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Blunder19
06-04-2010, 04:03 AM
Anyone get some nice cards from the goodwin?

Was it just me... or did the T206 rare backs go for very good deals?

SGC20 BL460 under $2400

PSA 4 Drum $2600

Not sure why the PSA 1 Red Hindu sold for almost as much as the SGC 10 Red Hindu... I would much rather have the SGC10 one...

Any thoughts on this?

wonkaticket
06-04-2010, 06:13 AM
No doubt I think we need to adjust some prices when it comes to backs.

It's very clear to see that BL460 is not pulling the coin it once was.

REA and now Goodwin seem to show that...in fact it was a good thing I needed the Murphy I bought for my back set recently. I can perhaps justify the overpayment as I clearly paid way more than market value based upon the same grade card going off in Goodwin for way less than I paid. No complaints though happy with my purchase and it was for my back run etc.

However if I was in the market for another BL460 I would have to take into consideration the past auction results.

Drum is on the rise and I don’t think Uzit would be far behind Drum today.

As for the PSA 4 Drum in Goodwin...I'm shocked that card is a 4 that is one ugly 4 IMO.

All of this flips sides over the years in another 3 years Drum will be down and perhaps BL460 is crazy again. With that said as of today it seems to be BL460 is a bit soft.

Cheers,

John

P.S. I guess SGC didn’t review the Brown Old Mill Dolly Stark in time or it wasn’t a Brown Old Mill?

Michael Peich
06-04-2010, 07:45 AM
Guys--I don't know if this is the correct thread for my request (Leon/Brian move me if I'm OT here), but if the winner(s) of the Emmerke, Patton and Phelan OJs have dupes they would like to sell, I'm interested, and please email me at mpeich@comcast.net.

The final price on Patton was quite strong, to say the least.

Thanks, Mike

tbob
06-04-2010, 09:47 AM
I managed to snag this E98 Vaughn, 2nd highest ever graded. I am trying to complete a red background E98 set since Scott's already got the complete green one :D

M's_Fan
06-04-2010, 09:52 AM
I picked up a few T205 St. Louis players that I think went for decent prices. $284 for the Huggins and $235 for the Bresnahan. I was the only bidder on the Bresnahan.

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/My%20T205%20Hall%20of%20Famers/Bresnahanmouthclosed235sgc60.jpg?t=1275666462http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/My%20T205%20Hall%20of%20Famers/Huggins284sgc70.jpg?t=1275666674

philliesphan
06-04-2010, 09:55 AM
was very happy to grab this:

http://www.goodwinandco.com/LotImages/18/Lot168a_med.jpeg

rman444
06-04-2010, 10:42 AM
I picked up this c1900's cabinet of Tinker. It is the image used for his T206 Hands on Knees pose - thought it was pretty cool!

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Matthew H
06-04-2010, 11:01 AM
I started going to card conventions with my Dad when I was 5. I stopped for a while in high school. Got interested again when ebay started. ( Suddenly I could afford 'em! )

Stopped again, hard times.

Started again, good times. :) I Don't remember the t206 rare backs being so popular. Maybe I was not paying close enough attention. I bet collecting a set is fun, but have they always drawn high dollars like that?

FUBAR
06-04-2010, 11:55 AM
I would be getting that E98 re-slabbed, i just couldn't have such a beautiful card flopping around lose in a holder. Id either re-submit to PSA for a better holder or SGC for a proper one.

Matt
06-04-2010, 11:58 AM
I picked up this c1900's cabinet of Tinker. It is the image used for his T206 Hands on Knees pose - thought it was pretty cool!


Richard - but it's slabbed as Chance! Great pickup (and price) on a wonderful companion piece.

JP
06-04-2010, 11:59 AM
As for the PSA 4 Drum in Goodwin...I'm shocked that card is a 4 that is one ugly 4 IMO.

I bought the Drum. I think the scan didn't do the card justice. I have almost purchased that card on two separate occasions from Scott over the past few years, but never got around to pulling the trigger. The card is most definitely better than a 3...probably deserves a 3.5. I'll post higher res scans so you can see once I receive it. Overgraded or not, I still think I got a heck of a deal getting it at PSA 2 prices.

wonkaticket
06-04-2010, 11:59 AM
Very tough E98 nice pick up Bob!

Bridwell
06-04-2010, 12:08 PM
I agree, JP. That Warhop was a great pick-up!

Ron

Blunder19
06-04-2010, 12:25 PM
I ended up buying the Red hindu Ford.

Not an absolute steal at $470... but in looking at the other red hindu which sold for $89 less... Id rather have mine for the extra $89..
Jamie

scottglevy
06-04-2010, 12:30 PM
Nice pickup JP. I'd be happy to buy it back from you plus a few bucks if you would rather flip it. I'm terribly disappointed by the selling price and would much rather have the card. Having said that, I'm at least glad that someone here ended up with it.

wonkaticket
06-04-2010, 12:31 PM
Bill Goodwin has decent nice large scans I think..

