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T206Collector
06-15-2010, 01:01 PM
We often see threads about why certain players did not have a cards -- or about how certain cards were not produced in certain quantities based on theories about caramel and tobacco licensing and products. Well, have you ever compared the 1911 T205 checklist to the 1909-11 T206 checklist? I did this afternoon, and I have to tell you, I was quite surprised at the number of players that appear in T205 but not T206. (While we're at it, why did Burdick get to T205 before T206 if T205 came second?)

In any event, can anyone tell me if they think I got the complete list of T206 no prints from the T205 set? I count at least 32 T205ers not in T206.

1 Archer
2 Austin
3 Bailey
4 Cady
5 Corridon
6 Daubert
7 Dickson
8 Fischer
9 Flynn
10 Foxen
11 Frick
12 Gardner
13 Grant
14 Hanford
15 Harmon
16 Hauser
17 Lang(e)
18 Lee
19 Leever
20 Lush
21 McAllister
22 McConnell
23 Nee
24 Richie
25 Rowan
26 Scanlan
27 Shean
28 Simmons
29 Suggs
30 Vaughn
31 Kirb White
32 Wolter

Seems to me that many of these players were already established by or in the period of the T206 run (1909-11), e.g., Leever and Wolter. And clearly each was either willing or did not successfully object to his appearance on a tobacco card. So how'd they get their mugs on T205 but not T206 -- especially if T206s were issued in 1911 along with their T205 counterpart? Obviously, the number of players in T205 was significantly limited in comparison to the T206 set. So why would approximately 1/6 of the T205 set contain entirely new players?

The obvious explanations would be a combination of (a) expired/new player licenses; with (b) declining/emerging talent. Anything else?

Pup6913
06-15-2010, 04:34 PM
I find this very neat as I have done the same in the past. I have always wondered if the T205's are part of the T206 series. Kinda like a parallel set that may have not been to popular. This may explain why all of the T205's are 400 series only. I believe (I am sure Ted will correct me if wrong) that there were some White border cards printed after T205's. The T206 460 subject right?

Maybe Burdick was lazy? (Just Joking but it is human nature sometimes) I have wondered that maybe he had sets of the cards there and classified the T205's first because it was the smallest and easiest.

Bridwell
06-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Only 6 of those 32 appear in T207, so 26 were in T205 but not in T206 or T207. 26 of 200 is a substantial percentage (13%). Some of the 26 had short careers between 1910-1911, I suppose.

Ron

T206Collector
06-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Well, if T205 contained a 50-75% count of non-T206'ers, I think it would be almost obviously a supplemental set. Still, 1/6 of no overlap does suggest a sort of supplemental or update set. Whatever the reason, I do think the 32 players listed provide a key to understanding not only T205 distribution, but also T206 distribution. If I had the time, I'd research those players and write a thesis about it!