Photo Identification Help Thread

[rhettyeakley]

I always think these are fun and educational when we throw up some photos we aren't having luck identifying, sometimes a fresh set of eyes can add some light to the mix.

#1) Who is depicted on this E270 card that was supposed to be Bobby Byrne? It doesn't look anything like Byrne.
http://starsofthediamond.com/tintopbyrne.jpg

#2) I have the following (2) cabinets from the 1900 Norwich Team (Connecticut League) that I am having a hard time identifying. Here is the roster lineup, several former/future Major leaguers on there...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/team.cgi?id=27246

Here are the photos...
http://starsofthediamond.com/1900norwichunknown.jpg http://starsofthediamond.com/1900norwichunknown2.jpg

Any help is appreciated, and feel free to post your items you are trying to identify,
-Rhett

[rhettyeakley]

Also, I already believe I have Identified the following three as Danny Murphy (long career with Philadelphia A's after leaving Norwich), Frank Corridon (t206 subject), and Joe Harrington (1890's Boston NL player). Obviously then the top two guys aren't any of these three subjects.

Murphy, Corridon, Harrington
http://starsofthediamond.com/1900norwichmurphy.jpg http://starsofthediamond.com/1900norwichcorridon.jpg http://starsofthediamond.com/1900norwichharrington.jpg

[DixieBaseball]

Here's my contribution to the unknown : Circa 1911-1921 Nashville Vol - Southern League ... ? ? ? Edited - Chick Knaupp Circa 1921 - Took over for Hub Perdue as Mgr of the Vols.

[bmarlowe1]

Rhett - the first one you posted on the left is Joe Wall. I agree with your other ID's. Really nice photos. The E270 is not Byrne.

[rhettyeakley]

Thanks Mark, definitely him. One more to go!:)

The E270 "Byrne" card has been driving me nuts! Who is this guy?

-Rhett

[DixieBaseball]

Thanks to Rhys and Rhett for helping me date the RPPC, and from there I consulted pictures in Spalding and Reach guides and came up with possibly the right person for the RPPC. I believe this RPPC dates from 1920-21 and is a photo of Chick Knaupp (William Lewis) who played for Nashville from 1920-22. Chick took over managing the Nashville club for Hub Perdue in 1921. Here is a team photo from a Spalding 1923 guide and Chick is #11. I believe it strongly resembles the RPPC, but will need confirmation from our Ear, Nose, and Throat Specialist! The uni's are from 1922 in the Spalding guide, and I noticed that the RPPC did not have the "N" on the sleeve, so perhaps the RPPC dates a year or two before 1922, which fits the time frame for Chick.... I am still researching for further confirmation, but with the RPPC time frame Rhys provided (18-21), it made the hunt a lot easier. Thanks again guys ! Any opinions are welcome -

[Oldtix]

Okkonen's book cites this Brooklyn uniform style as being used 1918-19 and 1922-24. Who is this guy? Thanks for any help!

http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac351/oldtix/Baseball%20Photos/DODGERPLAYER.jpghttp://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac351/oldtix/Baseball%20Photos/DODGERPLAYER-Copy.jpg

[rhettyeakley]

I just wanted to make an update as I've been able to positively identify the player on the E270 Tin Top incorrectly identified as "Byrne" for Pittsburgh.

There was a thread recently where there was a link to the VintageBall.com website about postcards and the same image was again misidentified as Bobby Byrne, while with St. Louis NL on his 1908-09 Rose Co. postcard.

http://vintageball.com/Rose.html

This really changed my search as I had anticpating the image being from much later, 1912-13, when the Tin Tops were being produced--obviously seeing the image in a 1908-09 set indicated an earlier photograph and then it didn't take too long to realize it was actually an image of <b>James Joseph Byrnes </b> who only played in the majors w/ the 1906 Philadelphia Athletics. I'm sure when I initially started looking I had eliminated him as his Major League career was so much earlier than I was thinking. The funny part is that that exact same image was used to produce another card of Byrnes, while with the 1910 Tacoma NWL--his 1910 T212-2 Obak...

http://starsofthediamond.com/tintopbyrne.jpg http://starsofthediamond.com/t212byrnes.jpg

So, much like Colgan's did with their E254 Ryan goof, in chich they used a 1903 Carl Horner image of Jimmy Ryan on their 1910 card attempting to depict Jack "Gulfport" Ryan. Here they used a 1906 Horner image of Byrnes w/ Phila AL in their attempt to depict Byrne on a 1912-13 set.

Anyways, it feels good to put this one to bed.

-Rhett

[MooseWithFleas]

Those initial cabinets are incredibly clear for 1900. Beautiful shots!

[bmarlowe1]

Sorry Jeremy - I overlooked your question and just noticed it today. It's not possible to say for sure, but there is a good chance your guy is Knaupp. It may be worth looking for a newspaper photo of him. A good half-tone may help confrim it.

[Runscott]

I would love to know who these guys are, but probably just some town team. The guy in the background looks like Walter Johnson, but the photo is much older:

http://runscott.homestead.com/files/cabcatch.JPG

[joeadcock]

Any one identify this person? Was in with a group of pre 1900 baseball.

[DixieBaseball]

Any one identify this person? Was in with a group of pre 1900 baseball.

Joe - if he was wearing a "Cap" I might think it is a young... No, maybe not. Probably Anson's brother. :)