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn3/ebay/Lot95a_lg.jpg

Don’t get me wrong JP still a nice card to have, I’m just saying comparative to other 4’s that I have seen over the years Drum included. I think the cards visual appeal isn’t on the same level hence I’m not 100% sure it’s a 4…technically it may be but visually not so much.

In the end the cards visual look surely helped you grab a good deal congrats! :)

Also didn’t Hank & Scott list this same card in the BST back in the day for 4-5k?

Cheers,

John

P.S. Not comparing players or prices…just the look of a VGEX (4) card.

White Borders
06-04-2010, 12:39 PM
A few of my pickups - couldn't pass up a name like "Sleepy" Townsend! :)

M's_Fan
06-04-2010, 01:29 PM
Why did they call him sleepy, anyone know?

mrvster
06-04-2010, 02:07 PM
HELLO ALL!!
i don't know how to post the scan, but i picked up the t206 newt randall name inside uniform/ghost lot #100....FINALLY!!these are near impossible to find..the other example in the auction didn't have the name fully over the border...

i was looking for an example like this for a few years(like the del howard that was ebayed a few years ago).....i think i got an awesome price 2 boot!!!
finally not the bridesmaid!!LOL!!
very excited:o
THANKS EVERYONE!!:)


Johnny

JP
06-04-2010, 03:08 PM
I think that the Griffith has a big crease you can't see in that scan...from the top right hand corner diagonally through his face.

Scott, I kind of want to keep the card, but email me and we'll talk. I know it may hold sentimental value...

cfc1909
06-04-2010, 06:56 PM
here ya go Johnny
-nice pick up-I sent you an email


20066

Abravefan11
06-04-2010, 07:06 PM
Nice bearded Randall Jim.

cfc1909
06-04-2010, 07:55 PM
that card is Johnnys

mrvster
06-04-2010, 08:15 PM
Jim

Tim

THANKS GUYS!!!thanks for posting the scan for me Jim!!
nice card Dan!!and all the other board members congrats!!

did jantz pick up anything???


Johnny

Abravefan11
06-04-2010, 08:26 PM
that card is Johnnys

Sorry about that.

Great card Johnny!

gabrinus
06-04-2010, 09:54 PM
I finally got on another browser last night and could finally see the time left...didn't really matter as it went until 3 AM anyway..I won the 3 e97 panels and the T215 Pirate back Heine Wagner....I honestly think I got a deal on the E97s....the Pirate back may be a little high.

Jantz
06-04-2010, 10:38 PM
Nice pickups everyone!

Cool card Johnny!

I remember that T206 Howard you mention. Your Randall is the better example of the two, in my opinion. Congrats! :)

Email sent.

No winnings for me. :(


Jantz

JP
06-04-2010, 11:07 PM
Chicago would be furious if he saw two Red Hindus go for under $500. He never believed anyone when we said it was possible.

Blunder19
06-05-2010, 12:20 AM
Thank god Chicago is gone.. no more 100 post arguing... and I think he may have been driving up t206 back prices


Whats the next big auction coming up?

Jamie

mrvster
06-05-2010, 02:03 PM
JANTZ!!!

great to hear from you!!thanks about the randall, another "white whale" down for me!!i think your right, nicer example!!
i sent u an email back...
HANK L, u out there??
ttyl

thanks again everyone...always looking for t206 scraps/freaks!!!

Peace

Johnny

ChiefBenderForever
06-05-2010, 06:29 PM
Nice Randall Johnny !! He was the first Amish player to make it big !!

oldmancards
06-05-2010, 07:48 PM
I picked up the T206 Sovereign Hugh Duffy graded GAI 6 for $267. PSA values this card at $550 for a PSA 6 and $325 for a PSA 5. Those prices don't consider the back variation, so I think I got a very fair price.

Bob

e107collector
06-05-2010, 08:11 PM
Whoever won the Cracker Jack Joe Jackson, got a great deal in my opinion.

Tony

mrvster
06-05-2010, 10:42 PM
Johnny S

THANKS SO MUCH!!! Dan M. said looks like Lincoln!!LOL:)

HOW YA BEEN??? did u pick up any in this auction or REA???

THANKs AGAIN:D

Johnny

Anthony S.
06-05-2010, 11:17 PM
Wow, that Randall is very cool. Never seen the name inside the lithograph like that.

mrvster
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
ANTHONY

thanks!!!i have only seen one other example.... it was a del howard, i was underbidder about 3 years ago on ebay...still couldn't find an example since, and was a "white whale" of sorts to me...i have posted before asking, but no hits...i have/seen ghosted t206 players, but none with the "name shift" over the border...the bush in Goodwin was the only other one that has come close....

Jantz has a scan of the del howard if your reading maybe u can post??

DOES ANYONE HAVE/SEEN ANOTHER??i would love to see more examples
:)
thanks

Johnny

Jantz
06-06-2010, 07:28 PM
Heres the T206 of Howard that Johnny was referring to.

mrvster
06-06-2010, 07:48 PM
JANTZ!!!

THANKS!!!there's that %$#$ card!!

