Robert Edwards Auction

[Yankeefan51]

Once again, the world's most impressive baseball memorabilia auction was a gathering ground for the hobby's premiere collectors. REA brings out the
competitive fire inside all of us. It was truly a fun event.

Unfortunately, we were not not very lucky last evening. We only won one lot, despite aggressively bidding on 16 lots. We were surprised that the Tattoo Orbit advertising piece doubled an guesstimate that Rob shared with us, and truly stunned by the $18,000 price tag for the Buffalo Fed League pennant. To the best of our knowledge that is 6x more than a Fed League
pennant had ever sold for.

Looking forward to hearing who won what.

Our single win was the Landis-Cobb photo.
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=14536

Best,


Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

[Rich Klein]

Your insights into the very high end market are always appreciated

Rich

[chiprop]

Once again, the world's most impressive baseball memorabilia auction was a gathering ground for the hobby's premiere collectors. REA brings out the
competitive fire inside all of us. It was truly a fun event.

Unfortunately, we were not not very lucky last evening. We only won one lot, despite aggressively bidding on 16 lots. We were surprised that the Tattoo Orbit advertising piece doubled an guesstimate that Rob shared with us, and truly stunned by the $18,000 price tag for the Buffalo Fed League pennant. To the best of our knowledge that is 6x more than a Fed League
pennant had ever sold for.

Looking forward to hearing who won what.

Our single win was the Landis-Cobb photo.
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=14536

Best,


Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

6x? Jeff L- this may need some of your investigative skills!

I thought, once again, that some stuff went cheap like the t208s and some was in outerspace like the Boston store Ruth and the Drum Johnson both in the $30k range.

[Bill Stone]

I thought the T210 Jackson @ $95,000 and T210 Stengel @ $20,000 were about right but I was stunned by the $18,000 for the 1914 Buffalo Federal League pennant . I thought my early bid on that item was excessive -boy was I wrong !

[bobbyw8469]

Got outbid for a lot I really wanted at 3 AM....while the auction says it is not geared towards people who can stay up the latest, it sure seems like it is....:confused:

[seablaster]

I struck out unfortunately.

I hope a board member picked up the Jimmy Collins cabinet. I would've loved to have picked up that lot and the Fatima premium.

I'm looking forward to hearing how everyone else fared.

[e107collector]

I went 1 for 3, here is my only winning.

How did everyone else do?

[e107collector]

I thought the T210 Jackson @ $95,000 and T210 Stengel @ $20,000 were about right but I was stunned by the $18,000 for the 1914 Buffalo Federal League pennant . I thought my early bid on that item was excessive -boy was I wrong !


I agree with you Bill. I thought the SGC 40 Plank at $50,000 w/o the BP went a little cheap. Just my opinion.

Tony

[HercDriver]

I only track T202s and I definitely noticed a softer market in T202 singles than in past auctions. REA normally beats the "book" price by a wide margin, but that wasn't the case this time around. Did anybody notice that trend on any other of the popular sets?

Take Care,
Geno

[bcbgcbrcb]

My biggest priority was the Sol White cabinet card but $17.5 was out of my price range........

[Bobsbats]

Nice pickup Tony.....

[calvindog]

6x? Jeff L- this may need some of your investigative skills!



Ha! Maybe you consigned it and you and one of your friends had a bidding party?

[Matt]

The Plow's Candy Collins was the only thing I really wanted and it went a few thousand more then I wanted to go. I couldn't justify paying the condition premium.

http://natalieowl.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/authentic-new-york-bagel.jpg

[shammus]

Guys, I went ahead and merged the two "REA pickup threads" into one thread for us.....

For myself, I won three things either alone or with teams. Both e103 lots will be headed my way and I also won a large stake in the massive e93 lot - the one with 81 cards, 44 HOFers and 5 Wagners....

[M's_Fan]

This is my first Old Judge! I have a crazy goal of getting just one card from each HOFer in this set. This may never happen due to how expensive that would be, but to try will be fun.

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/All%20Time%20Greats/ward.jpg?t=1272808802

[David Atkatz]

As a NY Yankee collector 1903-1927, I am happy to have won this:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=14546

[kcohen]

This is my first Old Judge! I have a crazy goal of getting just one card from each HOFer in this set. This may never happen due to how expensive that would be, but to try will be fun. [/IMG]

Beautiful card and a great start M's Fan. I empathize with your "craziness." I'm pleased to say that this OJ Robinson was the last card I needed to complete the goal of having one pose of each HOFer. I'd say it took me about 8 years. Hopefully I'll be able to resist the temptation of setting another goal.

Ken

[ullmandds]

Feeling like I overpaid...but I DID win my first REA lot...the T208 strunk!
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13288

[Leon]

Feeling like I overpaid...but I DID win my first REA lot...the T208 strunk!
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13288

Pete- I don't think you overpaid. That was a nice card. Congrats. I picked up a few things but mainly just an upgrade for my current T205 Hindu. regards

[insidethewrapper]

I hope my invoice is wrong , it states $ 1000.00 shipping for 2 small items I won. MUst be a mistake.

