Does anyone own high-grade prewar cards? [Archive]

B O'Brien

01-30-2011, 09:19 AM

I don't have anything above SGC 50 now, but my two favs have been the PSA 6.5 Factory 42 Chase Blue that Dan C now has and the Factory 42 Evers that Craig has now. The Evers was a stunner, centering kept it from being and 8 I think.

Dust off the Evers Craig, let's see it again!
Bob

calvindog

01-30-2011, 09:23 AM

quinnsryche

01-30-2011, 09:26 AM

My highest SGC and my highest PSA.

E93

01-30-2011, 09:31 AM

Most of my collection is more mid-grade, but I do have a high grade E93 set. Some examples:
JimB
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9792/e93cobbpsa8300dpicut.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/e93cobbpsa8300dpicut.jpg/)http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7668/e93leachcut.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/e93leachcut.jpg/)http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4093/e93delahantycut.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/e93delahantycut.jpg/)http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/135/e93wagnerpsa8cut11.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/e93wagnerpsa8cut11.jpg/)http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6887/e93covaleskicut.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/e93covaleskicut.jpg/)

Davalillo

01-30-2011, 10:11 AM

I have a fair number of prewar 9s and 10s--particularly from the play ball sets but also goudeys, diamond stars, sporting life and T206s. DEo not know how to post on here but I have posted some 9s and 10s on my blog.

http://musicandsportscard.blogspot.com

Mikehealer

01-30-2011, 10:37 AM

JimB
I am always amazed at the condition of your e93's, those are amazing!! I always enjoy seeing them.

E93

01-30-2011, 10:45 AM

JimB
I am always amazed at the condition of your e93's, those are amazing!! I always enjoy seeing them.

Thanks Mike, I put the set together over about 20 years with constant upgrades. Over the years I have probably upgraded each individual card three or four times. Most of what is there now came from the three important finds of E93s that occurred in the past twenty years.
JimB

leftygrove10

01-30-2011, 10:55 AM

Here is a 1928 R315 Lefty Grove. I believe it is an SGC 84. I also have 1934-36 Batter-Up (PSA 7) and 1941 Double Play (PSA 8) Lefty Grove cards, but no scans are provided here.

http://www.bandkgreen.net/lefty_grove/vintagelefty_files/1928_r315.jpg

mintacular

01-30-2011, 10:58 AM

I would sell my soul for that Cobb card...Yes that's right, I am offering my soul right here on Net54 for that Cobb card :)

Jim VB

01-30-2011, 11:05 AM

I would sell my soul for that Cobb card...Yes that's right, I am offering my soul right here on Net54 for that Cobb card :)

Which Cobb? You may be talking to a lawyer. He's got no need for a soul! Besides, that kind of transaction belongs on the BST!

(Kidding Jeff. I'm kidding.)

scooter729

01-30-2011, 11:09 AM

Not a traditional card, but it's as pre-war as it gets, and is as high-grade as anything I have...
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f81/scooter0729/lawsonpsa10.jpg

benchod

01-30-2011, 11:25 AM

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32318&stc=1&d=1296411869

E93

01-30-2011, 11:46 AM

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32318&stc=1&d=1296411869

Craig,
That is nice!
JimB

Kawika

01-30-2011, 12:16 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/websize/_N172%20Kelly%20Portrait.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/websize/KBats%20Geo%20Wood.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/websize/M116%20Matty.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/websize/914CJ%20WaJo.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/websize/11ZN%20Halla.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/bbhofthefirstclass/websize/DMcD115.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/1933goudey/websize/qu33%20Goudey%20Ruth%202.jpg

DixieBaseball

01-30-2011, 12:27 PM

Odds n Ends :

MikeGarcia

01-30-2011, 12:45 PM

I followed that thread from day one with 'bated breath but I don't recall ever seeing any in the subsequent postings ? Any one able to snag any of those ?

Phillies*phan

01-30-2011, 12:50 PM

3 cards awaiting they're trip to PSA. I'm crazy excited about the Brown.

oldjudge

01-30-2011, 12:52 PM

Nice Old Judge Jeff. I knew you'de get the bug.

uffda51

01-30-2011, 01:33 PM

So Jeremy, you picked up an N172 Werrick. Now I don't feel so bad for beating you to the one I found at the National! Congratulations!

http://photos.imageevent.com/uffda51/t207heaven/websize/T207Chance.jpg

Here's my highest graded T207.

