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jboosted92
06-20-2010, 09:38 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Stephen-Strasburg-Red-Autograph-1-1-AUTO-/200485213281?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eadd99461#ht_500wt_1154

WOW-sers

Ladder7
06-20-2010, 09:43 AM
I'd buy the holder!

teetwoohsix
06-20-2010, 09:54 AM
$18,000.00,,,,,,,,,,,,,?? :confused:

What am I missing here? I know he's a wicked pitcher, but what's up with the inflated prices?

Clayton

jboosted92
06-20-2010, 09:57 AM
$18,000.00,,,,,,,,,,,,,?? :confused:

What am I missing here? I know he's a wicked pitcher, but what's up with the inflated prices?

Clayton

its just new, and people love "new"....just like a new set of shoes, new style gear.....people are dumb

funny thing is, he could go on to win ROY, 5 cy youngs...etc...and i still be this card wont go above 5-7 grand in 10 years

donmuth
06-20-2010, 10:00 AM
What would you buy? Right now the bid is $18k and I can think of a ton of vintage stuff that I've always wanted and would be able to get if I had $18k to blow. What vintage cards or memorabilia would you spend your $18k on? Just curious.

I might...
-- Fill in a bunch of holes in my T206 set including some HOF'ers and rare backs
-- Pick up some 1900-1930's HOF'er cards and/or autographs
-- Start an Old Judge subset
-- Add to my T3 set (currently consisting of a single card :) )

Those are probably too vanilla for some of you advanced collectors. So, let's hear what you would get?

teetwoohsix
06-20-2010, 10:01 AM
Very true, I just find it amazing that a players card could go for so much with hardly any history behind him. We'll see what the future brings,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Clayton

Leon
06-20-2010, 10:04 AM
To me it's just another gamble at that price. Hey, we do it all of the time with pre-war. That is just a shiny new card they are doing it with.

For 18k there are thousands of pre-war cards I could buy. Heck the uniquely known 1915 Thorpe I picked up was only half that cost. :eek:

It's fun to watch this new stuff though...

teetwoohsix
06-20-2010, 10:11 AM
If I had $18,000.00 to spend on cards I would spend it all on T206's. I would buy a Magie error,each Cobb, and pick up any HOFers that I don't have yet :D

Clayton

Matthew H
06-20-2010, 10:33 AM
I looked at the completed listings for his orange refractor, I saw a couple go for around 3k, then about a week later they started ending around 4,800. If I was the 3k buyer I'd be selling already.

(although I don't have the guts to spend 3k on a 2010 baseball card)

Pup6913
06-20-2010, 10:43 AM
A Hobby No Stats in Grade 4-5. Or about 25% the rest of my T205 set that I need in grade 4's and higher with a few rare backs included.

FUBAR
06-20-2010, 10:53 AM
id probably buy a Harley, rather then cards.... and a really nice tv.

WillBBC
06-20-2010, 11:30 AM
Hell with half that money I could buy damn near every card I've ever wanted and have money left to spare.

Good for the sellers, making out like crazy. I was in an antique store yesterday that had busted a bunch of boxes of 2010 Bowman. They had a handful of base Chrome Strasburgs with a huge sticker on them, 'NO DISCOUNT, $65.'

I'm in the DC area so the hype around here is insane but c'mon!

uffda51
06-20-2010, 04:06 PM
66 bids so far. I was on the fence but with free shipping?!? I'm in.

jboosted92
06-20-2010, 04:51 PM
66 bids so far. I was on the fence but with free shipping?!? I'm in.

Uffda51 --- your old judge card looks like Dan Patrick ( sorry if thats been said )

tbob
06-20-2010, 07:53 PM
$26,000 now. P.T. Barnum must be rolling in his grave laughing.

Matthew H
06-20-2010, 09:52 PM
That guy is going to have a down payment on a house when its all said and done.

FUBAR
06-20-2010, 10:10 PM
crazy, for his $100 investment, he is probably going to end up with 40k+

Bilko G
06-20-2010, 11:31 PM
heres a story and a picture of the man who bought the Strasburg Superfractor for $16K last week

http://i48.tinypic.com/28bs1nb.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5290998

mets41
06-20-2010, 11:32 PM
I heard his step-father is Joe Charboneau.

Matthew H
06-20-2010, 11:55 PM
He should sell it :D

ElCabron
06-21-2010, 12:02 AM
It's just as silly to me that anyone would spend $18,000 on T206s. And it's silly to some other collectors what I spend my money on.

Everyone's always saying how "real" collectors buy what they like. Well what if that's what this guy likes? It's not what I like or what almost anyone who reads this board would like. But if the high bidder likes it, good for him.

I voice my opinion on how silly it is by not bidding on it.

-Ryan

quinnsryche
06-21-2010, 05:09 AM
It makes no difference what you "like" and although you can spend your money as you wish, a purchase like this will always be percived as ridiculous by 99.999% of the population. No new card has EVER held it's value (see: Clemens, Gooden, Strawberry, Valenzuela, Prior, Wood, Canseco, McGwire etc.). Even HOF'ers like Boggs, Gwynn, Puckett and the like can be had for practically nothing these days. It's all HYPE. The guy who bought the Strasburg might as well sew it into his suit because he'll be buried with it. Worthless crap IMO.

Matthew H
06-21-2010, 08:42 AM
It makes no difference what you "like" and although you can spend your money as you wish, a purchase like this will always be percived as ridiculous by 99.999% of the population. No new card has EVER held it's value (see: Clemens, Gooden, Strawberry, Valenzuela, Prior, Wood, Canseco, McGwire etc.). Even HOF'ers like Boggs, Gwynn, Puckett and the like can be had for practically nothing these days. It's all HYPE. The guy who bought the Strasburg might as well sew it into his suit because he'll be buried with it. Worthless crap IMO.

Albert Pujols, Ichiro, A-Rod, Jeter

Some have held... Just sayin'

Leon
06-21-2010, 08:45 AM
I voice my opinion on how silly it is by not bidding on it.

-Ryan

and posting it on Net54baseball.com .......:)

To reiterate....I agree with you Ryan....It's this guy's money and he can do what he wants with it. Not a lot different than what we do, except there is more of a liklihood our pre-war items will hold more value than the card he bought. (imo)

T206Collector
06-21-2010, 08:56 AM
Not a lot different than what we do, except there is more of a liklihood our pre-war items will hold more value than the card he bought. (imo)

There is risk and reward with everything, of course, as with baseball cards. That $16,000 Super Refractor purchase looks pretty sweet now, as it is probably now worth at least $10,000 more than the purchaser paid a couple of weeks ago. The trick is to sell before it comes down to earth, which will inevitably happen.

"Holding value" is time and issue relative.

barrysloate
06-21-2010, 09:05 AM
That's exactly right. The purchaser of the Refractor card probably has a golden opportunity right now to make a big profit due to Strasburg's incredible start and media exposure. But if he holds it too long it will inevitably go down in value. The novelty of it is bound to wear off. Of course, he may not care and just prefer to keep it.

Jim VB
06-21-2010, 09:14 AM
The novelty of it is bound to wear off.



What???!!! Are you saying that you think Strasburg may actually LOSE a game at some point in his career?

What a doubter you are. I foresee 512 straight wins!

T206Collector
06-21-2010, 09:28 AM
One of my colleagues heard I collected baseball cards and brought in from home two of his favorites. 1 was a 1966 Topps Mantle in G-VG condition. The other was a 1991/92 Donruss Elites Cal Ripken Certified Auto card. Guess which one is worth more? The Ripken by twice as much. When I told him this, he was dumbfounded. I tried to explain that the Mantle could be worth many hundreds or more if it were in better condition. But I have to agree with him that on some levels, the price disparity -- condition notwithstanding -- is a bit ridiculous.

tbob
06-21-2010, 09:45 AM
I think it is wonderful that there are collectors out there willing to pay exorbitant and even idiotic prices for brand new shiney cards. More power to them, at least they won't be bidding against me for pre-war stuff. Let them use their disposable income on bling.

Matt
06-21-2010, 09:50 AM
What a doubter you are. I foresee 512 straight wins!

In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?

Jim VB
06-21-2010, 09:58 AM
In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?