[botn]

I know Rob gave fair warning about the possibility of the auction closing anytime after 11PM EST but bids were coming in at 100 every 18 to 20 minutes for a few hours before the Rob shut it down. And if you look at the Recent Bids you see several big ticket items being in play several minutes prior to it closing. I know the guy has to sleep but seemed premature based on what I could see. Only 5 minutes had passed without a bid.

[Matt]

I hope my invoice is wrong , it states $ 1000.00 shipping for 2 small items I won. MUst be a mistake.

Standard practice for most houses is to automatically put a huge # on everyone's invoice then go back and make it the correct amount on a person by person basis. It will be fixed (unless what you won was Obama's Jeep).

[paul]

Best night ever for me. I have started a separate thread about the Thorpe. I'll be trying to post it as many times as possible!!!!!

[DavidW]

Happy to have "purchased" my first choice out of some 16 cards I bid on.
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13124_1.jpg

[perezfan]

Once again, the world's most impressive baseball memorabilia auction was a gathering ground for the hobby's premiere collectors. REA brings out the
competitive fire inside all of us. It was truly a fun event.

Unfortunately, we were not not very lucky last evening. We only won one lot, despite aggressively bidding on 16 lots. We were surprised that the Tattoo Orbit advertising piece doubled an guesstimate that Rob shared with us, and truly stunned by the $18,000 price tag for the Buffalo Fed League pennant. To the best of our knowledge that is 6x more than a Fed League
pennant had ever sold for.

Looking forward to hearing who won what.

Our single win was the Landis-Cobb photo.
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=14536

Best,


Bruce Dorskind
America's Toughest Want List

The statement about the Buffalo Pennant selling for 6 X more than a past Federal League Pennant had sold for is completely wrong. Below is a link to a Baltimore Terrapins that previously sold for over $13,750. Others have sold for between 5 -10K as well.

Still an amazing price realized for the Buffalo piece...

http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid=23572

[calvindog]

I know Rob gave fair warning about the possibility of the auction closing anytime after 11PM EST but bids were coming in at 100 every 18 to 20 minutes for a few hours before the Rob shut it down. And if you look at the Recent Bids you see several big ticket items being in play several minutes prior to it closing. I know the guy has to sleep but seemed premature based on what I could see. Only 5 minutes had passed without a bid.

I agree. I think the problem is that the extended bidding session (12 hours) has normally ended around 3:45 am EST for the past few years, so bidders are not really getting serious now until around 2:30 am or so, knowing that Rob will shut it down at the 3:45 or so time. I won three lots last night and on two of them I didn't put my second bid in until about 3:22 am, knowing that I was safe. When one of the lots got into a bidding war at that time, I was worried that the auction would close down without any notice at around 3:45. My last bid was placed about 10 seconds after the other guy at around 3:42 am and I was happy to have won it.

[wolterse]

Is it just me or did others half expect the bidding to still be taking place by time they woke up this morning? :p

I think I did OK. Had several bids in and was happy to walk away with these

[3-2-count]

Jeff, I have a feeling I was up against you last night on one of your winnings.
Would one of them be senior Chase?? It was a beauty!!!

[calvindog]

The M110? Yes, that was me.

[3-2-count]

Great pick up. Will fit your collection nicely!

[glchen]

Standard practice for most houses is to automatically put a huge # on everyone's invoice then go back and make it the correct amount on a person by person basis. It will be fixed (unless what you won was Obama's Jeep).


Thank goodness someone else got a $1000 S/H charge. I saw this on my invoice after I won one lot last night, and I was going to have a meltdown if this was the charge. (I didn't win the Jeep either. :) )

[3-2-count]

My shipping shows a "Grand" to. I wouldn't sweat it. It will be corrected.

[ubiqty]

Hey Tony A.,
How are you? Can you guess which one I won?
Scott (ubiqty)

[MVSNYC]

my lone win...1951 New York Yankees World Champions Team-Signed Ball with DiMaggio and Mantle.

[Matt]

Can you guess which one I won?
Scott (ubiqty)

Scott - did you pick this up? Nice card!
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13170_1.jpg

[Kawika]

Won the three items I really wanted plus one of the '53 Topps artwork cards. Also partnered successfully on a lot which I am not at liberty to divulge yet. In general I was pleasantly surprised that the bidding, at least on my cards, wasn't as ferocious as I feared it might be. The M110 Cobb, une pièce de résistance without the resistance, just the way I like 'em, is the same card for which I battled and lost two years ago and which came a whole lot cheaper this time. Likewise I wondered why an N173, with Roger Connor on it no less, had zero activity in OT. Too much nice stuff in one auction? Too many strapped collectors in this economy? Don't know but for some of us, me included, last night at REA was Fat City.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/Item_13276_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/Item_13185_1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/Item_13152_1.jpg

[Bicem]

Amazing David - 3 of my favorites in the entire auction!

[Bosox Blair]

I know a lot of folks comment that REA can be a relatively expensive place to buy - and there are certainly plenty of lots that demonstrate that.

