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Leon
04-09-2011, 07:38 AM
There has always been 6 cards reported to be in the E221 Bishop Team card set. There are, however, only 5 cards known in it with Sacramento being the card never seen. The other cards are Los Angeles, Oakland, Portland, San Francisco and Vernon. The cards measure approximately 2 3/4" x 10" and are made on thin paper stock much like a few other pre-war issues ie... T213-1, T216 Virginia Extra etc...The dimensions and paper thin stock, along with limited distribution probably account for their rarity in the hobby today. Print on several of the photos imply all six teams were issued. According to Lipset's Encyclopedia he surmises it could have been to fool collectors and a sixth card may not exist. He also goes onto say a west coast collector has a sheet of the 5 known teams, again casting doubt on the sixth card. I have a theory that the sixth card might have been the Los Angeles team card variation, which is uniquely known (to me and everyone I know that collects them) in the hobby. It has 13 players instead of the regular 20 players on the card, as shown. This purple variation was obtained on ebay some 7-8 yrs ago and was acquired from an early 1960's type collection. The collection also heralded an E222, T206 Uzit (raw but since graded EX), E98 Old Put and hundreds of other cards. Back when they were acquired I remember spending literally 4-5 hours on the phone with the seller (a few different times), who owned an antique shop where these were brought in. It was quite exciting going through the collection with him as he turned the pages and uncovered more rare type cards as he went.

I realize there are thousands of members here, and more than that whom read the board, so if anyone has seen another of the 13 player LA cards I would appreciate an email or PM, or posting here, with details. It was an interesting find to say the least. best regards....

Jaybird
04-09-2011, 11:14 AM
Those cards are incredible. I keep thinking that since I'm in Los Angeles, I'm just going to stumble upon one of these some day. Wishful thinking!

asphaltman
04-09-2011, 02:27 PM
Just curious if anyone from here picked up the low grade example in Lew Lipset's auction?

edjs
02-17-2022, 11:29 AM
This is a newspaper page I have. I bet the Sacramento card looks like this,

Leon
02-20-2022, 06:04 PM
This is a newspaper page I have. I bet the Sacramento card looks like this,

It would be nice to find one.

And apparently 11 yrs ago I only had 3. I now have 4 and if anyone has any for sale I am, as Ross Perot said and it adequately fit, I am all ears!

https://luckeycards.com/pe221master4x.jpg

Vintagecatcher
02-20-2022, 08:57 PM
Leon,

Nice to see the E221s back in your collection.

I was surprised that you let them go in your first collection.

Are the three teams you had before the same cards?

Congrats,

Patrick

Leon
02-22-2022, 11:46 AM
Leon,

Nice to see the E221s back in your collection.

I was surprised that you let them go in your first collection.

Are the three teams you had before the same cards?

Congrats,

Patrick

When I sold my first collection I sold everything except my Horner Composite and my hobby periodicals.....Yes, these were all 4 in this thread that got sold with my first collection. They are back home :)...btw, the green one I got from Mike Berkus (rip)...

Always looking for more . (says the greedy E221 collector)

.

mrreality68
02-22-2022, 11:53 AM
When I sold my first collection I sold everything except my Horner Composite and my hobby periodicals.....Yes, these were all 4 in this thread that got sold with my first collection. They are back home :)...btw, the green one I got from Mike Berkus (rip)...

Always looking for more . (says the greedy E221 collector)

.

Congrats and pretty cool that they came back home after all those years