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bobbvc
05-24-2010, 09:46 PM
I was looking for some cards to post in the "just show some cards" thread, and came up with these. Thought I'd do an unofficial contest instead. I recently sent these in to SGC. (couple months ago). 1st poster to correctly guess all 6 final SGC grades gets a free copy of the book "How to Make Pro Scouts Notice You" by Al Goldis and John Wolff. It's a cool book. Postage on me. FYI, all backs are very clean. Let the guessing begin....
oh yeah, only one guess per board member...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3613/3675100329_0fb69541bc_b.jpg

cliftons8
05-24-2010, 09:49 PM
All Authentic but trimmed.

Mike

bobbvc
05-24-2010, 10:00 PM
I have an extra copy of the book and want to give it away, so here is a hint. One of these 6 cards came back as trimmed. The other 5 have numerical grades.

Ease
05-24-2010, 10:13 PM
Jones 40, Lake 40, Pelty 40, Abstein 50, Criss A, Dineen 60
Thanx for the contest!

3-2-count
05-24-2010, 10:16 PM
I'll play:
Jones - 40
Lake - 50
Pelty - 40
Abstein - 60
Criss - Trimmed
Dineen - 60
If the backs have no paper loss of course....

bobbvc
05-24-2010, 10:20 PM
Very clean backs- no paper loss...

Fred
05-24-2010, 10:24 PM
Lake = Tr
Jones = 50
Pelty = 40
Dineen = 50
Criss = 30
Abstein = 60

Robextend
05-24-2010, 10:44 PM
Jones: 40
Lake: 40
Pelty: 30
Abstein: Trim
Criss: 30
Dineen: 40

Vol
05-24-2010, 10:48 PM
Jones--40
Lake--30
Pelty-A
Abstein-60
Criss--30
Dineen--50

Feel like I am off on two of them. Tough challenge!

bobbvc
05-24-2010, 10:55 PM
Isaac- Not to be rude, and more as a hint to future guessers.. You got None of them right...

fkw
05-24-2010, 11:02 PM
Jones - 50
Lake - 60
Pelty - 40
Abstein - 70
Criss - Trimmed
Dineen - 60

chaddurbin
05-24-2010, 11:02 PM
building my hobby street cred...

jones-trimmed
lake-50
pelty-40
abstein-70
criss-50
dineen-50

i've intentionally left one incorrect so i wouldn't win the book

David R
05-24-2010, 11:19 PM
Jones 50
Lake 40
Pelty 40
Abstein 70
Criss Trim
Dineen 60

Wahoowa
05-24-2010, 11:28 PM
Jones - 30
Lake - 50
Pelty - 40
Abstein - 50
Criss - Trim
Dineen - 60

jrog007
05-24-2010, 11:29 PM
Jones-50
Lake-50
Pelty-40
Abstein-80
Criss-A
Dineen-70

JP
05-24-2010, 11:32 PM
Jones - trimmed
Lake - 20
Pelty - 20
Abstein - 20
Criss - 20
Dineen - 20

I'm thinking outside of the box...

FUBAR
05-24-2010, 11:45 PM
Jones- 50
Lake- 50
Pelty- 30
Abstain- trimmed
Criss- 40
Dineen- 40

perezfan
05-25-2010, 12:27 AM
Jones 50
Lake 40
Pelty 30
Abstein 50
Criss 40
Dineen Auth

teetwoohsix
05-25-2010, 01:21 AM
Jones= 50

Lake= 50

Pelty= 40

Dineen= A

Criss= 40

Abstein= 50

Thanks for the contest !!

Clayton

Bosox Blair
05-25-2010, 01:52 AM
All Authentic but trimmed.

Mike

Yeah, don't know if it is Bobby's scanner that is the problem, but the only card of that whole lot that does not look trimmed to me is Pelty. Every other card looks trimmed on the top border. If that scan was for raw cards for sale, I would not touch any of them.

Cheers,
Blair

martin neal
05-25-2010, 04:27 AM
Okey Dokey,

Jones 50
Lake 50
Pelty 40
Abstein 70
Criss A
Dineen 60

nebboy
05-25-2010, 07:23 AM
Jones - 50
Lake - 60
Pelty - 50
Abstein - trimmed
Criss - 50
Dineen - 60

ullmandds
05-25-2010, 07:23 AM
Lake A
Jones 50
Pelty 40
Abstein 50
Criss 20
Dineen 40

Robextend
05-25-2010, 07:29 AM
Yeah, don't know if it is Bobby's scanner that is the problem, but the only card of that whole lot that does not look trimmed to me is Pelty. Every other card looks trimmed on the top border. If that scan was for raw cards for sale, I would not touch any of them.

Cheers,
Blair

That was my original thought as well...this better not be a trick!! :)

williamcohon
05-25-2010, 07:35 AM
I dunno, but here goes:

50, tr, 30, 50, 40, 40

bobbvc
05-25-2010, 08:33 AM
There are no tricks and the scans are very accurate. Going to help out a little here. Criss came back trimmed and Dineen got a 60. Contest re-opened to all if you want to make a second guess. Thanks for playing. Reminds me of the pick-six at Del Mar.