But did anyone note any "bargains" in REA this time?

From my perspective, the lots added at the end (they were not in the print catalog) were fertile hunting ground. This included some nice mid-grade Dockmans. My theory is that these got overlooked by bidders (the Dockmans that were illustrated in the catalog got strong prices - the Wagner throwing, SGC 40, went well over VCP). A late consignor put in a horde of E-cards...including several lots of Dockmans. I know Dockmans are not "rare" cards, but many of these late-added lots went for quite a bit under VCP. A couple of these lots would have been great dealer break lots.

Also (on the subject of the flip), I bought the high grade '39 Moe Berg for $500+juice this time - this is the exact card that REA sold one year ago for $700+juice (a fact that was noted in the write-up).

Cheers,
Blair

[Bicem]

I thought the d380 Joss was a good buy, thought about another bid at the end but didn't pull the trigger. I'm sure I'll regret that.

Also thought the 1891 Conly Studio cabinets went cheap.

On the other end, this for $9400 is crazy...

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13623_1.jpg

Someone really overpaid for the e107 Keeler too.

[lharri3600]

Rea lot 260

[3-2-count]

Hi Scott,
I think I know exactly which one you won. Would the first name be Honus and the last Wagner?? ;)
And no, not the T206......:D

[triwak]

Lost out on both lots I wanted: The 1869 Red Stocking CDV ($11,750) and the Wheeling Imperial cabinet with Sol White ($17,625), both with juice.

Yeah Phil, I figured you'd be after the Wheeling cabinet! Sorry you didn't get it. I was also surprised how high it went.

[rhettyeakley]

I picked up lot #44--Nice N172 Louisville Wolf and uncatalogued 1890 "NL" version of Mullane kinda hidden in there (amongst some other stuff).
http://www.starsofthediamond.com/Item_13131_3.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/Item_13131_4.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/Item_13131_2.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/Item_13131_1.jpg

[jmk59]

Wow Jeff. I didn't notice that that Ruth had gone for that much. You're right. It seems crazy even considering that the card appears from the scan to be a great candidate for a grade bump.

J

[benchod]

That Ruth #53 only makes sense if you can have a wrinkle removed, resubmit and voila a 7 or 8 appears on the flip

[calvindog]

That Ruth was a card that Peter S was after; that explains the high price. :)

[quinnsryche]

Amazing how thw the words "cheap" and "deal" are used for single cards that cost more than my first house! Don't let the media know about the prices realized in this auction or the "recession" will be officially over. I never new there were so many multi-millionaires in this hobby, I can't even afford the buyer's premium on 99% of these items.:(
Congrats to all the winners & enjoy!

[M's_Fan]

I took the plunge into T205's with this card.

Its funny, before this auction I admired the T205's, but never felt compelled to buy one.

But for some reason this card came a callin'... Now I'm thinking a T205 HOF set might be in order.

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/All%20Time%20Greats/speaker.jpg?t=1272825272

[benchod]

That's a beautiful Speaker

[M's_Fan]

That's a beautiful Speaker

Thanks! My first T205 is a bit of a tough act to follow. I plan on being in the SGC 40-60 range from here on out in this set.

[e107collector]

My invoice just updated, and it now reflects the correct amount for shipping.

Tony

[collectbaseball]

Thank goodness someone else got a $1000 S/H charge. I saw this on my invoice after I won one lot last night, and I was going to have a meltdown if this was the charge. (I didn't win the Jeep either. :) )

Mine showed the same $1000 and now it's down to $35... much more palatable. Now I just have to figure out how to scrape together some cash to pay for it all...

[calvindog]

David, those are incredible pickups. It's uncanny, but in every auction we seem to have almost the identical taste in cards.

And PS, my birthday is next month. My favorite color is M110.

[Kawika]

Jeff: A recurring nightmare I have is that I will finally go off my nut and murder one of the rectal orifices in my life, you will fly out to Honolulu to defend me but that it will cost me the '14 CJ Matty, the signed '34 Goudey Gehrig and the D304 Cobb. And that would just be your retainer.

http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_o_ka_pakipika/bbbofsfirstclass/miscellanybaseball/websize/Item_13962_1.jpg

[Brian Weisner]

Hi David,
Adam is closer than Jeff.... And he doesn't have the same Cobb fetish .... So most of your cards of safe, except maybe the boxers....
Be well Brian


PS Serenity now.....

[cfc1909]

if you won the red Hindus in REA-I would be interested in the Doc Crandall.:D

[benchod]

[QUOTE=calvindog;804323]David, those are incredible pickups. It's uncanny, but in every auction we seem to have almost the identical taste in cards.

+1
Great pickups David. Love the Cobb, and Kelly.
I think you got the Connor for a steal especially compared to the Keefe

[tbob]

Someone got a terrific deal on the E94 Speaker with Bloom overprinted back. I thought I had it for a steal but alas. Congrats to whomever won it. If the winner of the large T210 lot is thinking of breaking it up, please let me know and I might be able to help up recoup some of your investment on Series 3,5 and 6 cards.
tbob

[Pup6913]

I took the plunge into T205's with this card.