I have no idea, but no one in my memory has had this amount of publicity BEFORE his first major league appearance. Maybe not since Brien Taylor or even David Clyde (and look how well those worked out.)

My favorite part is the way the media has approached the Nats "bringing him along slowly" just because he spent 2 months in the minors. That is a joke. He was the best pitcher on their staff since the first day of spring training. They kept him in the minors until after June 1 so that they would have an extra year before he can become a free agent. They weren't "bringing him along slowly." They were trading 2 months now for an extra year of lower pay 6-7 years from now!

WillBBC
06-21-2010, 10:17 AM
I have no idea, but no one in my memory has had this amount of publicity BEFORE his first major league appearance. Maybe not since Brien Taylor or even David Clyde (and look how well those worked out.)

My favorite part is the way the media has approached the Nats "bringing him along slowly" just because he spent 2 months in the minors. That is a joke. He was the best pitcher on their staff since the first day of spring training. They kept him in the minors until after June 1 so that they would have an extra year before he can become a free agent. They weren't "bringing him along slowly." They were trading 2 months now for an extra year of lower pay 6-7 years from now!

Agreed, 100%. I wonder if the union will fight this when the CBA expires. Could be really interesting/annoying.

barrysloate
06-21-2010, 10:18 AM
That's exactly why they kept him down, as a money saving move.

There's another rookie who is going gangbusters but not getting as much publicity- Carlos Santana. I never saw a rookie batting third in a major league line up right out of the minors. And last time I looked he was hitting .393 with power.

Jay Wolt
06-21-2010, 10:31 AM
In all honesty, even if he pulls off 512 straight wins, I don't see the card retaining it's value. Is there a card of Pujols that was worth over $10k when he started that is still worth that?

Curious! Did Puljols have any 1 of 1 rookie cards in his day, if so what do they go for?
I think its great that a card can generate this kind of publicity & this kind of pricetag.
Not my cup of tea at all, but more power to the winning bidder, its his money.

D. Bergin
06-21-2010, 10:50 AM
Anybody else notice the Jason Heyword Chrome card go for over 6K a couple weeks ago or so.

I also saw a Strasburg 1/1 Card from the same set............called a Red Parallel or something, sell for about 4.8K a week or two ago.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-STRASBURG-2010-Bowman-RED-Parallel-RC-1-1-/320541761126?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4aa1c71e66


Why the disparity with the chrome superfractor thingy. I mean, a 1/1 is a 1/1............right? :confused:

It really is madness I think.

ElCabron
06-21-2010, 10:58 AM
Are there ANY examples of these types of cards (shiny, new, manufactured scarcity) that have gotten more valuable? I've been curious about this. Going back a decade or so, can anyone give any examples? It seems to me that if someone speculates on a prospect and nails it, they should get a big payday for it, but I'm pretty sure that's not at all how it works. Are there any stories of it working that way?

-Ryan

T206Collector
06-21-2010, 04:02 PM
I once witnessed a guy write a check for $1,000 for a lot of 100 Bret Saberhagen rookies, after he won his 2nd Cy Young award.

uffda51
06-21-2010, 04:37 PM
I was hanging out in a card shop when Fernandomania was just cranking up and his card was going for about $5. Some blowhard walked into the shop and insisted on paying $25 for one.

FUBAR
06-21-2010, 04:44 PM
he just wanted the 5 times the value version.... a fool and their money are soon parted!

ctownboy
06-21-2010, 05:17 PM
If I were the guy who bought the Strasburg card for $16,000 dollars, I would buy a one way ticket to Washington D.C. and take the card to a car dealership and trade the card, straight up, for a $25,000 dollar car and then drive back home.

Why? Because I am pretty sure the car dealer could turn around and sell the card for a profit and the guy from Michigan will get more value and utility out of the car, over the next seven to 10 years, than he is going to get out of the Strasburg card.


David

Pup6913
06-21-2010, 05:30 PM
I was hanging out in a card shop when Fernandomania was just cranking up and his card was going for about $5. Some blowhard walked into the shop and insisted on paying $25 for one.

He was probably using the SMR for pricing:D

Bilko G
06-22-2010, 02:17 AM
If I were the guy who bought the Strasburg card for $16,000 dollars, I would buy a one way ticket to Washington D.C. and take the card to a car dealership and trade the card, straight up, for a $25,000 dollar car and then drive back home.

Why? Because I am pretty sure the car dealer could turn around and sell the card for a profit and the guy from Michigan will get more value and utility out of the car, over the next seven to 10 years, than he is going to get out of the Strasburg card.


David

Well the guy from Michigan, who bought the Strasburg superfractor for $16K is going for the old fliparoo. He has the super up for sale now and its already over $13, 000 on the first day:eek::eek:

Wonder what type of profit he makes?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1-/150458901752?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item23080ca4f8

yawie99
06-22-2010, 04:56 AM
It makes no difference what you "like" and although you can spend your money as you wish, a purchase like this will always be percived as ridiculous by 99.999% of the population. No new card has EVER held it's value (see: Clemens, Gooden, Strawberry, Valenzuela, Prior, Wood, Canseco, McGwire etc.). Even HOF'ers like Boggs, Gwynn, Puckett and the like can be had for practically nothing these days. It's all HYPE. The guy who bought the Strasburg might as well sew it into his suit because he'll be buried with it. Worthless crap IMO.

I'm guessing 99.84 percent of the population sees what we do as ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I think new cards are a poor investment unless you have impeccable timing, but the value of Strasburg cards could, in theory at least, be positively impacted by his on-field performance. Ty Cobb, what have you done for me lately?

jboosted92
06-22-2010, 08:56 AM
THIS IS HILARIOUS

http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Topps-Ron-Guidry-RARE-BLUE-BORDER-1-1-STRASBURG-/230487053915?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35aa19565b#ht_1251wt_912




I'm guessing 99.84 percent of the population sees what we do as ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I think new cards are a poor investment unless you have impeccable timing, but the value of Strasburg cards could, in theory at least, be positively impacted by his on-field performance. Ty Cobb, what have you done for me lately?

GrayGhost
06-22-2010, 09:06 AM
hahahahhahahaa

53Browns
06-22-2010, 09:08 AM
Wish I had 10k in the cookie jar, that Guidry would look SWEET in my collection!

GrayGhost
06-22-2010, 09:12 AM
Hopefully the first guy will pay his taxes on the gain. Capital gain tax rate for a collectible is 28 pct max, depending on his other income.

jb217676
06-22-2010, 09:26 AM
THIS IS HILARIOUS

http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Topps-Ron-Guidry-RARE-BLUE-BORDER-1-1-STRASBURG-/230487053915?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35aa19565b#ht_1251wt_912

Very funny. Make sure to read the questions and answers the seller posted with this listing!:D

FUBAR
06-22-2010, 09:53 AM
that's good stuff... Pabst is the only way i roll! Least someone has a sense of humor!

D. Bergin
06-22-2010, 09:57 AM
THIS IS HILARIOUS

http://cgi.ebay.com/1988-Topps-Ron-Guidry-RARE-BLUE-BORDER-1-1-STRASBURG-/230487053915?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35aa19565b#ht_1251wt_912



Ha!

That is great. :D

D. Bergin
06-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Hopefully the first guy will pay his taxes on the gain. Capital gain tax rate for a collectible is 28 pct max, depending on his other income.


What if he re-invests the difference in Ricky Jordan Rookies and declares it a business expense?

Leon
06-22-2010, 10:20 AM
What if he re-invests the difference in Ricky Jordan Rookies and declares it a business expense?

That listing is great. You have to love a collector with a sense of humor.

On the business of re-investing....I am no tax lawyer but the 2nd investment would have to be liquidated to know if there is a gain or a loss on it. Simply buying an investment is not an expense. The expense (loss) comes when you sell for less than you paid. regards

2dueces
06-22-2010, 10:23 AM
$12K with the touring seat, windshield and a little chrome update. I'd trailer it to Colorado with the rest of the money and spend a month in the mountains and still have money left over. I'd still rather have my Harley over a 2010 BB card.
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m80/2dueces/harley019.jpg

FUBAR
06-22-2010, 02:50 PM
the card is at 38k+ with 6 days left, crazy if this keeps up, the guy will have a house and a harley!

