question, was the card on the previous post "Blue Duotone," which the seller specified it as? It looks more like purple to me. I know that there are Blue Duotone and Maroon variations, but then there are different color tints such as orange, b/w, etc. Is the criteria basically if the card is not solid maroon, then it is blue duotone?

I have the following W511, but it is a light blue shade.

[rhettyeakley]

Gary, you are correct they are one in the same. I think what happened is that they were originally listed in SCD as W-UNC but someone pointed out that they are from a set of predominately actors/actresses/aviators/etc. called W511 and it was corrected to list as W511 in the SCD but they failed to get rid of the original W-UNC entry. Think of it as a cut and paste (with corrected name) where they forgot to erase the original "cut" source, hence the double entry.
-Rhett

[Exhibitman]

All varieties of W511. They are found with white stock and blue, black or purple ink, and on red stock with black ink. Also a variety of numbers and unnumbered versions. Also some variations in cropping.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneouscards/websize/W511%20Dempsey%20red.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/large/Wunc%20Firpo.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/large/W511%20Firpo%207%20BW.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/entertainmentmemorabiliaforsale/large/W511%20Firpo%2092%20purple.jpg

[fkw]

Years ago I mentioned that the W-Unc card of Ruth really belonged to the 1926 W511, but Im not sure If I was the one who started the correction on the info in the catalogs or not, but it was about the same time.

The cards are found in 5 colors, blue, purple, B&W, red, and orange.... but I havent seen the Ruth in orange yet.

http://centuryoldcards.com/images/w511cook.jpg http://centuryoldcards.com/images/w511blue.jpg http://centuryoldcards.com/images/w511orange.jpg


Ruth is found with #1, #52, #71 and no number
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/1926ruth.jpeg http://centuryoldcards.com/images/w511ruth71.jpg


more info on the W511 set... http://www.moviecard.com/zamerican/stripcards/w511.html

[Leon]

pardon the other cards....

[glchen]

Thanks, appreciate the replies.