Its funny, before this auction I admired the T205's, but never felt compelled to buy one.

But for some reason this card came a callin'... Now I'm thinking a T205 HOF set might be in order.

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/All%20Time%20Greats/speaker.jpg?t=1272825272

Well you missed a very high grade Johnson that I am sure went for 1/2 price.

[Pup6913]

As far as wins I didn't even win the 2 lots I wanted. Might have to do with the extremely low price my card sold for. As a matter a fact I was told by REA that they always got the best prices because they have buyers that wait all year to buy. Just my luck I declined a $9800 offer for it on Ebay to sell it for $5000 on REA because they are the best.:mad: Hell I would give 25% of what it sold for just to get it back. Oh well I guess I learned my lesson that if you want to lose money on a card consign it to an auction house so massive that even some of the better cards in the hobby are pushed to the back and shadowed by the monsters:eek:

[tennisguy]

The E107 Keeler is a sweet card, but 22K+ I couldn't believe!!

[calvindog]

Jeff: A recurring nightmare I have is that I will finally go off my nut and murder one of the rectal orifices in my life, you will fly out to Honolulu to defend me but that it will cost me the '14 CJ Matty, the signed '34 Goudey Gehrig and the D304 Cobb. And that would just be your retainer.


Hmm...Before the bail hearing, I'd probably stop at your house with a large truck which I'd back up to your baseball card room. :) And yes, that M110 Cobb and the 14 Matty would be the first to go!

[Wesley]

What is the story behind the PSA 6 T210 Casey Stengel card?

In the October 2009 Heritage auction, the Stengel sold for $48,995.

http://sports.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=716&Lot_No=81006&src=pr#

Last night in REA, the very same Stengel sold for $23,500.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=13257


Looks like the winner got a very good deal last night on the Stengel, but the consignor lost more than half his money in six months.

[Mrc32]

Oh well I guess I learned my lesson that if you want to lose money on a card consign it to an auction house so massive that even some of the better cards in the hobby are pushed to the back and shadowed by the monsters:eek:

Andrew- I'm sorry that happened to you. Your card is awesome. I think there is certainly some truth to what you said. This was one stacked auction.

[T206DK]

That really sucks about your card Andrew. My opinion on REA's auction is that there were so many lots and because it's only a once a year gig.....some cards get overshadowed. That T210 Stengel card's price was way low in my opinion. the buyer of that card got a true deal. I also think the buyer of the two large N172 lots got good deals there too. I wonder how many bidders participated this time around ?

[ubiqty]

Matt and Tony,

Congrats to everyone who won something.

It was a good night for me. I won the e90-1 Wagner PSA 4 and the Hoy. They were my #1 and #2 hopes. If the person who won the ER Williams game wants to deal the Hoy, please let me know.

And the quest continues.

Scott (ubiqty)

[Touch'EmAll]

Major HOF'ers T206 in PSA 5 & 6 had some very high final prices.

with buyers premium:
Cobb - red PSA 5 - $3,525. ............way over SMR
Cobb - bat on PSA 5 - $3,525. ...........over SMR
W.Johnson - hands chest PSA 5 - 1,880. .........over SMR
Cobb - green PSA 5 - $6,462. ............way over SMR
Cobb - green PSA 6 - $14,100. ...........way over SMR
Matty - portrait PSA 6 - $3,525.
Cy Young - portrait PSA 5 - $3,819. ........super way much over SMR
Matty - dark cap PSA 6 - $3,525. ..........way over SMR

Three weeks ago I had listed on ebay a T206 Cobb green PSA 5 (outstanding centering) listed for $5,200. - nobody bought - scratch head - then this Cobb green PSA 5 goes for nearly $6,500. hmmm.

And that Cy Young portrait PSA 5 at over $3,800. - WOW !!!

steve

[caramelcard]

Unfortunately lost out on the T204 lot of 24 with a low grade Johnson.

Would've put a big dent in my set. Maybe next time.

Nice auction.

[Al C.risafulli]

I was absolutely thrilled to win lot #1150 - the 1867 Bernards Base Ball Club of Basking Ridge, NJ Scorebook.

It's an absolutely amazing look into the history of baseball in New Jersey, IMO, and an incredible piece that's traveled more than a century through the State's baseball culture, includes game scores from 1867 through 1980, a number of great autographs, and a bunch of news clippings that chronicle the journey that this book has taken throughout the years.

Given the Elysian Fields game happened in 1846 and this book is from 1867, I can't imagine that there are many surviving pieces of NJ baseball memorabilia that are older than this one.

Best part: I won it for the opening bid.

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_14267_1.jpg

-Al

[Jantz]

I didn't bid, so nothing to show. Although I have been given the opportunity to go through a few lots that were won by a dealer/acquaintance.

Nice pickup on the Cobb/Landis photo Bruce.

By the way.....welcome back.

