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T206Collector
09-29-2010, 10:15 AM
What did PSA do wrong here?

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-TOLSTOI-CIGARETTES-BILLY-PAYNE-CHICAGO-BLACK-SOX-/120619700868?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1c157e9284

barrysloate
09-29-2010, 10:17 AM
It's Fred Payne.

T206Collector
09-29-2010, 10:48 AM
Wow -- 2 minutes. Nicely done.

pgellis
09-29-2010, 11:29 AM
Yeah SGC had the same problem too. There are at least 2 SGC cards of him on eBay right now that say "Billy Payne" as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Fred-Payne-SGC-50-4-1238627-025-/140458703741?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20b3fdbb7d

vintagetoppsguy
09-29-2010, 12:38 PM
Help a newbie out. I thought is was Billy Payne. According to at least 2 resources that I use, they refer to him as Billy Payne.

T206museum.com and T206.org

T206Collector
09-29-2010, 01:00 PM
Frederick Thomas Payne's biography:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/paynefr01.shtml

shaunsteig
10-02-2010, 04:24 PM
I think there may be some broad confusion re the first name, cause I went back to some of my resources that I frequently use and found no consensus:

Fred: T206 Collection (the new book), PSA and SGC set registries (ie the composition list for the T206 Basic)
Billy: T206.org, T206museum.com

Anyone know the source for this misunderstanding?

Thanks,
--S