RGold

01-30-2011, 02:02 PM

Joe DiMagio [sic]

E93

01-30-2011, 02:44 PM

A few N172s:
JimB

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7530/n172charlescomiskey.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/n172charlescomiskey.jpg/)http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4274/n172honestjohngaffneysg.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/n172honestjohngaffneysg.jpg/)http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7756/n172mcrobinson.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/n172mcrobinson.jpg/)

DixieBaseball

01-30-2011, 03:03 PM

"So Jeremy, you picked up an N172 Werrick. Now I don't feel so bad for beating you to the one I found at the National! Congratulations!"

Thanks Bruce! I think mine is just like yours best I recall (St. Paul Version), but your card has that cool reverse side! So, now I need the Louisville version :D

DeanH3

01-30-2011, 03:04 PM

Wow..Those are awesome David!! I need to get all my scans evenly sized like yours as well. Actually, I need to get good scanner. :D:D

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/DHack3/BB%20Cards/M116WAG.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/DHack3/BB%20Cards/scan0005.jpg http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m52/DHack3/BB%20Cards/T206TyCobbBatOnSGC55.jpg

3-2-count

01-30-2011, 04:06 PM

Probably not considered high grade by many here, but high grade enough for my liking.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/sgc70keelerfrontfull.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/sgc70marquardfrontfull.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/sgc70jenningsfrontfull.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/9-18collinsportfront.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/walshportfront-2.jpg

HRBAKER

01-30-2011, 04:37 PM

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/e102matty.jpghttp://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/e96Nap.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s172/hrbaker/BST/33DLSimmons.jpg

Mikehealer

01-30-2011, 04:38 PM

Tony those are some good looking portraits. These may not meet the high grade level for some, but they do for me.

E93

01-30-2011, 04:43 PM

Jeff,
The Matty and Lajoie E cards are awesome!
JimB

jerrys

01-30-2011, 04:47 PM

32334

32335

32336

3-2-count

01-30-2011, 04:51 PM

Likewise Mike. Great portraits you have there my friend........

Robextend

01-30-2011, 05:19 PM

Not too much high grade right now for me yet, but here is the best of some of my sets:

http://photos.imageevent.com/vanslykefan/prewar1/e91americancaramelcollection1/e91c/websize/E91C%20Hooper.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/vanslykefan/prewar1/1933goudey/websize/33%20Goudey%20MacFayden.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/vanslykefan/prewar1/1936goudey/websize/36%20Goudey%20Cochrane.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/vanslykefan/prewar1/1936goudey/websize/1936%20Goudey%20Klein.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/vanslykefan/prewar1/nationalchiclefinepenr313/websize/R313%20Mack.jpg

GoldenAge50s

01-30-2011, 05:27 PM

I picked these up, along w/ 15 other OJ's, at a yard sale in the mid-'80's. They all got nice grades, but if I recall correctly these were the only 2 8's. I wish I'd have kept scans of all of them, but I didn't---These were the last 2 I hung on to before selling.

Rob D.

01-30-2011, 05:31 PM

Has anyone ever attempted to put together a collection of type cards (including the toughest ones), with a goal of acquiring the highest-graded examples of each? That might be a fun little project. You wouldn't necessarily place a premium on Hall of Famers, just the highest-graded cards extant.

Leon

01-30-2011, 05:36 PM

Shown a few times before but these are raw and I would guess would grade nicely....(not sure about the envelope they came in, probably not technically high grade :))

Bicem

01-30-2011, 05:36 PM

cdn_collector

01-30-2011, 05:42 PM

David, that N690 is a Dandy!

Regards,

Richard.

familytoad

01-30-2011, 06:02 PM

No one that I've ever heard of. Great idea though Rob!

Like a clown car, you never know how many are inside.
As the clown group that has the penultimate edge on us all would surely say " We wish you the best whilst you fail ...great idea indeed!":p

steve B

01-30-2011, 06:51 PM

Here's the best I've got right now

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=123&pictureid=2594

I had some high hopes for this one but a nearly invisible bend brought it down a bit.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=123&pictureid=2593

Steve B

Kawika

01-30-2011, 06:58 PM

HRBAKER

01-30-2011, 07:00 PM

Kawika

01-30-2011, 07:01 PM

Kawika

01-30-2011, 07:15 PM

David, that N690 is a Dandy!
Regards,
Richard.
Thanks, Richard. KBats are scary addictive; difficult to believe their crisp images were taken in ballyards 125 years ago. George Wood, as you probably are aware, is a Canajun, a Maritimer no less. One of the fellows on the Board who hails from PEI posted recently that Wood was inducted into the Canadian BBHoF this year.

cdn_collector

01-31-2011, 05:40 AM

Thanks, Richard. KBats are scary addictive; difficult to believe their crisp images were taken in ballyards 125 years ago. George Wood, as you probably are aware, is a Canajun, a Maritimer no less. One of the fellows on the Board who hails from PEI posted recently that Wood was inducted into the Canadian BBHoF this year.