Jantz

[shammus]

Hi Rob,

I was thinking the same thing on the 23 t204s. I ended up being the underbidder on that one so I could focus on the e103s. Nice group, someone got a pretty good deal there....

[Jacklitsch]

Someone really overpaid for the e107 Keeler too.

:confused:
Really???

[dstudeba]

Wow Larry, no scrubs in that lot!

[Bicem]

:confused:
Really???

yes?

[M's_Fan]

I ended up winning this lot of 5 classic post-war cards, which I'm quite pleased about:

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/All%20Time%20Greats/mantlelot.jpg

http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv82/3fingerbrown/All%20Time%20Greats/koufaxlot.jpg

[ethicsprof]

bid on one.
lost on one.
just fell asleep, as usual.
a fabulous auction. Rob L is top drawer!

congrats to the winners!!
best,
barry

[bobbyw8469]

Hey M's fan!! I liked that lot, but thought it went kinda high based upon past selling prices....you probably would have done better picking them off one by one on Ebay.....

[M's_Fan]

Hey M's fan!! I liked that lot, but thought it went kinda high based upon past selling prices....you probably would have done better picking them off one by one on Ebay.....

I appreciate the honest input. At a total of $2925 for this lot #635, I figured based on current eBay prices that this price was about the same as the eBay auction value of each of these cards. Maybe I overestimated eBay prices by some. These were all cards I wanted, so I did save some time by snagging the whole lot. I knew I wasn't getting a deal, but 'm okay with the price.

[uffda51]

I was shut out, on nine different lots. :(

Oh, well, now I've got more $ to spend at the National.

[wonkaticket]

M's Fan I think you did great, auctions are not always about getting deals but getting something you want....think of it as a day at the spa for dudes...go ahead treat yourself. :)

The 54 Hank looks great as does the 53 Mantle nice lot.

[Griffins]

M's Fan I think you did great, auctions are not always about getting deals but getting something you want....think of it as a day at the spa for dudes.

John, you may have just provided the comeback that will save a few marriages. thank you!

[T206Collector]

think of it as a day at the spa for dudes...go ahead treat yourself.

Indeed!

[terjung]

The E107 Keeler is a sweet card, but 22K+ I couldn't believe!!

You and me both, Ryan. Sale price was $21,150, but still...
Somebody wanted that one very badly.

[three25hits]

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13314_1.jpghttp://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13314_2.jpg

[Leon]

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13314_1.jpghttp://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13314_2.jpg


Brian- had I not had a type 2 you would have had more competition. This is a great card you got at a really good price. I love it!! Congrats.

[three25hits]

Leon,

I am glad you and the other PCLers weren't bidding on this one, I am stunned at the price (but quite happy).

Yours is orange?

Brian

[Leon]

Leon,

I am glad you and the other PCLers weren't bidding on this one, I am stunned at the price (but quite happy).

Yours is orange?

Brian

Yes. There are 2 green type 2's known and 1 type 2 orange. (All type 2's only come in green or orange, as you know)....that red is awesome.

[three25hits]

I've seen one of the two green's. E100's are a very interesting set.



A good friend and I won this -- we are still discussing the joint custody agreement:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13249_2.jpg
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13249_3.jpg

[bbeck]

I have to agree with the other consignor regarding disappointing results. Consigned a 1/1 33 goudey (highest graded) that ended way below my expectations ($3,550 or so with the premium). Rob has great stuff but the catalog is so massive items do get overshadowed. In a smaller boutique auction house a similar card recently hit $7,000 with the premium. Another consignment also fell relatively flat. I usually pick Robert Edwards because it is in my backyard plus I can view every item. A couple of years back I gave them a Ruth signed photo which did okay but would have done much better if not for the exact same shot signed by Ruth included in the same auction. I did pick up the t207 SGC 60 Walter Johnson and the E120 Cobb. I think they were relatively fair deals.

[T206Collector]

A good friend and I won this -- we are still discussing the joint custody agreement

Weren't there 2 sheets -- can't you just flip a coin to see who gets which sheet?

Easy!

[Leon]

Weren't there 2 sheets -- can't you just flip a coin to see who gets which sheet?

Easy!

I am pretty sure it was one sheet. I would go for custody on the weekends. Then you can take it out partying, drinking and meeting girls and stuff :).

[Jim VB]

A good friend and I won this -- we are still discussing the joint custody agreement:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13249_2.jpg
http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/images_items/Item_13249_3.jpg



Alternate weekends. 4-6 weeks in the summer. Take turns on the big holidays.


Or,... there's always the King Solomon approach!

[WarHoundR69]

I got outbid on the Mickey Mouse & Movie Star set.

[brianp-beme]

Brian...if splitting up the Obak sheet I could use the Fitzgerald and Shinn...thanks! ;)


Brian

[oldjudge]

Jim--It's very interesting that on the sheets the margins between cards are not all the same width.

[E93]

Jim--It's very interesting that on the sheets the margins between cards are not all the same width.

That is one of the most interesting card-related observations I have heard (read) in a long time.
JimB
P.S. They are also not all the same height.

