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Jaybird
05-19-2011, 08:53 PM
I was perusing the newspapers (thanks Tim) and found this article mentioning "Hans Wagner" Cigars. See last paragraph. Thought it was interesting so I thought I would post.

The Ty Cobb tobacco remark seems to be a joke especially since I've seen another article announcing his tobacco brand in March of 1910 so this would be a bit premature for it to mean Ty Cobb Tobacco.


Gainesville Daily Sun October 17, 1909

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/jasonleemiller/WagnerCobb_10_17_09.jpg

bobbvc
05-20-2011, 10:54 AM
I think in this case the Wagner and Cobb "cigar brands" are being used more as a metaphor than actually referring to a specific brand named cigar.

Jaybird
05-20-2011, 11:10 AM
I agree with you on the cobb being metaphor. Cobb (meaning pipe) goose-egg (meaning loser-zero).

But Hans Wagner did have a brand of cigars (see link) and to my thinking, the quotes around his name feels more like a brand reference than a metaphor. JMO

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2005/66.html

smokelessjoe
05-20-2011, 12:06 PM
Hi Jason,

If you are delving into the "Ty Cobb Tobacco" debate... Check out the two links below. You may find them helpful, also includes more ads and letters.


http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1231739025/Continuing+the+Ty+Cobb-Ty+Cobb+back+debate


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=122677

atx840
05-22-2011, 12:33 AM
97 was a good year for these cards

It's estimated as few as half a dozen copies have survived. Until Lifson came up with five more, that is. Lifson said that a non-collector in Georgia found the cards 10 years ago when going through some of his late grandfather's papers. He didn't realize their value until recently.

http://www.sfgate.com:80/cgi-bin/examiner/article.cgi?year=1997&month=03&day=01&article=SPORTS14253.dtl