David -- I don't doubt what you say. I've never seen a KBat in person, but am always blown away by the quality of the images in scans I've seen.

Regards,

Richard.

NB. And yes, I'm aware of Wood being a fellow Canuck and now a member of the, uh, prestigious Canadian BBHoF.

T206Collector

01-31-2011, 07:23 AM

Here's the highest graded signed T206 card that I've ever seen. It is originally from the Jeff Morey collection.

<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iVXWEz_OSRpmQm3cPgM96jiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_Ys7fw31kTDs/S7FELIol4BI/AAAAAAAAHw8/aBsl2fDeJeo/s800/Doyle%20Portrait%20Auto%20SGC%2080.jpg" height="800" width="502" /></a>

edhans

01-31-2011, 03:36 PM

http://www.monkberry.com/~edhans/e97mey.jpg

http://www.monkberry.com/~edhans/t213kell.jpg

Kawika

01-31-2011, 03:55 PM

Speaking of Chief Meyers, this is my highest grade card and only 8. Watch out, Crandall, I am catching up. Seems that M116s show up in better condition than other cards from that era, presumably because of the way they were distributed.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/sportscardsetc/baseball/holygrailcards/websize/M116%20Chief%20Meyers.jpg

Tim Kindler

01-31-2011, 04:32 PM

1 of 1 with only 1 graded higher. Of course like most E98s the only Bender higher comes from Scott's Gang Green Set.... a beautiful set!

It is the highest graded E98 that I own. Personally, I'm not that big on high condition cards myself. They are 100 years old, and I don't mind them looking that way:)

old-baseball

01-31-2011, 06:28 PM

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3142http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3143
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3144http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3145
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=3146

jerrys

01-31-2011, 07:33 PM

David - your M116 Chief Meyers - Legendary Auction. My consignment!

<HR SIZE="4"><HR SIZE="4">

32399

32400

frohme

01-31-2011, 07:55 PM

Partners for Bruce's Chance (in grade, not name)

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/frohme/T207/9c6d7aa2.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/frohme/T207/e3b374a1.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x51/frohme/T207/4821a3c8.jpg

Kenny Cole

01-31-2011, 08:08 PM

Some of mine

sox1903wschamp

01-31-2011, 08:29 PM

I will play the NM T207 game :)

the-illini

01-31-2011, 08:31 PM

one of my best, grade wise

tjb1952tjb

02-01-2011, 02:44 AM

The R314 1936 Doerr Goudey Premium is the highest graded currently:

D. Broughman

02-01-2011, 07:03 AM

This is a stick-up:eek: PM for details where to send cards:D:D:D:D:D

vwtdi

02-01-2011, 08:25 AM

heres an OJ I think has super nice photo quality.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f92/vwtdi55/temp_n172/n172_rusie330.jpg

benchod

02-01-2011, 11:22 AM

Wow Keith,
That's one of the nicest ojs I have seen and by far the nicest Rusie

E93

02-01-2011, 11:49 AM

Wow Keith,
That's one of the nicest ojs I have seen and by far the nicest Rusie

+1

JimB

E93

02-01-2011, 11:57 AM

Wow Keith,
That's one of the nicest ojs I have seen and by far the nicest Rusie

+1

JimB

E93

02-01-2011, 11:58 AM

P.S. Jerry's N172 Kid Nichols does not suck either!

Leon

02-01-2011, 12:38 PM

This one is only EX graded but the photo is gem mint. It will most likely be in the Brockelman and Luckey Auction set to open at the end of this week....regards

vwtdi

02-01-2011, 01:03 PM

Thanks everyone. I bought the Rusie raw on ebay a while back. It didn't grade all that high due to a surface wrinkle on the back but the image is probably one of the two nicest I've seen on an N172. Some great looking OJs as well as others in this thread all, enjoyed looking at everything. I'm not ready to sell my soul yet, but I'd offer my eye teeth and maybe even a kidney for a couple. Jim's E93s and that N172 Commy, David's K-Bat, Dean's little group, Fred's beauties, Jerry's Sunday and Nichols, Leon's K-Bat, several Cobbs...I need more disposable organs.

barrysloate

02-01-2011, 01:06 PM

Leon

02-01-2011, 01:20 PM

So the N690 Philadelphia may be changing hands. Good show!