[Jim VB]

That is one of the most interesting card-related observations I have heard (read) in a long time.
JimB
P.S. They are also not all the same height.



Joe D would know this better than I do, but all of the type-setting and layout for this would have been done strictly by hand and that might account for differences in variations of the margins.

I know years ago, the department store I worked for still set up and pasted up, all our ads in house. If a copy block and/or photo slipped while being transported to the newspaper, well, they printed it that way.



(Tim - Better?)

[Abravefan11]

Joe D would know this better than I do, but all of the type-setting and layout for this been done strictly by hand and that might account for differences in variations of the margins.

:eek:

[jmk59]

Brian - you can probably post that Obaks sheet as much as you want. I can't imagine I'd ever get tired of seeing it.

I think next year I need to go into REA with a bit more of a plan - some specific target items ahead of time and then a large group of fall-back items. Usually I just bid on things I like in general and see what happens in Extended Time.

J

[three25hits]

That is one of the most interesting card-related observations I have heard (read) in a long time.
JimB
P.S. They are also not all the same height.

I have some perspective on Obak centering and sizing that might be attributed to this. And not just on the 1909s. I might start a thread on it at some point.

There are also 3 and 5 card panels out there. I think Leon or Dan S might have a couple, if not others.

[e107collector]

I'm assuming that the PSA 8 Ty Cobb D304 that sold in Saturday's REA auction for $80,000 before the BP, was the same card that Goodwin sold about a year or so ago for $260,000.

Is this correct?

Tony

[iggyman]

I'm assuming that the PSA 8 Ty Cobb D304 that sold in Saturday's REA auction for $80,000 before the BP, was the same card that Goodwin sold about a year or so ago for $260,000.

Is this correct?

Tony

Tony,

Yikes! According to VCP it's one in the same. How do you write-off $160,000???

Lovely Day...


Correction.... the one in Goodwin sold for $272,980.00 with BP.... Double Yikes!!!

[collectbaseball]

I picked up this Cracker Jack lot along with some T205s. I thought the price of the lot was too good to resist... and I'm really hoping that PSA didn't miss a trim job on a few of these.

[Jim VB]

I'm assuming that the PSA 8 Ty Cobb D304 that sold in Saturday's REA auction for $80,000 before the BP, was the same card that Goodwin sold about a year or so ago for $260,000.

Is this correct?

Tony



Jeff, is that you????

[calvindog]

Don't worry, Jim, there are actually other people in the hobby that are concerned about some of the funny stuff that goes on in auctions. But I promise not to make any more trouble because I don't want to make you sad, ok?

Edited to add: And it actually sold for 273K. Sorry!

[e107collector]

Tony,

Yikes! According to VCP it's one in the same. How do you write-off $160,000???

Lovely Day...


Correction.... the one in Goodwin sold for $272,980.00 with BP.... Double Yikes!!!

Something doesn't look right with this picture!

[Blunder19]

Did a board member end up getting lot number 297?

i was willing to go up to 15K.. and that was already more then I could afford... but 20K after the premium was too rich for my blood..

if the winner is a board member I would be interested in several pieces.

Jamie

[Rob D.]

This card sort of jumped out at me when I first browsed the auction online, but I figured that it would sell for more than I wanted to pay. When I woke up on the couch at 3:30 a.m. Sunday and saw what it was at, I decided to enter one bid and one bid only. Luckily it was the high bid, and just as fortunately, Jeff P. decided not to pull the trigger again. Even though it's not a Lajoe, I'm pretty thrilled to add a card to my collection that I never thought I would.

[e107collector]

Rob,

That is a great card. Congrats

Tony

[gabrinus]

Tbob, I won the Speaker Blomes back you mentioned, along with the Wagner Blomes back, the 4 Clement bros. major leaguers, lot 173 mixed pre-war, and lot 326 t205s with 3 Mattys and 22 caramel cards. Underbidder on a few including the e97 set. Now have to hijack liquor truck to pay for this.

[Bicem]

Great Joss, had I known it was you I would have bid.

[Jim VB]

Great Joss, had I known it was you I would have bid.



And he's not kidding or being sarcastic!

[M's_Fan]

I did pick up the t207 SGC 60 Walter Johnson and the E120 Cobb. I think they were relatively fair deals.

So you were the fellow that outbid me by $100 on the T207 Johnson, nice card and congrats!

[bbeck]

So you were the fellow that outbid me by $100 on the T207 Johnson, nice card and congrats!


Thank you -I thought that was a great looking card for the grade.

[birdman42]

auctions are not always about getting deals but getting something you want....think of it as a day at the spa for dudes...go ahead treat yourself. :)

My wife would be looking for that $3,000 spa day... Heck, I could send her to the real Spa (in Belgium) for less than most of the lots y'all have shown here.

Bill

[tbob]

Tbob, I won the Speaker Blomes back you mentioned, along with the Wagner Blomes back, the 4 Clement bros. major leaguers, lot 173 mixed pre-war, and lot 326 t205s with 3 Mattys and 22 caramel cards. Underbidder on a few including the e97 set. Now have to hijack liquor truck to pay for this.


