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hunterdutchess
06-16-2010, 11:58 PM
What is a approiate bid on a graded "authentic" card if it looks NM-MT to the naked eye? Should it be poor, vg, ex, or better? How is the value determined?

Pup6913
06-16-2010, 11:59 PM
By what you are willing to pay for it

glchen
06-17-2010, 12:03 AM
Cards that look NRMT, but are graded A are typically trimmed. They would often be valued at Poor or less, but as mentioned, it will depend on what buyers are willing to pay since they have a certain eye appeal.

rman444
06-17-2010, 12:50 AM
The cards in tonight's Andy Madec auction should give you a good idea.

glynparson
06-17-2010, 09:43 AM
Most high demand cards if they are authentic grade due to altering but look NM will almost always outsell a poor grade card. They often seem to sell in the g-vg range. Again it depends on the scarcity of the issue and the overall desirabilty to have that particular card with nice eye appeal.

jerrys
06-17-2010, 11:12 AM
This card was deemed 'miscut' therefore given an 'A'. Certainly more desirable than if it was a well-worn card.

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Chris Counts
06-17-2010, 12:42 PM
Here are the final prices of the “authentic” cards from the last night’s Andy Madec auction:

1) 1909-11 T-206 Ty Cobb Portrait Green PSA Authentic: $920.03

2) 1909 T-206 Ty Cobb Bat Off Shoulder PSA Authentic:*$904.75

3) 1911 T-205 Gold Border Christy Mathewson PSA Authentic: $611.00

4) 1909 E-102 Set of 25 Christy Mathewson PSA Authentic: $377.18

5) 1933 Goudey Lou Gehrig #160 PSA Authentic: $995.23

6) 1934 Goudey Lou Gehrig #61 PSA Authentic: $1,205.55

7) 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson (R) #79 PSA Authentic: $904.75

8) 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle #253 PSA Authentic:*$2,139.68

9) 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson #312 PSA Authentic: $458.25

10) 1953 Topps #82 Mickey Mantle PSA Authentic: $672.10

I’ve picked up a few “A” cards in recent years and typically paid prices that are representative of cards ranging from poor to very good, depending on the eye appeal. Since I primarily collect ungraded cards, I’ve simply accepted the fact that my collection has more trimmed cards in it than I can identify. The results from Andy Madec’s auction didn’t surprise me at all. It’s my belief that a vast number of trimmed or alterned cards have made it into holders, and that trimmed or altered cards will gain more acceptance with time ...

terjung
06-17-2010, 02:29 PM
There really is no hard fast answer. "A" cards will appeal to some and others wouldn't want them in their collection. To me, it matters why the card was graded "A"... trimming, restoration, recoloring, too much card stock missing, or a piece of tape on the back all weigh differently to me. Some I am ok with and some I am not. So, it really comes down to a personal decision of what you are comfortable with and what you are willing to pay for it.