View Full Version : ebay police: Raw original t206 Wagner?
hunterdutchess
08-29-2010, 02:27 PM
Raw Honus Wagner listed as a original on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/fair-condition-t206-Honus-Wagner-Baseball-card-1-100-/290468713272?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43a148d338
Your thoughts?
grandslamcardscria
08-29-2010, 02:40 PM
Raw Honus Wagner listed as a original on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/fair-condition-t206-Honus-Wagner-Baseball-card-1-100-/290468713272?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43a148d338
Your thoughts?
The flip says its not authentic or at least questionable at best... Stay far away would be the best advice.
The flip says its not authentic or at least questionable at best... Stay far away would be the best advice.
Yeah, I'm not sure how he's selling it as authentic when he has a PSA label that says "? AUTHTCT" on it, but I didn't even notice the question mark at first so I almost thought "AUTHTCT" was PSA talk for authentic. It just looks like the typical mangled reprint that someone is trying to pass off as real. Considering the guy has a feedback of 7, the picture is lousy, there's no picture of the back and even PSA thinks it's questionable I'd stay away too.
ctownboy
08-29-2010, 04:10 PM
Look, if the guy had an authentic T206 Honus Wagner graded by PSA, I hardly think he would be selling it on eBay and if he was, I don't think the high bid would be only $69 dollars.
Now if this were Heinie Wagner.....
David
Section103
08-29-2010, 04:14 PM
If Im not mistaken, the "? Authenticity" is PSA's polite way of saying "Im not saying this is a fake, but it IS a fake."
uffda51
08-29-2010, 05:17 PM
Nice photo. Clears up any possible questions - not.
joeadcock
08-29-2010, 07:39 PM
I understood that designation ?authentic by PSA means it is not real.
At least the 20th time Ive seen someone use the PSA flip to sell a fake.
Scammers are going to keep on doing this until PSA pulls their heads out.... and fixes the damn abbreviation, with a big "NOT" instead of "?".
Many a newbie have gotten confused on it.
buymycards
08-30-2010, 07:24 AM
I reported the item to ebay, but the listing is still active. I contacted the seller, and he sent me a rambling message with no punctuation and numerous spelling errors that included that included threats.
He did convince me that this card is real, and I plan on bidding at least $75 on this authentic Wagner. :)
vintagetoppsguy
08-30-2010, 10:47 AM
At least the 20th time Ive seen someone use the PSA flip to sell a fake.
I am not trying to excuse the seller in any way, but some of the responsibility has to fall back on PSA. The card is either real or fake - period. PSA shouldn't list "? AUTHENTICITY" on their flips. If it is a fake, then the flip should say such. If PSA can't tell the difference, they shouldn't be grading cards. The "? AUTHENTICITY" crap leaves room for hope in the mind of the poor sap who buys it.
teetwoohsix
08-30-2010, 11:16 AM
I'm no expert on PSA flips but this guy is really going out of his way to cover up the top of the flip where it says "PSA" with a piece of newspaper or something...........run FAST!!!
Clayton
White Borders
08-30-2010, 11:36 AM
$16.95 for shipping is outrageous! :D
mybuddyinc
08-30-2010, 12:50 PM
The Penny Saver as a back drop knida' says it all ;)
It's also amusing that his description is just a paragraph from Wikipedia about other Wagner cards that have sold and has nothing to do with whatever that card is that he's trying to sell.
I reported the item to ebay, but the listing is still active. I contacted the seller, and he sent me a rambling message with no punctuation and numerous spelling errors that included that included threats.
He did convince me that this card is real, and I plan on bidding at least $75 on this authentic Wagner. :)
Why is it that everyone that thinks they are selling real Wagners on eBay communicates via rambling, threatening messages with no punctuation and multiple spelling errors? :confused:
brickyardkennedy
08-30-2010, 05:47 PM
"Why is it that everyone that thinks they are selling real Wagners on eBay communicates via rambling, threatening messages with no punctuation and multiple spelling errors?"
Totally inadequate educational system, in American prisons.
Totally inadequate educational system, in American prisons.
More than likely. God forbid people in prison be denied internet access.
Idiottax
08-30-2010, 08:49 PM
I'm most impressed that 80% of a card qualifies as deserving of a fair grade. I wonder how much less Honus would need to be part of the card to get it called a poor.
Gary Dunaier
09-08-2010, 10:20 PM
Look, if the guy had an authentic T206 Honus Wagner graded by PSA, I hardly think he would be selling it on eBay and if he was, I don't think the high bid would be only $69 dollars.
It sold for $1,704.00. 44 bids among 12 bidders.
It sold for $1,704.00. 44 bids among 12 bidders.
Amazing. I cant believe that. I sent him a message just for kicks myself.
He was not a nice fella and didnt have any answers to my questions!
GrayGhost
09-09-2010, 04:20 AM
Seriously, this HAS to be a joke. Why would people bid on this crap? I love the "question" down below and his completely irrelevant answer to anything. Boy, its almost as much fun to search the bay for crooked sellers/idiot buyers, as it is the Roach's auctions. :(:eek:
bh3443
09-09-2010, 04:53 AM
What ever happened to the "questionable Wagner that won't go away?"
The one that got all the media coverage and the 2 owners refused to grade it and all kinds of drama with the story! Just wondering if anyone can enlighten me on the subject. Thanks, Bill
judsonhamlin
09-09-2010, 06:54 AM
Since the "winning" bidder actually had a feedback number higher than 1, it wasn't "ibidonfakes" or someone trying to submarine the scammer. Too bad - that leaves shills and fools as the class of bidders.