Jerry, congrats! Glad to see Speaker and Wagner going to a good home. I was really amazed at the final hammer prices. Nice pickups on the other cards also. You are back in to the card world bigtime! :D

[hcv123]

I was fighting pretty hard for the 1960 Kahn's lot of 53 with 3 Clemente's, but just less than hard enough. Anyone here win or happen to know who won it - really interested in the SGC 88 Clemente. If any of you out there happen to have rare or unusual Clemente items that you might consider selling (if for no other reason than helping to pay for all your REA winnings) please contact me. Congrats to all the winners.

-Howard

Ps. I know this is primarily a pre war thread, but it also seems that it is the most active REA thread.

[onlychild]

Lifson rocks! Auction ended Sun morning and my card arrived this morning. Just another one of the many reasons why I like REA. Hell my Heritage winnings still haven't arrived.

[ephus]

My only win from this auction. I have owned the batting version from this set before, this is my first throwing version Wagner.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p58/kelholt/wagnerthrow.jpg

[M's_Fan]

Beauty! For some reason, though I've seen this card many times (but not in person), your version made me notice the extraordinary colors in the sunset in the background. That's a looker!

[DICKTOWLE]

Did anybody out there buy the the four sets taped on paper, looking to partner up on the tape removel.:)

[DICKTOWLE]

[QUOTE=three25hits;804567]I've seen one of the two green's. E100's are a very interesting set.



A good friend and I won this -- we are still discussing the joint custody agreement:

Would you like these removed from the paper and glue stains, thanks

Dick towle

[Peter_Spaeth]

Dick are you still taking out paper wrinkles, I mean creases, I mean paper wrinkles?

[calvindog]

Pulls. And pinches too.

[ullmandds]

I just got my tracking # from REA...won't be long now!

[dstudeba]

Would you like these removed from the paper and glue stains, thanks

Dick towle

You do realize that is an uncut sheet right?

[botn]

You do realize that is an uncut sheet right?

Guess it won't be for long. How great is this hobby?

Besides how often do you go to barber and simply ask for a shampoo?

[DICKTOWLE]

Peter, again I can't thank you for the comment or question, God Bless, as life is too short, thank you sir.

[three25hits]

Guess it won't be for long. How great is this hobby?

I bought the sheet with someone else who is not Dick Towle.

The sheet will not be altered, harmed, cut, repaired or denigrated in any way.

[three25hits]

In post 123, Dick Towle attempted to quote me. He left out the [/QUOTE] resulting in my quote from post 88 running together with his post.


Post 123 should have read:

I've seen one of the two green's. E100's are a very interesting set.

A good friend and I won this -- we are still discussing the joint custody agreement:

His response is

Would you like these removed from the paper and glue stains, thanks

FYI.

[Mikehealer]

I paid on Monday and received my winnings today in Texas.

[Kawika]

FedEx pulled up around 7:30 this evening. Feels like Christmas all over again.
The Connor OJ cabinet is unreal and even the wife is swooning for Vinegar Bend.
http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgallery/memberfoldersko/kawika/baseballpickups/large/DMcD933.jpg

[JP]

Any consigners received their checks yet or is there a significant delay to be expected? I would think buyers have to pay before consigners get checks...

[glchen]

How do people pay and receive their winnings so fast? I mailed my personal check on Thursday (had to transfer money from my brokerage account first), and since I'm from California, the check probably won't arrive until late next week. Then it'll probably need 1-2 weeks to clear before REA can ship. Are most people paying by money order or cashier's check and sending payment via Priority Mail or something similar?

[Rob D.]

How do people pay and receive their winnings so fast? I mailed my personal check on Thursday (had to transfer money from my brokerage account first), and since I'm from California, the check probably won't arrive until late next week. Then it'll probably need 1-2 weeks to clear before REA can ship. Are most people paying by money order or cashier's check and sending payment via Priority Mail or something similar?

REA is known for, in many cases, shipping items before receiving payment.

[Bicem]

The artwork on the Mizell is amazing, good eye David!

[kcohen]

I mailed my check Monday and received my stuff yesterday (Friday). REA obviously doesn't wait for the check to clear before sending. Nice way to do business if you ask me.

[e107collector]

I dropped my check in the mail Sunday evening. My items were mailed Wed, my check cleared Friday.

It used to take Mastro around 3-4 weeks to ship my items, but Legendary is now a lot faster the last time a won an item.


Tony

[wolterse]

Yes, dropped my check in the mail on Monday afternoon, REA winnings arrived on Friday.

Bill Goodwin and B&L turn items around at a quick pace as well.

Legendary usually takes 3-4 weeks.

[slidekellyslide]

REA is known for, in many cases, shipping items before receiving payment.

Mastro did that too....and it bit them in the ass.

[iggyman]

Mastro did that too....and it bit them in the ass.