2dueces
06-22-2010, 09:19 PM
Jim, We both could buy Ultra Glides with $38K and tour the country. Nah, I want the piece of cardboard. At least the guy on it is still alive. :)

FUBAR
06-22-2010, 10:33 PM
this could get wacky.... but imagine if it hits 100k..... what does that do to our vintage prices.

im thinking 50k is about where it will end, but you just never know

FUBAR
06-22-2010, 10:34 PM
im too cheap to even spend 38 dollars on a non 1 of 1 Strasburg

Smokey Joe
06-23-2010, 05:17 AM
Now that's just ridiculous to get $100,000...as you can see some people just screwed up his auction with bids from 0 feedback bidders.


http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Stephen-Strasburg-Red-Autograph-1-1-AUTO-/200485213281?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eadd99461#ht_500wt_1154

53Browns
06-23-2010, 05:46 AM
This is probably some 14 year old kid that got the pull of a lifetime!

Kotton King
06-23-2010, 06:10 AM
Now that's just ridiculous to get $100,000...as you can see some people just screwed up his auction with bids from 0 feedback bidders.


http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Stephen-Strasburg-Red-Autograph-1-1-AUTO-/200485213281?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eadd99461#ht_500wt_1154


I'm guessing the 0 feedback bidder is shilling for the seller. He had one back at $40,000 too. I could be wrong, but I just don't see this being a legit auction any more. It will end at some crazy price, and the winner won't pay it.

birdman42
06-23-2010, 07:22 AM
I'm guessing the 0 feedback bidder is shilling for the seller. He had one back at $40,000 too. I could be wrong, but I just don't see this being a legit auction any more. It will end at some crazy price, and the winner won't pay it.

If there weren't nine different bidders over the $50,000 level, I might agree with you. If it's a shill, it's a mighty sophisticated one, and includes a bidder with a 1400 feedback and another with 8600.

Bill

FUBAR
06-23-2010, 09:37 AM
I was thinking the same thing Bill.

I was tongue in cheek yesterday when i posted that it my go for 100k thinking no way in reality.. now what 150k 200k?


this auction is absolutely heinous or is that Honus!

Wite3
06-23-2010, 10:10 AM
You can look at it a different way...a $100,000 Strausburg 1/1 can buy you 2,000,000 1981 Joe Charboneaus!!

Joshua

barrysloate
06-23-2010, 10:11 AM
I sure would hate to be the winning bidder on this one.:(

MikeS
06-23-2010, 10:39 AM
Would anybody here like to buy my 1/1 Mark Prior and Ben McDonald refractors? What a joke.....hasn't proved anything yet and is one Tommy john surgery away from that card becoming the worst investment ever. At least Wilson Alverez threw a no-hitter in his first MLB game....but I think his card has gone down over the years to the equivelent of an Enron stock. Good luck to the winner......dumbass

Robextend
06-23-2010, 10:45 AM
I thought Alvarez' no hitter was in his 2nd MLB start?

Anyway...Brien Taylor is still my fav prospect that became a suspect.

MikeS
06-23-2010, 10:48 AM
Rob-

You're correct on that one with regards to Alverez.......totally dropped his worth down a few thousand more.

fkw
06-23-2010, 10:52 AM
The winner of the supershinny one a couple weeks ago has also relisted his card and made it so it will end within 90 minutes of the red signed thingy.

Riding Coat Tails.

IMO ....He will be the only one to make $$ on these besides the 2 who pulled them from packs.


5+ days left......

Red signed one: now over $100K with many high feedback bidders near top. w/4244 watchers.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Stephen-Strasburg-Red-Autograph-1-1-AUTO_W0QQitemZ200485213281

Shinny one: now over $18K but reserve not met. w/1351 watchers
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1_W0QQitemZ150458901752

barrysloate
06-23-2010, 10:53 AM
How much is the McGwire ball that McFarlane paid $3 million for worth today?

D. Bergin
06-23-2010, 11:01 AM
I see they're not sifting out the crank bidders like the seller of the last Strasburg card was doing.

This card will never get paid for and we'll have to do this all over again.

Boccabella
06-23-2010, 11:12 AM
Barry,

No doubt the McGwire ball itself was a bad investment, but McFarlane turned the publicity over his purchase into a good relationship with MLB, which led to his current empire of action figures. I'm sure he's made the money back a few times over. Not to say that'll happen with this card, but sometimes the attention is worth what looks like a dumb investment.

birdman42
06-23-2010, 11:19 AM
I was at the Alvarez no-hitter, in 1989. That was during one of the O's brief spasms of not sucking over the last 25 years. Quite the surprise that day.

Alvarez did manage to hang around for a lot of years--but I wouldn't give a nickel for one of his cards.

Bill

Matthew H
06-23-2010, 11:30 AM
When Sidney Crosby RCs first hit ebay, I saw a 1/1 shiny with no auto sell for over 40'000. Since then Hockey cards have been pulling nice coin. I don't collect them but have been watching them and the market seems strong.

I wonder if this will do anything for Baseball cards? I gotta say I am envious of the guy that pulled this card out of a pack.

jboosted92
06-23-2010, 12:42 PM
When Sidney Crosby RCs first hit ebay, I saw a 1/1 shiny with no auto sell for over 40'000. Since then Hockey cards have been pulling nice coin. I don't collect them but have been watching them and the market seems strong.

I wonder if this will do anything for Baseball cards? I gotta say I am envious of the guy that pulled this card out of a pack.


http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Bowman-Stephen-Strasburg-Red-Autograph-1-1-AUTO-/200485213281?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eadd99461#ht_500wt_1154

108K???

e107collector
06-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Is it being shilled? Any thoughts?

I am starting to think so.

Tony

tbob
06-23-2010, 05:02 PM
Unfriggingbelievable.
He is about to lose his first game today although he pitched well. (Against the mighty Royals).
Didn't Rube Marquard win 17 or 18 games in a row his rookie season? How about Mark Fidyrich pitching in the All-Star game his rookie year?
These bidders are absolutely insane. Let's hope they stay in the shiney card market. Personally I think this Starsburg card will have absolutely no effect on the pre-war cards.

hunterdutchess
06-23-2010, 05:07 PM
Is it being shilled? Any thoughts?

I am starting to think so.

Tony

I myself do not think that it is being shilled. If he was trying to do that than would probably do a private listing but I could be wrong. I think that we are seing part of the new era of Baseball cards without 15+ companies issuing a rookie card making there value much higher but 100k is just plain stupid!

D. Bergin
06-23-2010, 05:16 PM
Is it being shilled? Any thoughts?

I am starting to think so.

Tony


I don't think it's being shilled. At this point it would be completely stupid to do so.

I do think a large majority of these large numbers will end up being fake bids from people screwing with the auction and the guy will never collect whatever the final bid on this ends up going off at.

FUBAR
06-23-2010, 05:18 PM
With 100k i could get Two Harleys, a double wide, and a wife with a full set of teeth! Dang, id be living large then! lol


100 k could get me a heck of a collection, cards, bats, balls, bike, boat....

Smokey Joe
06-23-2010, 06:20 PM
oh no, say it ain't so Joe!!!....does price go down to $50,000 now?

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37882640/ns/sports-baseball/

FUBAR
06-23-2010, 06:51 PM
his stats were still impressive.... especially seeing as they have him on a pitch count. Not really his fault his team cannot score a run!

Epps
06-23-2010, 07:08 PM
Does anyone realize that the Strasburg card is now up to $102,000.

t206hound
06-23-2010, 07:37 PM
Took my boys to see him pitch this afternoon... struck out nine but didn't seem to have his best stuff. Never got over 98 on the radar. But the kid is for real... even if those bids aren't. No way someone is actually going to pay over $100K for that card.
his stats were still impressive.... especially seeing as they have him on a pitch count. Not really his fault his team cannot score a run!

FUBAR
06-23-2010, 07:46 PM
i read the write up on the game and they blamed his pitching speed on the heat.... apparently you cant pitch quite as fast when it is hot out?

You never know what someone will pay for something they really want.... the high bidders have alot of feedback... remember what we were saying last week... no one would spend 16 k... the guy thought he got a great deal on the card! I seen him on tv talking about it

GrayGhost
06-23-2010, 08:34 PM
That price is ridiculous, stupid, moronic and whoever pays that for that card when you could buy a house, or a great rare old card/set is a total fool.