Robextend
05-25-2010, 08:39 AM
Jones: 40
Lake: 40
Pelty: 30
Abstein: 70
Criss: Trim
Dineen: 60

nebboy
05-25-2010, 08:40 AM
Jones - 60
Lake - 60
Pelty - 40
Abstein - 60
Criss - A-trimmed
Dineen - 60

2nd guess - thanks for the hints!

GoldenAge50s
05-25-2010, 08:48 AM
60-50-40
60-a-60

quinnsryche
05-25-2010, 08:58 AM
50/40/40/60/tr/60

Wahoowa
05-25-2010, 09:03 AM
Second try:

Jones - 30
Lake - 50
Pelty - 40
Abstein - 70
Criss - Trim
Dineen - 60

JasonL
05-25-2010, 09:05 AM
That is the first time I have ever seen the Abstein card. Wow. That is a disturbing image for some reason. Off center to the left, and where is he looking? Freaky unsettling for some reason!:p:o

jrog007
05-25-2010, 09:22 AM
Jones-50
Lake-50
Pelty-40
Abstein-70
Criss-A
Dineen-60

perezfan
05-25-2010, 09:51 AM
50
50
40
50
Trim
60

Editing to say I think I see a faint crease on Abstein, making it a 50

DJR
05-25-2010, 09:55 AM
.

Ease
05-25-2010, 09:58 AM
Jones 40, Lake 40, Pelty 40, Abstein 50, Criss A, Dineen 60
Thanx for the contest!

since it's re-opened...
Jones 40, Lake 50, Pelty 30, Abstein 50, Criss A, Dineen 60

vintagetoppsguy
05-25-2010, 10:37 AM
Jones - 50
Lake - 50
Pelty - 30
Abstein - 70
Criss - trimmed
Dineen - 60


Thanks!

canjond
05-25-2010, 10:58 AM
Jones - Trimmed
Lake - Trimmed
Pelty - Trimmed
Abstein - 60
Criss - Trimmed
Dineen - 50

T206Collector
05-25-2010, 11:03 AM
...the "trick" is that all of them were deemed trimmed by PSA, but that SGC only nailed one of them for being trimmed. The grades are really secondary.

tbob
05-25-2010, 01:58 PM
Yeah, don't know if it is Bobby's scanner that is the problem, but the only card of that whole lot that does not look trimmed to me is Pelty. Every other card looks trimmed on the top border. If that scan was for raw cards for sale, I would not touch any of them.

Cheers,
Blair

I agree with Blair.
Jones - Trimmed but with large top border probably got a 60.
Lake - Trimmed (see Abstein)
Pelty - 30
Abstein - Trimmed. If this card didn't come back from SGC as authentic, I have a lot of cards like it with "bat earred" corners like this one residing in SGC AUT holders which I guess I need to resubmit :mad:
Criss - Trimmed (see Abstein)
Dineen - Trimmed (see Abstein)

Mikehealer
05-25-2010, 02:56 PM
50,50,40,70,a,60

cfc1909
05-25-2010, 02:58 PM
not sure what the grades are but this is what they should have been
Pelty-SGC 40 maybe 30
rest -authentic-trimmed

AndrewJerome
05-25-2010, 03:26 PM
Pelty 40
Jones 50
Lake 50
Abstein 60
Criss A
Dineen 60


Andrew

oldmancards
05-25-2010, 04:12 PM
Jones -- A
Lake -- 40
Pelty -- 30
Abstein -- 50
Criss -- 30
Dineen -- 40

Bob

3-2-count
05-25-2010, 05:18 PM
Okay. Time to let the cat out of the bag........ ;)

E93
05-25-2010, 05:50 PM
They all look trimmed to me. The only one I would want to take a closer look at for the possibility of not being trimmed is Pelty. If it is not trimmed, I would give it a 40/3
JimB

ullmandds
05-25-2010, 06:03 PM
I agree in that most if not all look trimmed...let the pigeons loose...spill the beans already...then you can keep the book!

bobbvc
05-25-2010, 08:06 PM
The people have spoken. Time's up! Some background. I bought a lot of approx. 15 St. Louis T206's about 12 years ago from an auction listed in SCD. Claimed grades were vg-ex/mt. This was before scanned images were a near-requirement.The 5 St. Louis cards here were part of that lot. The Abstein came from a dealer (now net 54 board member) about the same time period (late 90's). When I sent these in with about 15 other T206's I expected a few more TRM'ed. A couple of you got close.

Jones- 60
Lake- 50
Pelty- 50
Abstein- 50
Criss- TRM (no slab)
Dineen- 60

I learned a little about third party grading, hope you did too. If anyone wants the book, let me know. (postage on you). Thanks for playing!!

Bosox Blair
05-25-2010, 08:09 PM
Wow - I gotta get me an Exacto knife...

Cheers,
Blair

Bridwell
05-25-2010, 09:25 PM
For those who are big SGC fans, note that they were overly generous grading this lot! Maybe SGC suffers from the same inconsistency problem as PSA.

Ron

fkw
05-25-2010, 09:29 PM
The Criss is obviously short, the others all looked good to me.

Couple even have diamond cuts, why would someone trim a card and do that??

Bridwell
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
In the early days of grading, I saw a lot of these. Some dealers thought they could hide one bad corner, and get a high grade by simulating the diamond cut. PSA often rejects these now if the borders aren't parallel.

Ron R