Now I have to ask you something about the grade. My understanding of the grade EX+ is that a card should have wear equal to an excellent card, but because of some other positive factor, would be bumped up a half grade. Wouldn't the gem quality of that photo be enough to bump it to the EX+ 70 level? How could it not receive that grade? How much better of an excellent card could possibly exist?

Hi Barry
Thanks for the kind words about this extraordinary card. As you know I have loved that card but things have come up that I need to do, and with my focus on 20th century, it makes the most sense to let it go. As for the grade, we have discussed it many times. The graders just don't count photo quality on our gems. You and a few other "very expert" 19th century collectors have told me they have never seen a better photo on a 19th century card. I am not sure how one could be any better, but I am biased. Maybe this one deserves a 70 but, if I were the one bidding, I wouldn't be as concerned about the number, as I would be about the photo quality. I hope it goes to someone who understands exactly how nice it is. It is one of the true gems in our hobby. regards

barrysloate

02-01-2011, 02:05 PM

I agree that the eye appeal will sell itself. Regarding the numerical grade, you might hypothetically want to ask a grader just what this card would need to get the 70. I understand it won't grade EX-MT or NR MT because of the corner wear (which is in fact minimal), but at the Excellent level is it possible to be any nicer?

E93

02-01-2011, 02:16 PM

Leon,
That is a phenomenal card! I have no doubt that it will bring some heavy hitters to the auction block, as it should.

I also agree, as has been much discussed, that photo quality should be a much greater consideration in grading 19th century sepia cards like this. My guess on the technical grade is that the minor stain on the back kept it out of the higher grade, though if one only looks at the front it is a no-brainer.
JimB

P.S. That card not only has an incredible image, but it is also centered and has none of the common tilt cuts that can be a bit distracting.

Michael Peich

02-01-2011, 08:40 PM

I can't compete with Leon or Keith O'Leary, but I like these. Enjoy.

Cheers, Mike

Jay Wolt

02-01-2011, 09:04 PM

http://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/31381258.jpg

margoaepi

02-01-2011, 09:35 PM

The Jennings I've always wanted.

Cat

02-01-2011, 10:57 PM

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3157/1917bostonstoreheilmann.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/1917bostonstoreheilmann.jpg/) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/420/1887n172ansonfront.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/1887n172ansonfront.jpg/) http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3288/1916m10159sislerfront.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/1916m10159sislerfront.jpg/)

Joe_G.

02-02-2011, 06:54 PM

So many beautiful OJs, I just had to post another. That Rusie is sick! These cards must have been a delight to pull fresh from a cigarette pack.

wrapperguy

02-03-2011, 11:01 PM

We rarely grade anything as 99% of our cards are in plastic sheets, but here is one we had to grade. This is not a set we are collecting, so not sure what we will do with it. I believe this is the highest SGC graded one. Sorry the scan is not better.

martin neal

02-07-2011, 08:40 AM

The Chase used to be in a Psa 8 holder, but looks so much better in a SGC holder!

MikeGarcia

02-23-2011, 07:56 AM

It took a while to find where I'd hidden this......
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/2042957/aview/1936_PEN_FRISCH_SOLO_NEW.JPG

JasonL

02-23-2011, 09:01 PM

who has thought of this...
check out Jeff's card again...if they ever do a film about Hal Chase, is there any way that they can use any actor other than Matt Damon to play the lead???!!!! Scary resemblance to his Cracker Jack card!

MW1

02-23-2011, 09:20 PM

http://www.bmwcards.net/09mathewson86.jpg

IronHorse2130

02-23-2011, 09:26 PM

That Mathewson is beautiful! I've always wanted one of those.

Big Six

02-23-2011, 09:38 PM

triwak

02-24-2011, 12:08 PM

a few:

WillowGrove

02-25-2011, 10:30 PM

Tony A's t206's are graded high enough for me too.

Thanks for an excuse for me to post this card that I am lucky enough to own...

makersmarkambassador

02-26-2011, 01:06 AM

You guys make me sick!!! :eek: :)

ls7plus

02-27-2011, 12:30 AM

Can't match some of these guys, but do have PSA 7's of the 1938 Goudey #250 DiMaggio, #277 Greenberg and #288 Feller. Also, a PSA 6 of the 1929 R315 Foxx yellow/gold stock variation. Unfortunalely, I don't have a scanner other than a document scanner.

Larry