Matthew H
06-23-2010, 08:44 PM
That price is ridiculous, stupid, moronic and whoever pays that for that card when you could buy a house, or a great rare old card/set is a total fool.

Maybe he already has plenty of houses :)

2dueces
06-23-2010, 10:09 PM
Whatever floats their boat. I think the hype is good for the hobby at this moment. 5 years from now when the card hits $20 it will be bad for the hobby. Look at all the Pub it's getting. It may bring people back and start collecting again. As for the price. I'll never understand it, but since I'm not bidding, I don't need to understand it.
Another thing I don't understand is the variations of the 1/1's. I guess a true 1/1 would be only one? Not 10 different colored 1/1's. Just me I guess.

Matthew H
06-24-2010, 01:53 AM
Whatever floats their boat. I think the hype is good for the hobby at this moment. 5 years from now when the card hits $20 it will be bad for the hobby. Look at all the Pub it's getting. It may bring people back and start collecting again. As for the price. I'll never understand it, but since I'm not bidding, I don't need to understand it.
Another thing I don't understand is the variations of the 1/1's. I guess a true 1/1 would be only one? Not 10 different colored 1/1's. Just me I guess.

If there was one t206 Wagner with a green background wouldn't you call it a 1/1?

cozmokramer
06-24-2010, 05:47 AM
Feedback of 4 now bidding it up in $200 increments... can anyone say more shill bidding going on?

GrayGhost
06-24-2010, 07:28 AM
It is probably shill bidding.

plus, I guess Im just discouraged someone can actually afford that and such. Still, as others have said, whatever floats your boat and if you have the means, then by all rights, go for it.

No point furthering my already high BP and nerve quotient by arguing over this stupid card.haha. :p

Rob D.
06-24-2010, 08:49 AM
plus, I guess Im just discouraged someone can actually afford that and such.

Why?

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 09:37 AM
all you have to do is watch the Barrett Jackson car auction to know how much $$ guys have to spend on their hobbies....

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 09:42 AM
the seller canceled those bids for less then 10 feedback....

Buythatcard
06-24-2010, 10:37 AM
Am I seeing things? I just looked at the lsiting and it's going for $113,500.00 with 4 days left. Do people have so much money to throw away on 1 card?

I wish I was the person that was selling that card.

GrayGhost
06-24-2010, 10:56 AM
Why?

Not relevant I guess to the discussion..

Its still stupid as heck IMO.

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 11:01 AM
Here is a 1/2. Why is this worth only 2 percent of the 1/1????
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-BOWMAN-BLUE-250-AUTO-PSA-9-/180522578524?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2a07fbf25c

Matthew H
06-24-2010, 11:13 AM
Don't these people know they're supposed to wait 'til the last day to bid? They're shilling themselves! :confused:

Peter, there are only 2 mint 9's but there's probably 20 gem mint 10's. You'd have to mishandle these cards to get anything less then mint 9. If there is only 2, it just means people aren't grading them.

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 11:19 AM
In the begining of this thread I was shocked that the card was at $18,000.00,,,,,,,,but IMO this is ridiculous. I'm not saying it's stupid to pay alot for something you really want, I seem to do it quite often- but I also try to factor in the item holding some type of value over time----will this card really hold even 25% (and that's being generous IMO) of $100,000.00 ?????:confused:

I agree with the comments of it being their $$ and let 'em buy what makes them happy--sure--but where does common sense play a part?

No doubt Strasburg is proving to be an awesome pitcher, but this early in his career would paying this much for any one of his cards be a wise move?

Clayton

yanks12025
06-24-2010, 11:20 AM
I don't know whether the bids are real or not, but if some wants to spend that much then let them. What about the vintage cards that go 100k +, others would look at them and say their stupid just because it's modern shouldn't discourage the person from his hobby.

slidekellyslide
06-24-2010, 11:33 AM
A factor that may not have been discussed yet is that the buyer may be doing this for publicity. Maybe this person wants to be known as the owner of the most expensive modern card?

"The modern day Honus Wagner card!"

Matthew H
06-24-2010, 11:58 AM
This seems like a memorable enough moment in the hobby. It may be setting it self up for future hobby lore. If he lives up to his expectations... You never know.

t206hound
06-24-2010, 12:02 PM
Looking at the card, it is 1 of 250... only two have been graded by PSA
Here is a 1/2. Why is this worth only 2 percent of the 1/1????
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-BOWMAN-BLUE-250-AUTO-PSA-9-/180522578524?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2a07fbf25c

tothrk
06-24-2010, 12:05 PM
I wonder when he'll end up in a Yankees uniform. I wonder what the guy who sold it the first time is thinking.

D. Bergin
06-24-2010, 12:52 PM
Anybody remember this stat line from a 20 year-old phenom in 1985?


24W 4L 1.53ERA 35GS 16CG 8 Shutouts 276.2IP 268Strikeouts 0.965 Whip


Let's not forget he also came in 2nd place in Cy Young voting the year before as a 19 year-old Rookie. Imagine what his card would be worth if he came up today. ;)


Oh, not to mention he also played in the biggest market in the country.

GrayGhost
06-24-2010, 12:53 PM
Sort of related to this topic and the Blue autographed card. Its PSA 9, one of two. Let me ask this, Why does that make it ANY better than someone who may have one of these who didn't send it to grade?

In general, lets say you have 500 Ty cobb T 206 cards. and 100 have been graded. Someone says "one of only two graded seven" none higher. Does that make the 400 "Raw ones" not worth money (assuming they are all original/unaltered).

I guess Im saying that a card being "1 of xxx" graded at that level, shouldnt mean it is the those are the only ones in that physical grade around, as some may not want to grade cards and be holding Raw ones in at least that shape. Puts a super high premium on grading, I guess..

hunterdutchess
06-24-2010, 02:28 PM
Looks like the superfractor 1/1 first time buyer for $16,400 got himself a nice little profit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1-/150458901752?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item23080ca4f8

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 04:31 PM
Just passed 210k with 4 days left.... will we see 300k???

just saying that makes my ears bleed!

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 05:16 PM
Do you all think the seller will really get paid at this point? This just seems strange to me.

Clayton

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 05:38 PM
well the high bidder has 1400+ feedback.... will he pay.. who knows... he isnt a rookie with that feedback

card just past 260k.... i watched it climb 100k in 45 minutes.. crazy crazy crazy...

Matthew H
06-24-2010, 05:43 PM
It's funny how earlier in this thread people were discussing what they would do with the 18k the card was selling for.

If this seller was having any trouble financially then that's over now.

jboosted92
06-24-2010, 05:52 PM
well the high bidder has 1400+ feedback.... will he pay.. who knows... he isnt a rookie with that feedback

card just past 225k.... i watched it climb 50k in 5 minutes.. crazy crazy crazy...



Now at this point, i hope it goes for like 100 million..........because whatever company buys it....will never recoup it....probably a Las Vegas Casino or something

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 05:57 PM
One could now buy a low grade T206 Wagner at the current price of $250,000.

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 05:58 PM
Correction......make that $252,100. And the current high bidder has bid at least 30 times on the card today.

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 05:59 PM
Does anybody really understand what is going on here?

jboosted92
06-24-2010, 06:06 PM
Does anybody really understand what is going on here?


Barry, this auction has more swinging D1cks, than a Chippendales event......its unreal

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 06:07 PM
Barry, I admit this makes little sense to me. Leon did a great job of explaining this earlier in the thread, but this price,to me, is beyond reality.

And just for the record,I don't care how anyone spends their money. If someone wants to spend $350,000.00 on this card, go for it. To me, I couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of $$ on any card of a player with hardly any history in the game. And look how many "1 of 1's" keep popping up. One of one Blue, one of one red, one of one black, one of one sig orange blah blah blah...............

Clayton

cozmokramer
06-24-2010, 06:07 PM
it says paypal is the only method of payment... that will be interesting.

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 06:13 PM
I think this has gone beyond bidding on a baseball card. I can't believe that anyone, even the high bidders, believe this is worth a quarter of a million dollars, and I still think it has a long way to go. Maybe a million dollars at this rate.

So I think bidders are buying something else. Maybe being able to say you bought the most "valuable" modern baseball card is worth something to somebody, I'm really not sure. But these bidders are perceiving this card in some unique way.