LOL:D

53Browns
06-07-2010, 06:49 AM
Hey guys, I have a rookie question. What is REA? Thanks.

baseballart
06-07-2010, 07:28 AM
http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/

Robert Edward Auctions, run by Rob Lifson

Max

53Browns
06-07-2010, 07:32 AM
Thanks Max! I appreciate it.

53Browns
06-07-2010, 07:35 AM
Looks like they only run one auction a year and of course I just missed it! Bummer.

tbob
06-07-2010, 01:28 PM
I finally got on another browser last night and could finally see the time left...didn't really matter as it went until 3 AM anyway..I won the 3 e97 panels and the T215 Pirate back Heine Wagner....I honestly think I got a deal on the E97s....the Pirate back may be a little high.

The big question is how are you going to display that complete e97 set in 3 sheets? Great looking! :)

gabrinus
06-07-2010, 02:10 PM
Thanks Bob....I thought I might display it on the wall at the liquor store. Your E98 Vaughn is nice...that is the nicest one I have seen.

chaddurbin
06-07-2010, 03:12 PM
those e97 uncut sheets are impressive!

gabrinus
06-07-2010, 07:35 PM
Thanks......I feel I got lucky on them.....I wish I knew their history.

E93
06-07-2010, 10:03 PM
Thanks......I feel I got lucky on them.....I wish I knew their history.
Very cool pickup. I think you got a great deal on it.

They were found about eight or nine years ago along with some partial E93 blank back sheets. I believe it was one E93 set in two sheets, one in three, and another partial. The other part of the partial was cut up into what are now E93 blank backs - often advertised as proofs. If I remember right, they were all found in an envelope of somebody whose relative worked for the lithographer back in the day. Peter Calderon or Doug Allen might be able to give clearer details, but that is my recollection. It was originally auctioned by Mastro Auctions at the time.
JimB

P.S. Here is how my E93 sheets from the same find are displayed.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5623/e93sheetsinframe.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/e93sheetsinframe.jpg/)

gabrinus
06-07-2010, 10:11 PM
That is great info.....that is what makes Net54 great..thanks again..amazing.

Leon
06-07-2010, 10:13 PM
Jim- I really like how you framed the sheets. Very nice.

chaddurbin
06-07-2010, 10:14 PM
i LOVE your full sheet jim. knew u had it but not sure if you wanted it be known, like the other 90% of your collection besides the e93s/t206s.

i wish whomever didn't cut up all those sheets and put those e93s/e97s in individual SGC A holders...that sucked.

leaflover
06-10-2010, 03:45 PM
My cards from Goodwin arrived today. Very pleased! Still waiting for Legendary Auction winnings and they closed a week earlier. Why is that?

glchen
06-10-2010, 04:15 PM
Legendary is just very slow, so you'll be waiting a while. They received my check on June 4th, and the funds were withdrawn from my checking account on June 5th. I called them today, and they said that they weren't going to ship until June 17th since their policy is to wait at least 10 days after personal checks clear before shipping. I asked them why, and they said it's just their policy since inception.

JamesGallo
06-10-2010, 05:31 PM
Legendary is just very slow, so you'll be waiting a while. They received my check on June 4th, and the funds were withdrawn from my checking account on June 5th. I called them today, and they said that they weren't going to ship until June 17th since their policy is to wait at least 10 days after personal checks clear before shipping. I asked them why, and they said it's just their policy since inception.

This is a standard business procedure and I can't blame them for that. Generally if it is someone that has done business with me in the past or if it's a small amount I will just ship it, but of all things this isn't something to get pissy about.

I won several cards in SCP including the Boston Store Sisler, the Tom Baker Joe Jackson which I stole and the Zeenut McMullen which I can't believe sold so cheaply.

James G

glchen
06-10-2010, 08:39 PM
Yea, I guess so, but it seems slow when other auction houses ship a lot faster. Huggins Scott, which closed around the same time, has already shipped my win, and they only waited about a day after my check cleared. The amounts are different (~1K for Huggins/Scott and a little over 4K at Legendary).

I think your wins are from Mile High and not SCP, which hasn't closed quite yet.

Blunder19
06-10-2010, 09:10 PM
i got my goodwin card today.. i opened the fed ex box... to find a smaller fed ex box... i opened the smaller fed ex box... to find a fed ex envelope... i opened the envelope to find a bubble envelope... finally I found my card...

I appreciate shipping secure but it actually became funny. the 4th packaging is where I started to laugh out loud. :)

Thanks Goodwin. for the card and the laughs..

ullmandds
06-10-2010, 09:26 PM
Jamie...I had the same experience...kinda funny...but kinda ridiculous!!

Blunder19
06-10-2010, 10:45 PM
agreed.. more laughing at goodwin.. then with them...

wonder what stopped them from going with the 5th box inside a box. I thought 4 was a little to easy to get to my card.:rolleyes:

chaddurbin
06-10-2010, 11:03 PM
we should encourage overpacking...not under.

scooter729
06-11-2010, 06:45 AM
It would have been very ironic if it was packed like that, and this was the item you had won...

Epps
06-11-2010, 08:11 AM
Congrats on the pickup of the McMullen. I was goning to run it up but decided to wait for a nicer looking one. Congratulations on it though. It's a tough card.