Correct me if I am wrong but Silk Road Equity (aka: Mastro) would send winning lots before payment only to the "Great Guys" in the hobby. If you weren't part of that VIP club, you got nothing until the check cleared. That policy is what bit them in the arse.

Lovely Day...

[slidekellyslide]

Correct me if I am wrong but Silk Road Equity (aka: Mastro) would send winning lots before payment only to the "Great Guys" in the hobby. If you weren't part of that VIP club, you got nothing until the check cleared. That policy is what bit them in the arse.

Lovely Day...

You'll have to refresh my memory on who the "Great Guys" are in this hobby...The two people who I've heard of who didn't pay for their items, but still received them were not connected to auction companies.

[calvindog]

Mastro had plenty of money to pay consignors regardless of what they claim was the reason for their inability to pay. They just chose not to pay consignors; unless, of course, you had your dogs bark on the phone at them or called the press (or had an ol' friend call on your behalf). Then suddenly the money appeared.

[slidekellyslide]

Mastro had plenty of money to pay consignors regardless of what they claim was the reason for their inability to pay. They just chose not to pay consignors; unless, of course, you had your dogs bark on the phone at them or called the press. Then suddenly the money appeared.

I'm sure that's entirely true...however sending out items that are not yet paid for is IMO not a good business practice.

[calvindog]

I hear you. But Rob seems to do ok. There's just a different level of trust between Rob and the great majority of his customer base. Rob has said that he's been stiffed by like 1 winner in the past few years. Imagine what Legendary, Mastro, Goodwin would claim during the same time period.

[iggyman]

You'll have to refresh my memory on who the "Great Guys" are in this hobby...

Dan,

I guess my definition of who belongs as a "great guy" in the hobby is a little bit more broader then just auction owners. With that said, I have no first-hand knowledge of what is an old discussion and would prefer not to get "calvindog" all riled-up ;).

I was just trying to draw a distinction between what Mastro might have done to keep a couple of bidders in the fold and what REA does as a matter of customer service.

Lovely Day...

[Rob D.]

I hear you. But Rob seems to do ok. There's just a different level of trust between Rob and the great majority of his customer base. Rob has said that he's been stiffed by like 1 winner in the past few years. Imagine what Legendary, Mastro, Goodwin would claim during the same time period.

If you assume that all of the major auction houses draw from the same pool of bidders, it seems strange that REA is rarely plagued by non-paying customers, yet other auctioneers are forced to resell numerous lots in seemingly every auction they hold because of not receiving payments.

[ichieh]

What was the outcome of FBI investigation on Mastro auction. Any charges filed? I know Mastro went out of business, but the executives were able to get out the sinking boat and started Legendary auction.

[benjulmag]

If you assume that all of the major auction houses draw from the same pool of bidders, it seems strange that REA is rarely plagued by non-paying customers, yet other auctioneers are forced to resell numerous lots in seemingly every auction they hold because of not receiving payments.

If you look at REA's auction results posted on their website, they will show a letter discussing the origins of baseball purportedly written by Henry Chadwick selling for $310,500 (lot 469 in 2004 auction) and a trophy ball of an 1858 Fashion course All-Star game match selling for $498,800 (lot 1 in the 2005 auction). Neither of these items were paid for and they were subsequently sold along with other material at a private auction in February 2009. So apparently the problem of non-paying winning bidders applies to REA as well, and is more widespread than comments on their website would indicate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

If items are not paid for, should auction houses disclose that so that a misleading impression is not created as to prices? For better or worse many of us rely on reported sales as a guide to market value.

[calvindog]

If items are not paid for, should auction houses disclose that so that a misleading impression is not created as to prices? For better or worse many of us rely on reported sales as a guide to market value.

Of course. And of course the auction houses with the plethora of cards allegedly not sold never provide this information -- except when they end up in the house's next auction or on ebay a few days later. Or at the National a week later.

[DJR]

.

[calvindog]

The main reason why auction houses would not publicize the fact that certain lots didn't sell despite appearing as sold is because they'd have to reveal hidden (illegal) reserves. It's a shame there's no Net 54 dinner at the National this year because, presuming Doug Allen's bellyache cleared up, he could shed some light on the topic of hidden reserves and how they affect the market.

[benjulmag]

The main reason why auction houses would not publicize the fact that certain lots didn't sell despite appearing as sold is because they'd have to reveal hidden (illegal) reserves. It's a shame there's no Net 54 dinner at the National this year because, presuming Doug Allen's bellyache cleared up, he could shed some light on the topic of hidden reserves and how they affect the market.

A letter not reaching its reserve at $310,500 and a ball not reaching it at $498,800?

[Topsy Hartsel]

This was one of those cards that I figured would be well out of reach for my collection. The grade wasn't the best but it is a great looking card. Best of all it is a Topsy Hartsel. Now if I could only find an E125 of Topsy.
1841818419

[Leon]

A letter not reaching its reserve at $310,500 and a ball not reaching it at $498,800?

I don't understand. The auction site says it sold?



Reserve $10,000. Estimate $20,000/$40,000. SOLD FOR $310,500.00