Smokey Joe
06-24-2010, 06:14 PM
Obviously the current/high bidder will not be paying for it at a quarter mill....i bet the seller is sooooo pissed since he knows there is no way he should expect payment.

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 06:17 PM
It's already at 261K, and the high bidder has bid on it about fifty times. And there are four days left. Again, what is going on? Nothing makes any sense.

slidekellyslide
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
This guy should have done the same as the first guy that sold his 1/1 Strasburg and worked with ebay to pre-approve all bidders to make sure he was weeding out the idiots.

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
A VG Wagner T206, or this Strasburg........hhhmmmnnn........:rolleyes:

jboosted92
06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
Obviously the current/high bidder will not be paying for it at a quarter mill....i bet the seller is sooooo pissed since he knows there is no way he should expect payment.


They will pay... i think companies are starting to bid now

GoldenAge50s
06-24-2010, 06:27 PM
It's all been just fun & games since it got near $100K---it's way outta' hand now. One guy has bid over 50 times and others are just playing along.

Seller should cancel everything back to about 50K & take his chances, otherwise it's a total farce.

PS: The 1914 FB guy has bid 48 times, not 50 as I stated above

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
it could be the Golden Palace casino... they like to waste money on ebay!

hunterdutchess
06-24-2010, 06:42 PM
Is 1Mill range possible? I can just see Olberman, Dicaprio, and Gates all on there computers doing one big pissing match for this card : )

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 06:49 PM
It's now 310K...I say it goes for a million.

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 06:53 PM
Anybody remember this stat line from a 20 year-old phenom in 1985?


24W 4L 1.53ERA 35GS 16CG 8 Shutouts 276.2IP 268Strikeouts 0.965 Whip


Let's not forget he also came in 2nd place in Cy Young voting the year before as a 19 year-old Rookie. Imagine what his card would be worth if he came up today. ;)


Oh, not to mention he also played in the biggest market in the country.

Yeah I made the Gooden point in another thread, it really goes to show how a few games or even a few years doth not a career make.

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 06:53 PM
It's now 310K...I say it goes for a million.

A Mill could be possible with as much activity as this card has had in the last 8 hours. Absolutely crazy!

ctownboy
06-24-2010, 06:54 PM
Knowing how Scott Boras likes to HYPE things to the extreme, I wouldn't put it past him to have somebody bidding on this card. That way, he can say that he represents the best rookie pitcher in MLB who has the HIGHEST priced modern baseball card in the world.

David

tiger8mush
06-24-2010, 07:00 PM
Looks like the superfractor 1/1 first time buyer for $16,400 got himself a nice little profit:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1-/150458901752?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item23080ca4f8

this card is currently at $22k, and in the questions section the seller said it was graded a 9.5 by BGS. I find it hard to believe that the centering (one of the four subgrades) could've gotten anything higher than a 7. I think to get a 9.5 the lowest any one grade could be is 8.5, correct? Just looks OC to the right, unless thats how its spoze to look?

But hey, I guess $22k is peanuts compared to the other 1/1 thats going for over a quarter mil

Rob
:)

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:02 PM
i wont mentioned it just passed 600k, but people are screwing with it now.....

Abravefan11
06-24-2010, 07:03 PM
Now over $500k. :eek:

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:04 PM
810k

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 07:05 PM
Now 800K.

Abravefan11
06-24-2010, 07:05 PM
Just went up $250k in 2 mins. Crazy!

asoriano
06-24-2010, 07:05 PM
Make it $900,000.

What a mess!

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 07:07 PM
The 900K is a new bidder.

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 07:07 PM
Looks like Barry's prediction of $1,000,000 will happen in the next few minutes.

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:08 PM
920

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 07:08 PM
I've never seen anything like this.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:09 PM
this is better then REA.... 6 different people are bidding.. i dont get it, there are 4 days left not 4 minutes

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:13 PM
15 retractions so far.

asoriano
06-24-2010, 07:13 PM
I like how fifteen people "accidentally entered the wrong amount".

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 07:14 PM
Could it surpass the T206 Gretzky/McNall Wagner ($2.8 Million) as the most ever paid for a card?

I still don't think the winning bidder will pay for this card.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:15 PM
11 bids just got canceled ... back to 920K and stable.... this guy must be wetting himself! I know id be dancing around the house if it was me....

George, Weesie and myself would be movin' on up!

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 07:15 PM
I expected the million dollars to be a last minute snipe. This is happening so fast that I am starting to think there is something fishy going on.

Anyone suspect that before the night is out this is shut down?

cozmokramer
06-24-2010, 07:15 PM
I can't believe that this auction has not been shut down yet.... I thought ebay would based on the previous shill bidding patterns throughout.

barrysloate
06-24-2010, 07:16 PM
Eric- I was just thinking the same thing. If all these bids are on the level, then this is going to surpass the Wagner and become the most expensive baseball card.

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 07:18 PM
Eric- I was just thinking the same thing. If all these bids are on the level, then this is going to surpass the Wagner and become the most expensive baseball card.

Which completely blows my mind that anyone would pay (which again I don't think it will be paid for when it ends) that much for a rookie card from this year of someone that's only played 4 games so far.

Abravefan11
06-24-2010, 07:19 PM
I know id be dancing around the house if it was me....


If this auction ends up being legit and the transaction completed there will be a lot of dancing in the Bowman offices.

cozmokramer
06-24-2010, 07:20 PM
next year bowman will only produce one of every card and sell them all on ebay as 1 of 1s

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:21 PM
the two guys really going at it have over 1778 feedback... doesn't sound like a shill account no matter how ridiculous this is getting.

I think this is turning into a pissing contest between guys with too much money! Its not about the card any more, its about winning!

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:24 PM
Maybe it is the Nigerian Prince who is always trying to give me money, maybe he found something else to spend his "money" on :D

jboosted92
06-24-2010, 07:30 PM
Maybe it is the Nigerian Prince who is always trying to give me money, maybe he found something else to spend his "money" on :D

come on..its at 999,000

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:31 PM
7 different bidders have bid over 950. Yeah right.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:31 PM
One million dollars!!!! Holly sh*t! EVEN IF IT DOESN'T TURN OUT TO BE LEGIT, IT IS ENTERTAINING!

Kotton King
06-24-2010, 07:31 PM
Maybe it is the Nigerian Prince who is always trying to give me money, maybe he found something else to spend his "money" on :D

LOL....that's funny!

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 07:32 PM
Yeah, someone's really going to drop a mil on this card............:rolleyes:

cozmokramer
06-24-2010, 07:33 PM
Whats the ebay fee on this thing?

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:36 PM
That does it, I am going to offer him $1.2 million off ebay before this thing gets too out of control.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:38 PM
Lol, you should offer him $50 legitimate dollars!

jboosted92
06-24-2010, 07:38 PM
Whats the ebay fee on this thing?


uh oh guys....i have a feeling, there is colusion going on here,

I bet a few guys are doing the bidding on this card, cause they are PISSED about the whole thing

The high bidder also bids on "Magic the Gathering" ??? i mean really??

Abravefan11
06-24-2010, 07:39 PM
I hope the winner is signed up for Ebay Bucks.

teetwoohsix
06-24-2010, 07:40 PM
I bet people are buying up the boxes of Bowman Chromes right now trying to find another 1/1 Strasburg version hoping to hit the lottery:D

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:48 PM
so am I to assume the ebay listing doesnt go above $999,999.99 ?? or are guys saying.. no way am I bidding one million...lol

4815162342
06-24-2010, 07:49 PM
next year bowman will only produce one of every card and sell them all on ebay as 1 of 1s

Genius! You're awesome.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:50 PM
after the 16K for the first Strasburg, the distributors starting gouging... they raised the prices from $100 a box to $1000, at least around here... My buddy owns a card store and he said that's what they did to him... it will only get worse now!

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:51 PM
after the 16K for the first Strasburg, the distributors starting gouging... they raised the prices from $100 a box to $1000, at least around here... My buddy owns a card store and he said that's what they did to him... it will only get worse now!

If the card's been pulled, wouldn't the price go DOWN?

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:54 PM
Now the retractions will start, watch.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:54 PM
I'm not overly familiar with the product, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a couple different colored 1 of 1's.... plus there are still plenty of other levels of Strasburg to be had within this series

4815162342
06-24-2010, 07:56 PM
After the auction, as a joke, someone should post it in the June Pickup Thread.

