T204 Ramly

[cfc1909]

looked through some old threads on these and found some very interesting facts but would still like to rehash these a bit.
Is there a reason all the cards don't come with the T.T.T. back? From what I read there are about 55 card on the checklist with this back.

how many different backs are there?

Six cards with a square frame? and only 3 complete sets of these?

Have there been any new discoveries of these?
I guess that should get us started-I think Scott B and Bill C have/had complete sets of these and hope to hear from you and any others please

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[calvindog]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3768486997/" title="1909 T.T.T. Cigarettes T204 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2425/3768486997_5ee3a0d422_o.jpg" width="900" height="730" alt="1909 T.T.T. Cigarettes T204" /></a>

[Jacklitsch]

Got outbid on the Donlin TTT that closed earlier this week on ebay.

Nice card!!

[calvindog]

Jim, congrats on the Donlin pickup. I'm amazed at how cheap the card went (as well as how cheap I bought mine for). It's such a rare card with the TTT back.

[cfc1909]

thanks Jeff-not really sure what they are worth. I never see them for auction.

Sorry Steve-I called my daughter on the way home from fishing and got her to bid for me-it ended around 4pm eastern.

[bcornell]

This will always be my favorite set. I bought 10 of them back in the late 80's from Bob Mazzeo at different MA shows. Anyone remember him?

For those who like "investments", the prices then were about $100 or so for a decent common. Adjusted for inflation, I'm in the red on the ones I bought 20+ years ago. I suspect this trend is true of many cards.

They were ridiculously scare then and while the last couple of years have been lean, they're much easier to find. I never expected to be just 2 short of finishing a complete set. Thank you, modern technology.


Bill

[sox1903wschamp]

I bought 10 of them back in the late 80's from Bob Mazzeo at different MA shows. Anyone remember him?




I do remember Bob and had some good dealings with him. Love this set and consider the T.T.T backs undervalued although I am not a back guy...

[jerrys]

this will always be my favorite set. I bought 10 of them back in the late 80's from bob mazzeo at different ma shows. Anyone remember him?
Bill

1997

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[bcornell]

That's the man, Jim! Haven't heard hide nor hair of Bob M. in 15+ yrs. That Ferris Wheel in the background means we can place him in Cleveland in 1997... I heard from another forum poster that he was in S. America, or heading that way, or alleged to have disappeared there, not too long ago.

He used to have a hoard of vintage cards back when almost no one else did.


Bill

[terjung]

I was thinking Cleveland too. Pretty safe bet.

[jerrys]

Bill,

I knew I wouldn't have to identify the location of where I took the picture of Bob. Bob was quite active in collecting from the mid-1980s and through the 1990s as I recall. He was my main competitor for SL Cabinets during that time. Then came two more gentlemen, Tom B. and Scott B., to increase the competition. Seems that some people just get in the act when you're trying to corner the market!

It's been many years since Bob sold his collection, got divorced, and left the country. Exactly where he went and where he might be today I don't have a clue.





http://home.roadrunner.com/~jspillman/webbb.htm

[bcornell]

For those scoring at home...

The full T204 set on REA was at $47.5K at 1am last night after 12 hours of inactivity, when someone upped it to $60K ($70.5 with the vig), where it closed. That's a very healthy $578 per card for a set that included a majority of cards in VG or less. This was the same set that sold for $45K in 2007.

The PSA 8 Donlin with the (ahem) fat borders and the PSA 5 Burkett also did well. Burkett is now priced roughly around the same as Plank, based on the past year's results.


Bill