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:57 PM
I still don't understand why his 2008 cards on Team USA are not his rookie cards -- 1985 Topps McGwire was a Team USA card.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 07:59 PM
Ichieh will be asking how much more it is worth if it gets a BGS 9.5....

Ironically enough, the first 1 of 1 graded a 9.5 (or so the re-listing claims) which surprised me as the centering was off!

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 07:59 PM
LOLOLOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-PURPLE-1-1-ERROR-/300440595037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item45f3a7aa5d

Peter_Spaeth
06-24-2010, 08:05 PM
Ichieh will be asking how much more it is worth if it gets a BGS 9.5....

Ironically enough, the first 1 of 1 graded a 9.5 (or so the re-listing claims) which surprised me as the centering was off!

I think Ichieh is part of the mix here.:D:D

Abravefan11
06-24-2010, 08:05 PM
LOLOLOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-PURPLE-1-1-ERROR-/300440595037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item45f3a7aa5d

It's all about the marketing. If the seller could only get a group of over zealous huckleberry's to prove that Joe Jackson somehow figures into this card he'd really have something.

tbob
06-24-2010, 08:24 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how many second offers are sent out on this card :D

D. Bergin
06-24-2010, 09:31 PM
LOLOLOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-PURPLE-1-1-ERROR-/300440595037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item45f3a7aa5d


:mad:

Seriously, how many different of these freakin' cards are out there?

I'm waiting for a Gold Chromed, Uranium enriched, Sorcerer enchanted, Hobbit dipped in the fires of Mt. Vesuvius 1 of 1/2 version, before I put in any serious bids on this card.

FUBAR
06-24-2010, 09:33 PM
that third one isn't a one of one, it is an error card the guy is calling a 1 of 1


he'll be lucky to get $500

Pup6913
06-24-2010, 09:57 PM
Are you "F"'n kidding. Almost a cool Mil. This card is worth more than a Wagner. Any shilling going in this you think???

Wish I had pulled this one.:D

D. Bergin
06-24-2010, 10:02 PM
that third one isn't a one of one, it is an error card the guy is calling a 1 of 1


he'll be lucky to get $500


I still ain't bidding on it unless it's been touched by Hobbits. ;)

kmac32
06-25-2010, 01:16 AM
someone been smoking some doobie if they would pay a million dollars for that card! LOL

Smokey Joe
06-25-2010, 04:38 AM
Only way to sell this card on eBay is to have a buy it now which includes an immediate payment required.



Some funny post here in the last few hours.

barrysloate
06-25-2010, 04:46 AM
It will be interesting to hear after the auction what this was all about. One possibility is the seller won't get paid. Another is whoever is bidding is going to buy a million dollars worth of PR.

What's certain is the winning bidder is not attempting to complete a 2010 Bowman set, and this is the last card he needs.:)

thekingofclout
06-25-2010, 04:54 AM
I'm fairly certain that WALMART sells Topps & Bowman, and history does tend to repeat itself...

GrayGhost
06-25-2010, 05:18 AM
I still ain't bidding on it unless it's been touched by Hobbits. ;)

FRODO will touch it, and maybe Sam, then you can bid:)

This is obviously a scam with fake bids, some perhaps from people who are caught up in the sheer idiocy of this situation, and are just fooling around.

Buythatcard
06-25-2010, 05:27 AM
I would like to see what happens if Strasburg gets shelled in his next outing. If the auction is still going, are the bidders going to pull out?

I still think that something fishy is going on here. Who would bid almost 1 mil for a player what has only played 3 major league games?

GrayGhost
06-25-2010, 05:34 AM
It is 100 pct fake, must be.

The Taxman cometh too for the "seller" of this fantastic piece of history

Now: a Sales pitch for anyone on here thinking of bidding:

the best 1/1 card extant. Do not miss your opportunity to be a part of history, and the career of this true Superstar in the making. What are the limits of this amazing card? BOUNDLESS, just like Steven Strasburg's career. Is it a lot of money? Yes, but you need to spend money to make money. You will be the envy of all of your card collecting friends. Gold, Platinum, Diamonds, why buy those ? Get in on the ground floor and be on top of the world with Strasomania. BID NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.:cool:

hunterdutchess
06-25-2010, 09:07 AM
The t206 Honus Wagner NM-MT 8 sold for 2.8Mill> Can this Strasburgh reach 2.9Mill? I hope it does and he than turns into Fernando Venezuela!!!!!

Do you think the guy's in the locker room are giving him crap about this?

WillBBC
06-25-2010, 09:57 AM
There is no way this card will sell during this auction. The seller does not require bid registration so any idiot with an eBay account can hike the bidding up to a billion dollars if they wanted.

I can't wait to see what happens with this though and to see what it really sells for.

Matthew H
06-25-2010, 12:42 PM
It will be interesting to hear after the auction what this was all about. One possibility is the seller won't get paid. Another is whoever is bidding is going to buy a million dollars worth of PR.

What's certain is the winning bidder is not attempting to complete a 2010 Bowman set, and this is the last card he needs.:)

IMO, this auction has climbed beyond the realm of a publicity stunt. I have worked for a lot of small companies and start-ups that sometimes used these methods. It was usually due to not having enough money for any real PR. A top notch PR firm could really get your company known for this kind of coin. Heck, you could probably get Strasburg himself to endorse you for that money!

No, I think this auction is genuine crazy. I will probably be tracking this card for years to come.

D. Bergin
06-25-2010, 02:11 PM
Jesus on toast only went for about 10 grand.

Jesus on cardboard.............well that's a whole 'nother story. :D

Wonder if this Strasburg fella can walk on water.

FUBAR
06-25-2010, 02:16 PM
I don't think you can enter 7 digits before the decimal place, that's why bidding has stopped... it would be odd that several guys would bid 999,999.99 but in no way are they gonna bid one million, that's just too much!


If he can't walk on water, can he part the sea?

Exhibitman
06-25-2010, 06:08 PM
I actually feel kind of sorry for the seller if the bids are not legit. The guy has 100% feedback and doesn't look to be a fraudulent account phishing for illicitly obtained money. He seems to have pulled a card at just the right moment and has a chance for some real bank from it but a bunch of yo-yos are messing with his auction. Just because a lot of collectors scoff at the hype and pricing of these sorts of cards doesn't mean that they have the right to wreck this guy's auction. Kinda basic manners, if you ask me, a Golden Rule sort of thing. I know I'd be pretty pissed off if I was selling something on Ebay and a bunch of dorks hijacked my auction and wrecked it for me.

Edited to add: I see he's now added this:

Ebay has finally allowed me to pre-approve bidders. If you would like to bid on this item and are able and willing to pay please email me before bidding to get approval. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY BID ON THIS ITEM please contact me also as I will be deleting bids of people who do not contact me. Thanks for your time.

barrysloate
06-25-2010, 06:56 PM
He's been deleting bids like crazy. At one point yesterday he had about 280. Right now he only has 168. It seems pointless to remove underbids, so I assume he is in fact disqualifying bidders.

On what basis can he determine which bidders are legitimate?

hunterdutchess
06-25-2010, 07:02 PM
He is going to get a million for this card. I bet the winning bidder is from a giant corp. and is going to use it for a promotion.

FUBAR
06-25-2010, 07:16 PM
well even though he eliminated bids, the price still hasn't declined.... maybe 1.5 mill?? id be crapping my pants if this was my card....

tbob
06-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Funny how this card hovers just south of 1 mil. You'd think someone would kick in the extra $500 to push it above 1 mil.

FUBAR
06-25-2010, 10:30 PM
that's why i don't think you can enter 7 digits before the decimal, ebay probably has never needed that 7th digit... originally there were 5 people that bid 999,999.99 but not a single penny more.....

brass_rat
06-25-2010, 10:44 PM
And the drop begins...back to "only" a half mil...

barrysloate
06-26-2010, 04:59 AM
Now it's at $501,000. Are any of the bids real? Are we to assume that every one of the bids placed between 500K and 999K were fake? I still have no idea what's going on.

I see he deleted bids of those who never contacted him. Very strange indeed.

teetwoohsix
06-26-2010, 12:09 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I really don't think someone will be paying $500,000.00++ for this card. If the seller can get it,good for him/her,-I just don't think it will happen........

Clayton

FUBAR
06-26-2010, 12:20 PM
I honestly think he should re-list the auction, start over with ebay pre-qualifying the bidders..... get rid of all the crap.

Bilko G
06-26-2010, 01:14 PM
I'm not overly familiar with the product, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a couple different colored 1 of 1's.... plus there are still plenty of other levels of Strasburg to be had within this series

All the Strasburg 1/1s have been pulled. There are 3 different. The Superfractor, the red 1/1 and the red autograph 1/1.

Peter_Spaeth
06-26-2010, 01:30 PM
Bid retraction and cancellation history

Bidder Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction
Member Id: e***a( 145) Cancelled: US $999,999.00
Explanation: did not email me Bid: Jun-25-10 17:27:09 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 17:33:07 PDT
Member Id: p***a( 656) Retracted: US $253,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 16:58:44 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 17:01:12 PDT
Member Id: m***t( 600) Cancelled: US $920,000.00
Explanation: not a serious bidder Bid: Jun-24-10 18:07:02 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 12:36:53 PDT
Member Id: c***l( 1951) Retracted: US $3,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-18-10 18:12:48 PDT
Retracted: Jun-23-10 11:13:42 PDT
Member Id: m***l( 71) Retracted: US $17,802.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-20-10 06:28:21 PDT
Retracted: Jun-20-10 06:31:07 PDT
Member Id: f***y( 25) Retracted: US $999,900.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:24:17 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 19:04:02 PDT
Member Id: o***b( 824) Retracted: US $100,900.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-23-10 06:05:27 PDT
Retracted: Jun-26-10 04:04:35 PDT
Member Id: p***t( 320) Retracted: US $999,650.57
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 20:09:00 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 20:10:40 PDT
Member Id: h***0( 28) Retracted: US $101,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-23-10 02:15:59 PDT
Retracted: Jun-23-10 02:17:08 PDT
Member Id: 8***l( 1918) Retracted: US $999,999.99
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:44:39 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:50:25 PDT
Member Id: h***9( 12) Retracted: US $125,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 13:02:25 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 13:00:05 PDT
Member Id: 1***t( 1779) Retracted: US $950,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:08:00 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:41:25 PDT
Member Id: n***a( 307) Retracted: US $100,900.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-23-10 11:56:12 PDT
Retracted: Jun-23-10 12:03:32 PDT
Member Id: n***a( 307) Retracted: US $149,900.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 16:27:11 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 16:28:04 PDT
Member Id: t***h( 259) Retracted: US $325,800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 17:55:36 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:24:56 PDT
Member Id: i***p( 524) Cancelled: US $999,999.99
Explanation: will not respond to my multiple attempts of contacting him Bid: Jun-24-10 23:02:29 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 17:20:06 PDT
Member Id: t***2( 391) Retracted: US $100,500.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-23-10 10:12:27 PDT
Retracted: Jun-23-10 12:03:56 PDT
Member Id: 2***n( 1495) Cancelled: US $900,000.00
Explanation: did not respond when I attempted to contact him/her Bid: Jun-24-10 18:04:29 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 17:25:28 PDT
Member Id: b***r( 561) Cancelled: US $999,800.00
Explanation: will not respond to my attempt to contact him/her Bid: Jun-24-10 22:41:07 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 17:23:33 PDT
Member Id: j***c( 1737) Retracted: US $999,700.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 19:54:08 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 05:01:54 PDT
Member Id: i***i( 7 ) Cancelled: US $130,200.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 15:45:25 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 18:37:00 PDT
Member Id: i***i( 6 ) Cancelled: US $120,000.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 04:41:47 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 07:00:53 PDT
Member Id: i***i( 6 ) Cancelled: US $120,000.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 10:41:43 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 12:30:49 PDT
Member Id: s***s( 28) Retracted: US $810,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:04:46 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:27:16 PDT
Member Id: a***y( 722) Retracted: US $76,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-18-10 18:58:25 PDT
Retracted: Jun-18-10 18:59:20 PDT
Member Id: t***d( 445) Retracted: US $999,999.99
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:06:34 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:11:44 PDT
Member Id: d***5( 343) Retracted: US $120,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 08:55:43 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 09:13:16 PDT
Member Id: a***c( 385) Retracted: US $999,401.27
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:29:52 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 21:33:11 PDT
Member Id: d***i( 810) Retracted: US $126,250.00
Explanation: Cannot contact the seller Bid: Jun-24-10 15:33:48 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 20:47:35 PDT
Member Id: m***m( 1398) Retracted: US $999,900.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:53:52 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 20:06:44 PDT
Member Id: w***4( 91) Retracted: US $835,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:05:05 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:42:36 PDT
Member Id: 3***h( 63) Retracted: US $250,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 16:42:14 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:39:08 PDT
Member Id: o***d( 671) Retracted: US $999,999.99
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:30:48 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:41:31 PDT
Member Id: a***h( 9 ) Cancelled: US $999,200.33
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 18:26:58 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 18:38:30 PDT
Member Id: r***n( 173) Retracted: US $135,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-19-10 09:36:49 PDT
Retracted: Jun-19-10 09:37:40 PDT
Member Id: g***k( 2 ) Cancelled: US $110,400.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 07:06:53 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 18:39:51 PDT
Member Id: f***f( 238) Cancelled: US $999,000.00
Explanation: not a serious bidder Bid: Jun-24-10 18:23:15 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-25-10 17:39:27 PDT
Member Id: r***a( 63) Retracted: US $217,456.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 16:35:27 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 20:11:14 PDT
Member Id: l***p( 68) Retracted: US $999,800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 20:37:52 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 20:38:43 PDT
Member Id: p***j( 36) Retracted: US $50,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-22-10 21:04:41 PDT
Retracted: Jun-25-10 12:18:03 PDT
Member Id: 2***m( 5 ) Cancelled: US $11,000.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedback Bid: Jun-18-10 21:29:47 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-23-10 15:33:24 PDT
Member Id: c***o( 53) Retracted: US $38,200.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-22-10 11:53:49 PDT
Retracted: Jun-22-10 12:10:27 PDT
Member Id: d***c( 33) Retracted: US $999,800.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 21:05:06 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 21:05:59 PDT
Member Id: a***c( 27) Retracted: US $34,300.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-21-10 15:20:45 PDT
Retracted: Jun-21-10 15:43:15 PDT
Member Id: n***c( 0 ) Cancelled: US $100,000.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedback Bid: Jun-22-10 15:11:41 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-23-10 15:32:08 PDT
Member Id: c***c ( private ) Not a registered user Retracted: US $220,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-20-10 16:31:59 PDT
Retracted: Jun-21-10 15:24:08 PDT
Member Id: c***c ( private ) Not a registered user Retracted: US $0.00
Explanation: Administrative Cancellation Bid: Jun-21-10 15:24:08 PDT
Retracted: Jun-23-10 12:42:38 PDT
Member Id: w***e( 18) Not a registered user Cancelled: US $5,000.00
Explanation: Administrative Cancellation Bid: Jun-18-10 18:21:51 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 18:10:17 PDT
Member Id: j***k( 3 ) Cancelled: US $101,400.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-23-10 15:07:17 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-23-10 15:31:04 PDT
Member Id: e***s( 0 ) Retracted: US $12,600.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-19-10 08:00:06 PDT
Retracted: Jun-19-10 08:00:36 PDT
Member Id: a***r( 1 ) Retracted: US $750,000.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-24-10 18:02:04 PDT
Retracted: Jun-24-10 18:16:24 PDT
Member Id: m***d( 2 ) Cancelled: US $300,000.00
Explanation: less than 10 feedbacks Bid: Jun-24-10 17:26:39 PDT
Cancelled: Jun-24-10 18:37:40 PDT

barrysloate
06-26-2010, 02:00 PM
"Entered wrong amount" is another way of saying fake bid. And there sure were a lot of them.

FUBAR
06-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Entered wrong amount, i always think guys do this to see what the other person's "max" is

dstraate
06-26-2010, 07:46 PM
Easy to enter an accidental bid when there are that many zeros.

This card is going for well over twice the value of my house. Thoreau would not be impressed.

Rickyy
06-27-2010, 02:30 AM
Maybe the Nationals bid for this card...and will give it away as a publicity stunt...the 3 millionth customer to come through the gates before the end of the season gets the card presented to him/her from Strausburg himself.....then they could also write off the expense for business purposes..:)

Abravefan11
06-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Now it's at $501,000. Are any of the bids real? Are we to assume that every one of the bids placed between 500K and 999K were fake? I still have no idea what's going on.

I see he deleted bids of those who never contacted him. Very strange indeed.

Bids are still being pulled and the price is down to $225,800. This auction has been such a mess that I think it should be cancelled.

barrysloate
06-27-2010, 11:59 AM
I agree Tim. This auction is a real mess. And the seller seems to be a solid guy. It's the bidders who are playing games and screwing him up.

brass_rat
06-27-2010, 12:26 PM
Looks like the seller took the advice of those here...all bids cancelled and it's back to 99 cents...

Steve

barrysloate
06-27-2010, 02:26 PM
That's really strange. Are we to assume none of those bids were real? That's impossible.

David Atkatz
06-27-2010, 02:32 PM
Maybe people are smarter than we sometimes give them credit for.

FUBAR
06-27-2010, 02:33 PM
all bids were canceled and the auction closed. I am sure he will relist very soon....

barrysloate
06-27-2010, 02:35 PM
I'm sure the bids were genuine up to say....fifty bucks. After that I'm not sure.:)

Abravefan11
06-27-2010, 02:39 PM
That's really strange. Are we to assume none of those bids were real? That's impossible.

I think some of the bids were real however after the bidding frenzy and subsequent retractions I don't see how anyone could have faith in the auction or any of the remaining bids. The seller did the right thing and cancelled the auction and will be wiser (we hope) in setting up the next listing.

FUBAR
06-27-2010, 02:48 PM
I dont think the seller had any clue that things would go the way they did...

Barry.... i still think this card will go for 100k......

David Atkatz
06-27-2010, 02:49 PM
If it does, it will certainly reinforce my belief in P.T. Barnum's judgment.

barrysloate
06-27-2010, 02:58 PM
I know it's worth more than fifty dollars but does anyone really believe this piece of...nothing...is worth 100K?

Abravefan11
06-27-2010, 03:03 PM
There are three Strasburg 1 of 1's. The red sold for $4k and the refractor sold for $16k. I think given the hype around these cards and Strasburg coupled with the autograph that this card will go for more than the other two. I will be surprised if it goes for $100k, I would guess more in the $30k-$50k range but who knows.

FUBAR
06-27-2010, 03:08 PM
the re-sale of the superfractor is now at 24k with a day and a half left

I would never pay 1k for the auto card but my prediction is 100k based on the amount of idiots out there with too much money!

Jim VB
06-27-2010, 03:14 PM
...based on the amount of idiots out there with too much money!


Jim,

LOL!

Do you define someone as an "idiot... with too much money," the very first time they outbid you on something, or does it take multiple auctions?

Peter_Spaeth
06-27-2010, 03:47 PM
LOL what a surprise.
2010 Bowman Stephen Strasburg Red Autograph 1/1 AUTO
1/1 Autograph BEST CARD ON THE Market!!!! RARE!! AUTO

Item condition: --

Ended: Jun 27, 201011:17:36 PDT

Bid history: 0 bids

FUBAR
06-27-2010, 04:29 PM
I define an idiot as "someone who would spend 100k on a card that is a month old and of a player who has played 4 games." I remember awhile back there was another sure fire pitcher who came out of the blocks with his guns ablaze... his name, Kerry Woods.... he had amazing stuff at the start! It only takes one injury to make that card worth 20$.


It isn't hard to outbid me right now.. unemployed now for 7 months leaves my card budget at about 10$.... had some good interviews so hopefully the sun will shine on this IDIOTS ass soon....then i can buy a real card here and there and get back to the BST again.... at least with my birthday money i was able to get 4 deals done on the BST....

FUBAR
06-27-2010, 04:30 PM
Jim,

LOL!

Do you define someone as an "idiot... with too much money," the very first time they outbid you on something, or does it take multiple auctions?

they usually get called the "c" word! and i put the L on my own forehead!

hunterdutchess
06-27-2010, 05:15 PM
The refractor winner who is reselling looks like he made a nice flip. It's at $23,599-6.10-($23,599*6%)=$22,190-$16,400=$5,790 profit. Thats more than I have spent on my entire collection!

WillBBC
06-27-2010, 06:10 PM
The guy will most likely sell it through somebody so that the bidders can register before throwing up a 50K price as a joke. I hope that didn't cost him too much in fees.

Buythatcard
06-28-2010, 07:18 AM
So, what happened? Listing ended with 0 bids.

FUBAR
06-28-2010, 09:55 PM
If anyone cares, the original Strasburg that was being re-sold, officially sold for 25k , so the guy made $8800 less ebay fees for his 3 weeks of owning the card....

and we were making fun of him!

D. Bergin
06-28-2010, 11:33 PM
If anyone cares, the original Strasburg that was being re-sold, officially sold for 25k , so the guy made $8800 less ebay fees for his 3 weeks of owning the card....

and we were making fun of him!


Well now we can make fun of the guy who paid 25K for it. :D

FUBAR
06-29-2010, 12:20 AM
until the auto version gets re-listed, then we can make fun of him instead

quinnsryche
06-29-2010, 04:28 AM
well now we can make fun of the guy who paid 25k for it. :d

ha! Lol!

Peter_Spaeth
06-29-2010, 05:10 AM
And the greatest pitcher of all time is now 2-2. Granted, a strong 2-2.

T206Collector
06-29-2010, 08:32 AM
If anyone cares, the original Strasburg that was being re-sold, officially sold for 25k , so the guy made $8800 less ebay fees for his 3 weeks of owning the card....

and we were making fun of him!

Like I said, there are good short term investments and good long term investments, even in baseball cards. The shiny stuff can still bring you huge cash, but you have to know when to sell.

Leon
06-29-2010, 08:33 AM
And the greatest pitcher of all time is now 2-2. Granted, a strong 2-2.

To me this is actually legal gambling at it's best. If he loses his next game how much, if any, will his cards go down? If he loses 2 in a row, then how much, if any? AND if he keeps winning...then what? Hey, it's bringing some excitement to baseball card collecting and that is a good thing. Certainly it's not my cup o tea but it is interesting.

Matthew H
06-29-2010, 10:45 AM
To me this is actually legal gambling at it's best. . .

That's funny, I've always compared packs of modern cards to those gas station scratch offs.

Has anyone seen the video of Beckett grading this card? They tried to cash in on some cheap publicity and it really backfired on them. They used to be so tough on grading modern cards that a Beckett 9.5 used to mean something.

Beckett customers are all over the web bashing the company now. I know they are customers because these are collectors on shiny card blogs and they are the ones using Beckett.

Its kinda funny watching the video. They immediately begin explaining how a card off center front and back can grade gem mint. They also turned the card around fast enough before the auction ended. (not mentioned in the video) Raw - $16,400, Beckett graded - $25,000. The stunt did not work though.

tbob
06-29-2010, 10:54 AM
2-2 and he doesn't get to face Kansas City again this year and maybe only one more start against Pittsburgh. Let's wait and see how he does against the better teams in the National League.
I guess this will put all the All-Star game selection garbage to bed.

D. Bergin
06-29-2010, 10:54 AM
And the greatest pitcher of all time is now 2-2. Granted, a strong 2-2.


Jeez, after watching the game last night. Strasburg will be lucky to be a .500 pitcher as long as he's on the Nationals.

tbob
06-29-2010, 11:38 AM
Guess he's getting a taste of how Walter Johnson felt when he started his career with the Senators! I thought I saw somewhere where Johnson and Bery Blyleven had the most 1-0 losses in history.

steve B
06-29-2010, 11:52 AM
It will be interesting to see how he compares to other great pitchers for his first year. Maybe Nolan Ryan?

6 and 9, 134 innings, 133 so, 75walks and 3.09 era

Going by wins and losses makes little sense for a guy on a weak team.

Steve B

Bilko G
06-29-2010, 01:56 PM
$9000 profit in about 3 weeks ain't too bad in my books and people say modern Sports cards are a bad investment;)